Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-10 Thread Gabriel
I am actually writing the eps in windows with the adobe's driver, and it 
works fine...I would like to do the same in linux, any idea?, do you 
know if ghostscript could be use as a printer to do the output to an eps?...


GaB


Ron Wheeler wrote:

Ghostscript.
Adobe's postscript printer
You can write the eps manually (define some useful macros and the 
actual generation becomes easy)

Probably XSLT would do the job as well.

It really depends on what you want to do with the eps files and 
whether it is important to use eps at every step.


If you have some control over the client side it gets easier.
Otherwise you need to send data to the server and let the server 
create a new eps.


Where do the eps files get used?

ROn

Gabriel wrote:
I've already said what I need to do, pick a premade draw, and allow 
the user to change the blanks to color, like in a paint app for kids, 
and then export this to an eps, that simple is the idea.


The queries must be received by a server ( a custom app?), or I'm 
missing something...

You said, a lot of tools to create outputs, to eps? can you name one?


thanks
GaB





Ron Wheeler wrote:

Who is receiving the queries?
This sounds like a server side issue.
There are lots of tools to create output on a server.
Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each 
print or is the color changed once and requested from a server.


It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want 
to do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the 
next 4 or 5 weeks.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:

hi Ron,
I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the 
server, and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to 
receive a lot of queries for printing with an automated app...any 
idea?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create 
the file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the 
output to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should 
be able to print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I 
see where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like 
identify each shape to apply different color), but if you want, 
forget the eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided 
in movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the 
color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings 
already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the 
EPS files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they 
are constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full 
of crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if 
that is what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs 
and writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG 
without the XML. You can create your own macros to make the 
process easier - which is where all of the crap comes from in an 
EPS file created by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). 
Make a Hello World document and save it. It will be a lot 
longer than 11 characters but you will find Hello World in 
there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file 
that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript 
Printer and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have 
had a life then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to 
tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my 
already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg 
an then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the 
drawings pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server 
and use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file 
that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector 
drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It 
is also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user 
activity on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to 
see what is inside.



Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-09 Thread Gabriel
I've already said what I need to do, pick a premade draw, and allow the 
user to change the blanks to color, like in a paint app for kids, and 
then export this to an eps, that simple is the idea.


The queries must be received by a server ( a custom app?), or I'm 
missing something...

You said, a lot of tools to create outputs, to eps? can you name one?


thanks
GaB





Ron Wheeler wrote:

Who is receiving the queries?
This sounds like a server side issue.
There are lots of tools to create output on a server.
Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each print 
or is the color changed once and requested from a server.


It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want to 
do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the next 4 
or 5 weeks.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:

hi Ron,
I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, 
and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot of 
queries for printing with an automated app...any idea?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create 
the file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output 
to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able 
to print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see 
where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify 
each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the 
eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the 
color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings 
already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the 
EPS files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are 
constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of 
crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that 
is what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and 
writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the 
XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - 
which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created 
by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World 
document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters 
but you will find Hello World in there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file 
that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer 
and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life 
then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my 
already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an 
then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the 
drawings pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server 
and use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file 
that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector 
drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is 
also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity 
on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to 
see what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps 
(but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not 
really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it 
on the server side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever 
icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able 
generate this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting 
input to various output formats.


Let me know what you think 

Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-09 Thread Ron Wheeler

Ghostscript.
Adobe's postscript printer
You can write the eps manually (define some useful macros and the actual 
generation becomes easy)

Probably XSLT would do the job as well.

It really depends on what you want to do with the eps files and whether 
it is important to use eps at every step.


If you have some control over the client side it gets easier.
Otherwise you need to send data to the server and let the server create 
a new eps.


Where do the eps files get used?

ROn

Gabriel wrote:
I've already said what I need to do, pick a premade draw, and allow 
the user to change the blanks to color, like in a paint app for kids, 
and then export this to an eps, that simple is the idea.


The queries must be received by a server ( a custom app?), or I'm 
missing something...

You said, a lot of tools to create outputs, to eps? can you name one?


thanks
GaB





Ron Wheeler wrote:

Who is receiving the queries?
This sounds like a server side issue.
There are lots of tools to create output on a server.
Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each print 
or is the color changed once and requested from a server.


It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want 
to do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the 
next 4 or 5 weeks.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:

hi Ron,
I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, 
and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot 
of queries for printing with an automated app...any idea?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create 
the file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output 
to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able 
to print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I 
see where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like 
identify each shape to apply different color), but if you want, 
forget the eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the 
color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings 
already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the 
EPS files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they 
are constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full 
of crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if 
that is what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs 
and writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG 
without the XML. You can create your own macros to make the 
process easier - which is where all of the crap comes from in an 
EPS file created by MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). 
Make a Hello World document and save it. It will be a lot 
longer than 11 characters but you will find Hello World in 
there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file 
that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript 
Printer and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have 
had a life then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to 
tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my 
already drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an 
then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the 
drawings pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server 
and use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file 
that can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector 
drawing format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is 
also relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity 
on the Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to 
see what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps 
(but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not 
really to export the image created by the user, but recreate 
it on the server side, based on a few 

Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-07 Thread Ron Wheeler

Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output to 
file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able to 
print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see 
where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify each 
shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the color 
of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already 
exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS 
files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are 
constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of 
crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is 
what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and 
writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the 
XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - 
which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by 
MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World 
document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but 
you will find Hello World in there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file that 
created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer and let 
it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life then, I 
guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already 
drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings 
pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and 
use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that 
can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing 
format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also 
relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the 
Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see 
what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but 
the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to 
export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the 
server side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon 
and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able 
generate this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input 
to various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to 
skin this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics 
the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to 
this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, 
draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just 
transforming what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. 
What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS 
for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a 
free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* 
(?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with 
origin in the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point 
me to some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps


Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-07 Thread Gabriel

hi Ron,
I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, and 
it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot of 
queries for printing with an automated app...any idea?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the 
file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output to 
file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able to 
print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see 
where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify 
each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps 
input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the 
color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already 
exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS 
files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are 
constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of 
crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is 
what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and 
writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the 
XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - 
which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by 
MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World 
document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but 
you will find Hello World in there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file 
that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer 
and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life 
then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already 
drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the 
drawings pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and 
use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that 
can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing 
format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also 
relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the 
Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see 
what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps 
(but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really 
to export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the 
server side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever 
icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able 
generate this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting 
input to various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to 
skin this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics 
the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to 
this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, 
draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just 
transforming what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. 
What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about 
EPS for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say 
a free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server 
printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with 
origin in the client machine.
You was 

Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-07 Thread Ron Wheeler

Who is receiving the queries?
This sounds like a server side issue.
There are lots of tools to create output on a server.
Why are people changing the colors. Does this get done for each print or 
is the color changed once and requested from a server.


It might save a lot of time if you actually described what you want to 
do in enough detail so we can get to the right solution in the next 4 or 
5 weeks.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:

hi Ron,
I already have it done this way. A postscript printer in the server, 
and it works like a charm. But the problem is how to receive a lot of 
queries for printing with an automated app...any idea?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Can you not just use a postscript printer under windows to create the 
file?
If you download the Adobe generic PostScript driver, set the output 
to file and to be eps rather than PostScript and you should be able 
to print your Flash to eps.


Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see 
where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify 
each shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the 
eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the 
color of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings 
already exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the 
EPS files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are 
constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of 
crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that 
is what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and 
writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the 
XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - 
which is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by 
MS-Word (to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World 
document and save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters 
but you will find Hello World in there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file 
that created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer 
and let it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life 
then, I guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already 
drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save 
it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the 
drawings pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server 
and use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that 
can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing 
format that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also 
relatively easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the 
Flash side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see 
what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps 
(but the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not 
really to export the image created by the user, but recreate it 
on the server side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever 
icon and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able 
generate this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting 
input to various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to 
skin this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics 
the steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to 
this point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, 
draw to here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by 
just transforming what you 

Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-06 Thread Gabriel

Ok, I'll try to put it simple.

I have researched about the eps, I opened it, changed it, and I see 
where are the paremeters I need with a few problems(like identify each 
shape to apply different color), but if you want, forget the eps input.


The point is:
1 - I Have a swf with a drawing inside and 2,3,4 colors divided in 
movieclips by color.
2 - I need to open this swf with my app, let the user change the color 
of each mc (at this point, everything is fine)

3 - give the user an eps with the result.

end of workflow.

simple uh? :P

GaB.





Ron Wheeler wrote:

I am having trouble figuring out the flow.

What does the Flash application actually do? If the drawings already 
exist on the server and have to end up on the server,...
What does Flash do with the EPS file? Why EPS at all? How do the EPS 
files get created.

What do you want to do with the resulting files?

Have you edited an eps file with a text editor to see how they are 
constructed? They can include vectors and raster images.
Depending on the program used to create the EPS, it can be full of 
crap and unused macros which make them hard to pick apart if that is 
what you want to do.
You can certainly create eps files by tracking the user inputs and 
writing the PostScript to a file. It is a bit like SVG without the 
XML. You can create your own macros to make the process easier - which 
is where all of the crap comes from in an EPS file created by MS-Word 
(to pick on one vendor unfairly). Make a Hello World document and 
save it. It will be a lot longer than 11 characters but you will find 
Hello World in there somewhere.
In the early days of DOS, I wrote a little short PostScript file that 
created fractal images if you sent it to a Postscript Printer and let 
it run all night. Looking back I must not have had a life then, I 
guess - the kids were small and we were to tired to go out.



Ron

Gabriel wrote:
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already 
drawn eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings 
pre made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and 
use XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash 
program later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that 
can be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format 
that can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively 
easy to construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash 
side(move, draw, draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see 
what is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but 
the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to 
export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server 
side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon 
and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate 
this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input 
to various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to 
skin this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the 
steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this 
point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to 
here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just 
transforming what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. 
What do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS 
for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a 
free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin 
in the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point 
me to some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from 
it...any

idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:
 

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:
 

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to 

Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-05 Thread Gabriel
Ok, sounds good, but I don't see clearly how to convert my already drawn 
eps/whatever into commands so can rewrite a svg an then save it.


I can make instructions for writing the svg, but I have the drawings pre 
made.


GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use 
XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program 
later

d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can 
be transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that 
can be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to 
construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, 
draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what 
is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but 
the only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to 
export the image created by the user, but recreate it on the server 
side, based on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon 
and apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate 
this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to 
various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin 
this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the 
steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this 
point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to 
here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just 
transforming what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What 
do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a 
free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin 
in the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me 
to some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from 
it...any

idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:
 

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:
  

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side 
a swf

to eps?.


cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-04 Thread Ron Wheeler
You can send an XML file of drawing instructions to the server and use 
XSLT to do anything that you want.

a) You can convert it to SVG or EPS.
b) You can convert it to your own vector format
c) You can hold onto it as an XML and redraw it in your Flash program later
d) You can convert it to a raster image
e) You can do all of the above and more.

SVG is the most flexible format since it is both an XML file that can be 
transformed using XSLT and a recognized vector drawing format that can 
be edited using drawing programs. It is also relatively easy to 
construct by tracking the user activity on the Flash side(move, draw, 
draw, draw,move, draw...)


Check the Batik site and open an SVG file in a text editor to see what 
is inside.


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the 
only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the 
image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based 
on a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and 
apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate 
this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to 
various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin 
this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the 
steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this 
point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to 
here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming 
what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What 
do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a 
free drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in 
the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me 
to some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from 
it...any

idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:
 

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:
   

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a 
swf

to eps?.


cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-03 Thread Gabriel
Hey Ron...what I want to do is generate content in client side flash, 
pass it to the server (php or whatever) print this content to an eps, 
and return the eps to the client.



thanks


Ron Wheeler wrote:

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf 
to eps?.



cheers,
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-03 Thread Gabriel
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free 
drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in the 
client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me to 
some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any
idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:


What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:
  

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf
to eps?.


cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-03 Thread Ron Wheeler
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate this 
on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to 
various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin this 
cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's interactions, 
SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the steps that the user 
does (start here, draw to here, draw to this point, draw to next point, 
etc. finish here; move to here, draw to here, etc.) so you may be able 
to create the SVG by just transforming what you are already doing on the 
screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What do 
you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free 
drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in 
the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me to 
some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any
idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:
   

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:
 

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf
to eps?.


cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-03 Thread Gabriel
What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the 
only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the 
image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on 
a few parameters.

I can live without the drawing part.

PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and 
apply some changes (color, scale or so)?


thanks
GaB



Ron Wheeler wrote:
Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate 
this on the client without the server.


What about PDF.

Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to 
various output formats.


Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin 
this cat.
How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's 
interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the 
steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this 
point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to 
here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming 
what you are already doing on the screen.
The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What 
do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you?


Ron


Gabriel wrote:
I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free 
drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).


The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in 
the client machine.
You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me 
to some of them?


thanks

GaB.



David Rorex wrote:

How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from 
it...any

idea?


Ron Wheeler wrote:
  

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:


Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf
to eps?.


cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-04-03 Thread David Rorex
Ok, let me get this straight:
You don't want to convert a .swf file into a .eps file. You want to export
data generated from within your .swf file into a .eps file?

If it is just vector images you want to export, than I would say go with
SVG, it's XML based, and most vector image tools will read in SVG. There are
various free tools which will let you convert SVG into a raster image if you
need.

---

If you want to do PDF, search for PHP or ASP (depending on your server
scripting language) PDF libraries. There are several out there, that will
let you do something like:

$pdf = new PDF(); // create a new PDF
$pdf-drawLine(x1,y1,x2,y2); // draw a line on the PDF...the data is passed
in from your swf
$pdf-writeFile(output.pdf); // save out a .pdf file.

-David R

On 4/3/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What I need is to import the drawing, that's why I choose eps (but the
 only real need is that it must be vectorial), Not really to export the
 image created by the user, but recreate it on the server side, based on
 a few parameters.
 I can live without the drawing part.

 PDF would be a possibility, but can I export from swf 2 pdf??

 about FOP, It could be useful but how I load the eps/whatever icon and
 apply some changes (color, scale or so)?

 thanks
 GaB



 Ron Wheeler wrote:
  Have you looked at SVG as an alternative? You may be able generate
  this on the client without the server.
 
  What about PDF.
 
  Have a look at Apache's FOP as a server tool for converting input to
  various output formats.
 
  Let me know what you think of these. There may be more ways to skin
  this cat.
  How are the drawings made? If you are capturing the user's
  interactions, SVG might be pretty easy since it sort of mimics the
  steps that the user does (start here, draw to here, draw to this
  point, draw to next point, etc. finish here; move to here, draw to
  here, etc.) so you may be able to create the SVG by just transforming
  what you are already doing on the screen.
  The Batik package or Adobe SVG lets you work with SVG drawings. What
  do you want to do with the output- what is magical about EPS for you?
 
  Ron
 
 
  Gabriel wrote:
  I generate the content of the swf on the client app, let's say a free
  drawing, then I want to print it to the *server printer* (?).
 
  The point is...I need an eps from a generated content with origin in
  the client machine.
  You was talking about many free printer drivers, can you point me
  to some of them?
 
  thanks
 
  GaB.
 
 
 
  David Rorex wrote:
  How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
  something-swf-eps
  you can do:
  something-swf
  something-eps
 
  -David R
 
  On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from
  it...any
  idea?
 
 
  Ron Wheeler wrote:
 
  What exactly do you want to do?
 
  Ron
 
  Gabriel wrote:
 
  Hi everybody...
 
  anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a
 swf
  to eps?.
 
 
  cheers,
  GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-03-31 Thread David Rorex
Without know exactly what you want to do, you might be able to rig something
up using a swf wrapper of some sort (like zinc) which will load the swf,
then trigger a print, then use one of the many free printer drivers which
output .ps files

-David R

On 3/30/06, Ron Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What exactly do you want to do?

 Ron

 Gabriel wrote:
  Hi everybody...
 
  anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf
  to eps?.
 


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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-03-31 Thread Gabriel
I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any 
idea?



Ron Wheeler wrote:

What exactly do you want to do?

Ron

Gabriel wrote:

Hi everybody...

anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf 
to eps?.



cheers,
GaB
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Re: [Flashcoders] converting/printing swf to eps

2006-03-31 Thread David Rorex
How are the swf's generated in the first place? Instead of doing
something-swf-eps
you can do:
something-swf
something-eps

-David R

On 3/30/06, Gabriel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I save a swf to the server, and I need to retrieve an eps from it...any
 idea?


 Ron Wheeler wrote:
  What exactly do you want to do?
 
  Ron
 
  Gabriel wrote:
  Hi everybody...
 
  anybody knows a solution to convert/print from the server side a swf
  to eps?.
 
 
  cheers,
  GaB
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