Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
That's USD, right? $100,000 = £49,704.66 = € 73,462.297 Alias On 18/04/07, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked 2007/4/18, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's USD, right? $100,000 = £49,704.66 = € 73,462.297 Alias On 18/04/07, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Andrés González Aragón Desarrollador Multimedia http://www.quantium.com.mx ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
not true, you can enjoy the sun of mexico ;) On 4/18/07, Andrés González Aragón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked 2007/4/18, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's USD, right? $100,000 = £49,704.66 = € 73,462.297 Alias On 18/04/07, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Andrés González Aragón Desarrollador Multimedia http://www.quantium.com.mx ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Andrés, it ain't so bad. Consider the cost of living in different US cities. San Fran is one of the most expensive. Here's a link to a cost of living table: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0883960.html -Original Message- From: Andrés González Aragón [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:14 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked 2007/4/18, Alias(tm) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's USD, right? $100,000 = £49,704.66 = EUR 73,462.297 Alias On 18/04/07, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Andrés González Aragón Desarrollador Multimedia http://www.quantium.com.mx ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
And exploitation by multinationals! On 18/04/07, Tom Huynen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not true, you can enjoy the sun of mexico ;) On 4/18/07, Andrés González Aragón [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked 2007/4/18, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED]: That's USD, right? $100,000 = £49,704.66 = € 73,462.297 Alias On 18/04/07, Weyert de Boer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Andrés González Aragón Desarrollador Multimedia http://www.quantium.com.mx ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked Similar values apply to our market here (in Brazil). But you have to take the cost of living of the country/city/state into consideration. I'm not sure how's that on Mexico, but I bet it's cheaper than, say, living in downtown NYC... It's not like someone turns filthy rich just because of a location change. Different places, different scales. Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
this email would be my script that I would hand and read to your boss. It looks like a job description. If you fill these, then hand it to him and say I do this, we need to adjust my pay to compensate me for this work Looks good to me On 4/16/07, Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm in Oklahoma City, so it's a bit harder sometimes for me to gauge how much compensation I should receive. If anyone has any comments on the following information, please let me know. I won't disclose my exact salary, but you can email me offlist if you're curious. My title is Application Developer, but I am the only person here (and always have been) that knows the difference between a boolean and a string. I am the only technical person and I often take on experienced IT-related roles such as web server configuration, shell scripting, server monitoring/management, etc (mostly Unix-based, some Windows 2000). I architect and build all backend solutions (PHP, mySQL, CF, RoR, J2EE) and desktop solutions (Cocoa, Java, Flash/mProjector). I have extensive knowledge of media streaming and FCS/FMS application development. I also architect all web-based applications and provide diagrams and documentation for them, after meeting with clients or upper management directly to translate business objectives into software tools. I then sit down and do ALL of the development work. I work with one designer but I do all UI/interactivity design. I also manage a small team of interactive designers and producers. My title does not reflect these duties, but it is difficult to communicate to my boss what I do. I am getting roughly what a junior Actionscript developer would make, and I'm fed up. There are also no stock options, no profit sharing, no retirement (401K), no vision nor dental. We get a very simple medical insurance plan. I am looking for advice on this matter. Do I expect too much if I demand at least $90K a year? How do I better inform management as to what I actually do on a daily basis? If I'm right in thinking that I'm getting screwed, is anyone hiring? ;) Cheers! -- Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Company Undisclosed) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- [ JPG ] ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Yeah, if you wanna buy a house in London you're looking at £200k - £300k minimum... So it all evens out... Alias On 18/04/07, Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked Similar values apply to our market here (in Brazil). But you have to take the cost of living of the country/city/state into consideration. I'm not sure how's that on Mexico, but I bet it's cheaper than, say, living in downtown NYC... It's not like someone turns filthy rich just because of a location change. Different places, different scales. Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Exactly, the cost of living here in SF is insane. A decent flat in the city will cost you a million flat. I'm in my 30s and still renting. Again, the 100k - 120k figure I tossed out is for someone who has demonstrated expertise in database programming and administration, business logic layers, and presentation. Basically I'm describing an ace for an entire technology stack...what some folks call a system architect. There are not too many of these people around. A good software developer who, for example, can screw together nice servlets but would flail miserably as a db admin or flash developer will prolly score between 75k and 90k. - k On 4/18/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, if you wanna buy a house in London you're looking at £200k - £300k minimum... So it all evens out... Alias On 18/04/07, Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked Similar values apply to our market here (in Brazil). But you have to take the cost of living of the country/city/state into consideration. I'm not sure how's that on Mexico, but I bet it's cheaper than, say, living in downtown NYC... It's not like someone turns filthy rich just because of a location change. Different places, different scales. Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
The main trouble I'm running into when trying to prove what I do here is that we have almost NO organization in our company and no clear path to any given team or individual. A good example is that anyone (salesperson, PR guy, creative director, client) can come to ANYONE in my department and request work. Then that person in my dept requests a project code from a person in Switzerland who has no contact with us whatsoever, and then that person is the 'owner' of the project and is responsible for seeing it through. If the graphic designer learns about a highly technical project from a client, he will technically own it, but I will of course run it. Since my boss does little to no due diligence into what the team is doing (he just expects everything to be done when it's supposed to be done) then he has no idea what is going on behind the scenes. He just sees that a project either gets done on time or it doesn't, and since I am the most technical, I am blamed for failures yet not rewarded for successes (the boss actually takes credit for successes after I sit down with him for hours and explain the architecture and selling points of any given system.) We have a serious management failure, lack of management all together, and so the people making the world go around will never be recognized for what we do. Until we leave. The only reason I'm here at this point is due to my significant investment in this company. It is dysfunctional from the top down, but there are some amazing ideas and some amazing people in this organization (global company). I've decided that I am going to follow through with the current project I'm driving, and if things do not change a great deal afterward, I will take another job and make things happen there. There is so much information that I could divulge in testament to the extreme dysfunctionality, but that would be neither wise nor effective use of my time. Hope this gives some insight into how much a corporate structure/lack of structure affects my/your compensation, confidence, earning ability, growth potential, etc. Cheers! On 4/18/07, Kelly Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Exactly, the cost of living here in SF is insane. A decent flat in the city will cost you a million flat. I'm in my 30s and still renting. Again, the 100k - 120k figure I tossed out is for someone who has demonstrated expertise in database programming and administration, business logic layers, and presentation. Basically I'm describing an ace for an entire technology stack...what some folks call a system architect. There are not too many of these people around. A good software developer who, for example, can screw together nice servlets but would flail miserably as a db admin or flash developer will prolly score between 75k and 90k. - k On 4/18/07, Alias™ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, if you wanna buy a house in London you're looking at £200k - £300k minimum... So it all evens out... Alias On 18/04/07, Zeh Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here in México a Senior with these skills. U$15k-U$20k at year. A game developement manager (Flash Guru) like me and others 6 people in the country. U$32k-U$37k at year :.( We are fucked Similar values apply to our market here (in Brazil). But you have to take the cost of living of the country/city/state into consideration. I'm not sure how's that on Mexico, but I bet it's cheaper than, say, living in downtown NYC... It's not like someone turns filthy rich just because of a location change. Different places, different scales. Zeh ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
I doubt that the management structure of your global company is going to change any time soon. If you are frustrated, then it sounds like you should find another gig, especially if want a raise but are unable to communicate to your boss what it is that you do. I find that it's easier to bump up my rate with new clients than to explain to old clients why they should be paying me more for the same work, anyway. I have no particular insight into the job market in your region, but I'd be surprised to hear of someone getting a 90K salary for flash development in Oklahoma. Jason - Original Message - From: Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions The main trouble I'm running into when trying to prove what I do here is that we have almost NO organization in our company and no clear path to any given team or individual. A good example is that anyone (salesperson, PR guy, creative director, client) can come to ANYONE in my department and request work. Then that person in my dept requests a project code from a person in Switzerland who has no contact with us whatsoever, and then that person is the 'owner' of the project and is responsible for seeing it through. If the graphic designer learns about a highly technical project from a client, he will technically own it, but I will of course run it. Since my boss does little to no due diligence into what the team is doing (he just expects everything to be done when it's supposed to be done) then he has no idea what is going on behind the scenes. He just sees that a project either gets done on time or it doesn't, and since I am the most technical, I am blamed for failures yet not rewarded for successes (the boss actually takes credit for successes after I sit down with him for hours and explain the architecture and selling points of any given system.) We have a serious management failure, lack of management all together, and so the people making the world go around will never be recognized for what we do. Until we leave. The only reason I'm here at this point is due to my significant investment in this company. It is dysfunctional from the top down, but there are some amazing ideas and some amazing people in this organization (global company). I've decided that I am going to follow through with the current project I'm driving, and if things do not change a great deal afterward, I will take another job and make things happen there. There is so much information that I could divulge in testament to the extreme dysfunctionality, but that would be neither wise nor effective use of my time. Hope this gives some insight into how much a corporate structure/lack of structure affects my/your compensation, confidence, earning ability, growth potential, etc. Cheers! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
What I do is hardly Flash development...that's one small piece of the pie. :) But you're right on the rest of it. If nothing else, I'm learning a lot here about coming up with creative ways to make things work against all odds at a very high level. Cheers On 4/18/07, Jason Rayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I doubt that the management structure of your global company is going to change any time soon. If you are frustrated, then it sounds like you should find another gig, especially if want a raise but are unable to communicate to your boss what it is that you do. I find that it's easier to bump up my rate with new clients than to explain to old clients why they should be paying me more for the same work, anyway. I have no particular insight into the job market in your region, but I'd be surprised to hear of someone getting a 90K salary for flash development in Oklahoma. Jason - Original Message - From: Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions The main trouble I'm running into when trying to prove what I do here is that we have almost NO organization in our company and no clear path to any given team or individual. A good example is that anyone (salesperson, PR guy, creative director, client) can come to ANYONE in my department and request work. Then that person in my dept requests a project code from a person in Switzerland who has no contact with us whatsoever, and then that person is the 'owner' of the project and is responsible for seeing it through. If the graphic designer learns about a highly technical project from a client, he will technically own it, but I will of course run it. Since my boss does little to no due diligence into what the team is doing (he just expects everything to be done when it's supposed to be done) then he has no idea what is going on behind the scenes. He just sees that a project either gets done on time or it doesn't, and since I am the most technical, I am blamed for failures yet not rewarded for successes (the boss actually takes credit for successes after I sit down with him for hours and explain the architecture and selling points of any given system.) We have a serious management failure, lack of management all together, and so the people making the world go around will never be recognized for what we do. Until we leave. The only reason I'm here at this point is due to my significant investment in this company. It is dysfunctional from the top down, but there are some amazing ideas and some amazing people in this organization (global company). I've decided that I am going to follow through with the current project I'm driving, and if things do not change a great deal afterward, I will take another job and make things happen there. There is so much information that I could divulge in testament to the extreme dysfunctionality, but that would be neither wise nor effective use of my time. Hope this gives some insight into how much a corporate structure/lack of structure affects my/your compensation, confidence, earning ability, growth potential, etc. Cheers! ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- Jordan Snyder Applications Developer Image Action LLC http://www.imageaction.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
Here in the SF Bay Area, the skillset you describe above would net you between 100 - 120k a year. Bosses love people who can do database, buisness logic, AND presentation work. Don't settle. - k On 4/16/07, Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm in Oklahoma City, so it's a bit harder sometimes for me to gauge how much compensation I should receive. If anyone has any comments on the following information, please let me know. I won't disclose my exact salary, but you can email me offlist if you're curious. My title is Application Developer, but I am the only person here (and always have been) that knows the difference between a boolean and a string. I am the only technical person and I often take on experienced IT-related roles such as web server configuration, shell scripting, server monitoring/management, etc (mostly Unix-based, some Windows 2000). I architect and build all backend solutions (PHP, mySQL, CF, RoR, J2EE) and desktop solutions (Cocoa, Java, Flash/mProjector). I have extensive knowledge of media streaming and FCS/FMS application development. I also architect all web-based applications and provide diagrams and documentation for them, after meeting with clients or upper management directly to translate business objectives into software tools. I then sit down and do ALL of the development work. I work with one designer but I do all UI/interactivity design. I also manage a small team of interactive designers and producers. My title does not reflect these duties, but it is difficult to communicate to my boss what I do. I am getting roughly what a junior Actionscript developer would make, and I'm fed up. There are also no stock options, no profit sharing, no retirement (401K), no vision nor dental. We get a very simple medical insurance plan. I am looking for advice on this matter. Do I expect too much if I demand at least $90K a year? How do I better inform management as to what I actually do on a daily basis? If I'm right in thinking that I'm getting screwed, is anyone hiring? ;) Cheers! -- Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Company Undisclosed) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
More orientated to designers front end developers - but still interesting: AIGA|Aquent Salary Survey http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/salary-survey -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Smith Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:37 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions Here in the SF Bay Area, the skillset you describe above would net you between 100 - 120k a year. Bosses love people who can do database, buisness logic, AND presentation work. Don't settle. - k On 4/16/07, Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I'm in Oklahoma City, so it's a bit harder sometimes for me to gauge how much compensation I should receive. If anyone has any comments on the following information, please let me know. I won't disclose my exact salary, but you can email me offlist if you're curious. My title is Application Developer, but I am the only person here (and always have been) that knows the difference between a boolean and a string. I am the only technical person and I often take on experienced IT-related roles such as web server configuration, shell scripting, server monitoring/management, etc (mostly Unix-based, some Windows 2000). I architect and build all backend solutions (PHP, mySQL, CF, RoR, J2EE) and desktop solutions (Cocoa, Java, Flash/mProjector). I have extensive knowledge of media streaming and FCS/FMS application development. I also architect all web-based applications and provide diagrams and documentation for them, after meeting with clients or upper management directly to translate business objectives into software tools. I then sit down and do ALL of the development work. I work with one designer but I do all UI/interactivity design. I also manage a small team of interactive designers and producers. My title does not reflect these duties, but it is difficult to communicate to my boss what I do. I am getting roughly what a junior Actionscript developer would make, and I'm fed up. There are also no stock options, no profit sharing, no retirement (401K), no vision nor dental. We get a very simple medical insurance plan. I am looking for advice on this matter. Do I expect too much if I demand at least $90K a year? How do I better inform management as to what I actually do on a daily basis? If I'm right in thinking that I'm getting screwed, is anyone hiring? ;) Cheers! -- Jordan Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Company Undisclosed) ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Salary Questions
100-120K nice... ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
