Re: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

2007-03-03 Thread sean
Hi Ian,

   sorry for the late reply. I've been so busy. I personally recomend
NOT worrying about design patterns and such. Instead, go for a good AS2
book which will, as a matter of course lead you through the principals
of good Object Oriented design and development. The principals are
truly very simple but there tends to be a belief that they are
attainable only by years of study and self abuse. This is entirely
untrue. If you simply want to learn OO design and programming then I
would recommend any of the myriad of excellent OO or Java for beginners
books as these are truely excellent. If, however, you want to learn
your OOD and OOP on actionscript itself (as this is obviously more
relevant) then I have to recomend New Riders' Object Oriented
Programming in Actionscript 2.0. I found this an invaluable reference.
It's worth mentioning at this point that AS 3.0 will be more stricly
typed (see your OO book for that reference) and as such more of a
strict OO language. As such you'd be well advised to get a decent AS 3
book once you've got the principals of OO in AS 2 under your belt. FoE
are bringing out a Foundation AS3 book which is aimed at giving
designers and new developers a better handle on AS3.

Good luck mate
Sean McSharry
www.flashcoder.net/blog


 Hi,
   Can anyone recommend a good book to teach designers who know a bit
 of AS1 scripting up to speed with AS2? I've been asked for a
 recommendation and it's been so long since I bought a book (or was
 scripting AS1!), I'm at a loss to pick out one from the myriad that a
 Google search brings up.

 Cheers,
Ian
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Re: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

2007-03-01 Thread Ian Thomas

On 2/28/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have found the OOP aspects of AS2 learnable only by repeated
experience - experimenting, trying again, reading, trying some more,
etc.  The syntax of AS2 is the easy part - the design pattern is what
takes time to learn.  Focus on the syntax of AS2 (class strucutre,
public/private/static, typecasting) and then the actual implementation
of practical use just takes practice.


Jason,
  Thanks for the advice. I think the basic issue is that I'm going to
have to find time to run some training courses here; I was hoping to
find an introductory book to ease my pain and at least give them the
basics. Ah well. :-)

Ian
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RE: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

2007-02-28 Thread Merrill, Jason
Friends of Ed's Object Oriented Actionscript is great.  Moock's AS2 is
good too.

Jason Merrill
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Hi,
  Can anyone recommend a good book to teach designers who 
know a bit of AS1 scripting up to speed with AS2? I've been 
asked for a recommendation and it's been so long since I 
bought a book (or was scripting AS1!), I'm at a loss to pick 
out one from the myriad that a Google search brings up.

Cheers,
   Ian
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Re: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

2007-02-28 Thread Ian Thomas

Thanks Jason,
  I've got Moock's book, and having had a quick skim, I think it's
too advanced for the person in question who's only ever done very
basic scripting; I was looking for something simpler. Would the FoE
book suit, do you think?

Cheers,
  Ian

On 2/28/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Friends of Ed's Object Oriented Actionscript is great.  Moock's AS2 is
good too.

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RE: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

2007-02-28 Thread Merrill, Jason
Yes - the Friends of Ed book is probably better, but if you don't have a
good enough handle on AS 1, you'll be even more confused by AS 2. At
some point, the person in question just needs to jump off the dock and
start swimming. :)

I have found the OOP aspects of AS2 learnable only by repeated
experience - experimenting, trying again, reading, trying some more,
etc.  The syntax of AS2 is the easy part - the design pattern is what
takes time to learn.  Focus on the syntax of AS2 (class strucutre,
public/private/static, typecasting) and then the actual implementation
of practical use just takes practice. 

Jason Merrill
Bank of America  
Global Technology  Operations
Learning  Leadership Development 
eTools  Multimedia Team


 

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Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Beginners/Designers Actionscript

Thanks Jason,
   I've got Moock's book, and having had a quick skim, I 
think it's too advanced for the person in question who's only 
ever done very basic scripting; I was looking for something 
simpler. Would the FoE book suit, do you think?

Cheers,
   Ian

On 2/28/07, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Friends of Ed's Object Oriented Actionscript is great.  
Moock's AS2 is 
 good too.
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