Re: [flexcoders] Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

2009-09-23 Thread b_productiv2000
You've got an example in Tour de Flex named detecting user 
presence, it is place in the menu AIR capabilities  coding 
technique.

I don't know if it will serve you but when i read your message i 
remember this demo.

Alban

Battershall, Jeff a écrit :
 
 
 In the AIR app I’m building, if the user leaves the app running for 
 without interaction, the network times out and the user gets 
 ChannelCall.Failed error when they next attempt to interact with the 
 application.
 
  
 
 What’s the best way to listen for a timeout? On the ChannelSet? Or to 
 keep the network connection alive by periodic requests?
 
  
 
 Jeff Battershall




[flexcoders] Actionscript Questions

2009-09-23 Thread SvenM
I come from a C++ background and was wondering if anyone knew the following:

Does Actionscript have the equivalent of the enum operator where I can define 
my own variable types for ease of coding?

Does Actionscript support overloaded constructors?



[flexcoders] Loading oversized images in AS3

2009-09-23 Thread cf.ende
Hi,

I try to load a image file (.jpg) in my Air application. The image resolution 
in much larger than the maximum value of 16 mega pixel. 
I know that in AS3 I cannot handle this. 

My problem is: How to act on such a problem - no error is thrown and it has 
nothing to do with the filesize.

My code:

var f:File=_list[0] as File;
var imageLoader:Loader = new Loader();
imageLoader.contentLoaderInfo.addEventListener(Event.COMPLETE,onLoadImage); 

imageLoader.contentLoaderInfo.addEventListener(IOErrorEvent.IO_ERROR,onErrorLoadingImage);
imageLoader.load(new URLRequest(f.url));

There will be no IOError or complete event if the resolution of the image in 
larger than 16 MPixel.

Can anyone help me out??

Thanks in advance.

CFE




[flexcoders] Re: Actionscript Questions

2009-09-23 Thread valdhor
Actionscript 3 does not support either of these constructs natively.

However, there are ways to implement them.

These links should give you some insight:

http://blog.petermolgaard.com/2008/11/02/actionscript-3-enums/
http://flexblog.faratasystems.com/?p=100

This is also a good insight into Actionscript 3 for C++ programmers:

http://blogs.adobe.com/kiwi/2006/05/as3_language_101_for_cc_coders_1.html


HTH



Steve


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, SvenM smy...@... wrote:

 I come from a C++ background and was wondering if anyone knew the following:
 
 Does Actionscript have the equivalent of the enum operator where I can define 
 my own variable types for ease of coding?
 
 Does Actionscript support overloaded constructors?





RE: [flexcoders] Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

2009-09-23 Thread Battershall, Jeff
Thanks Alban,

That would work from a 'brute force' type of approach, but doesn't address the 
scenario of the user interacting with an app but not making network calls, and 
then encountering an exception when they attempt a network call and the network 
has timed out.

You could conceivably keep the network connection alive by periodic calls to 
the back end, but then you're using resources without need. I'd prefer to close 
the app when the network times out. Just a question of what event to listen to. 
 

Jeff

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Of b_productiv2000
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:50 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

You've got an example in Tour de Flex named detecting user 
presence, it is place in the menu AIR capabilities  coding 
technique.

I don't know if it will serve you but when i read your message i 
remember this demo.

Alban

Battershall, Jeff a écrit :
 
 
 In the AIR app I'm building, if the user leaves the app running for 
 without interaction, the network times out and the user gets 
 ChannelCall.Failed error when they next attempt to interact with the 
 application.
 
  
 
 What's the best way to listen for a timeout? On the ChannelSet? Or to 
 keep the network connection alive by periodic requests?
 
  
 
 Jeff Battershall






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[flexcoders] Re: Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

2009-09-23 Thread reflexactions
We use an error handler on the Operation and then resend up to 3 times before 
raising a hard fail. 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Battershall, Jeff jeff.battersh...@... 
wrote:

 Thanks Alban,
 
 That would work from a 'brute force' type of approach, but doesn't address 
 the scenario of the user interacting with an app but not making network 
 calls, and then encountering an exception when they attempt a network call 
 and the network has timed out.
 
 You could conceivably keep the network connection alive by periodic calls to 
 the back end, but then you're using resources without need. I'd prefer to 
 close the app when the network times out. Just a question of what event to 
 listen to.  
 
 Jeff
 
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 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of b_productiv2000
 Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:50 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices
 
 You've got an example in Tour de Flex named detecting user 
 presence, it is place in the menu AIR capabilities  coding 
 technique.
 
 I don't know if it will serve you but when i read your message i 
 remember this demo.
 
 Alban
 
 Battershall, Jeff a écrit :
  
  
  In the AIR app I'm building, if the user leaves the app running for 
  without interaction, the network times out and the user gets 
  ChannelCall.Failed error when they next attempt to interact with the 
  application.
  
   
  
  What's the best way to listen for a timeout? On the ChannelSet? Or to 
  keep the network connection alive by periodic requests?
  
   
  
  Jeff Battershall
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

2009-09-23 Thread Battershall, Jeff
Well I'm not sure that's going to work in my implementation. I'm using 
Cairngorm and my ServiceLocator is holding my RemoteObject instances. I'm 
assuming that's what's timing out.  I suppose I could refresh the RO in 
question and re-try the call, but I'm understanding of the architecture is not 
complete - not sure if that's going to cut it either.

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of reflexactions
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 10:08 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices

We use an error handler on the Operation and then resend up to 3 times before 
raising a hard fail. 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Battershall, Jeff jeff.battersh...@... 
wrote:

 Thanks Alban,
 
 That would work from a 'brute force' type of approach, but doesn't address 
 the scenario of the user interacting with an app but not making network 
 calls, and then encountering an exception when they attempt a network call 
 and the network has timed out.
 
 You could conceivably keep the network connection alive by periodic calls to 
 the back end, but then you're using resources without need. I'd prefer to 
 close the app when the network times out. Just a question of what event to 
 listen to.  
 
 Jeff
 
 -Original Message-
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of b_productiv2000
 Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 3:50 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Detecing AIR Network Timeout - Best Practices
 
 You've got an example in Tour de Flex named detecting user 
 presence, it is place in the menu AIR capabilities  coding 
 technique.
 
 I don't know if it will serve you but when i read your message i 
 remember this demo.
 
 Alban
 
 Battershall, Jeff a écrit :
  
  
  In the AIR app I'm building, if the user leaves the app running for 
  without interaction, the network times out and the user gets 
  ChannelCall.Failed error when they next attempt to interact with the 
  application.
  
   
  
  What's the best way to listen for a timeout? On the ChannelSet? Or to 
  keep the network connection alive by periodic requests?
  
   
  
  Jeff Battershall
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[flexcoders] Executing commands to other programs?

2009-09-23 Thread agaboogaboo
In Flex, how can I have the program execute something through a terminal?

Basically, I want to fire up a Java application to run some tasks taking 
parameters generate by the Flex app.

Any advice? I'd imagine it's something simple, but I'm not sure what to search 
for to find this.



[flexcoders] Re: Executing commands to other programs?

2009-09-23 Thread valdhor
If you are using AIR, you can use Merapi (http://www.merapiproject.net/)


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, agaboogaboo agabooga...@... wrote:

 In Flex, how can I have the program execute something through a terminal?
 
 Basically, I want to fire up a Java application to run some tasks taking 
 parameters generate by the Flex app.
 
 Any advice? I'd imagine it's something simple, but I'm not sure what to 
 search for to find this.





[flexcoders] DataGrid ItemEditor help

2009-09-23 Thread taude1
Hi All,
  I've been working with DataGrid itemEditors with a custom checkbox column.  
It's been challenging, to say the least.  I'm at the point where I'm getting 
ready to scrap the itemEditor infrastructure and just code itemRenderers that 
can display edit components.  It might be easier.

I'm hoping some of you will have random tidbits around the web that I can read, 
or suggested workarounds.

1st issue)  When I check a checkbox on the row, I'm wishing for all the 
ItemEditors on that row to show in edit mode.  

2)  When user checks a checkbox, I want to set data values on the item editors 
to default values.

3)  When rendering the screen and loading up items that were selected before 
(via checkbox), I want to set the item editors to contain the default bound 
data.

4)  When unchecking a checkbox in the row, I wish to remove all set values.

I'm using a variation of Alex H's CheckBoxDataGrid with CheckBoxItemRenderer 
for the checkbox portion of the row.

I've judiciously used a lot of the itemEditor events, like itemEditBegining, 
etc...

But I'm still having all sorts of state problems and annoying inconsistencies.  

Should I bail on itemEditors and just write a custom fancy itemRenderer that 
can display edit fields at my whim?  Are there any good tutorials out there for 
doing fancy bindings with ItemEditors?  (I've read through all the docs at the 
adobe site.)  

Thanks



[flexcoders] Re: Executing commands to other programs?

2009-09-23 Thread agaboogaboo
That would work, but I also need to execute some python scripts to activate 
some external hardware.

Ideally, I can just make flex execute command line functions and that would be 
the easiest - otherwise maybe I can use Merapi and have Flex/Air execute a Java 
app, which executes the Python script. That isn't a clean solution, but if I 
have to, that's what I'll do.

Any more thoughts?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, valdhor valdhorli...@... wrote:

 If you are using AIR, you can use Merapi (http://www.merapiproject.net/)
 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, agaboogaboo agaboogaboo@ wrote:
 
  In Flex, how can I have the program execute something through a terminal?
  
  Basically, I want to fire up a Java application to run some tasks taking 
  parameters generate by the Flex app.
  
  Any advice? I'd imagine it's something simple, but I'm not sure what to 
  search for to find this.
 





RE: [flexcoders] DataGrid ItemEditor help

2009-09-23 Thread Alex Harui
The DG only supports one popup editor at a time.  I think you will have to have 
the other renderers change their look and set rendererIsEditor on them.

Alex Harui
Flex SDK Developer
Adobe Systems Inc.http://www.adobe.com/
Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of taude1
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:38 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] DataGrid ItemEditor help



Hi All,
I've been working with DataGrid itemEditors with a custom checkbox column. It's 
been challenging, to say the least. I'm at the point where I'm getting ready to 
scrap the itemEditor infrastructure and just code itemRenderers that can 
display edit components. It might be easier.

I'm hoping some of you will have random tidbits around the web that I can read, 
or suggested workarounds.

1st issue) When I check a checkbox on the row, I'm wishing for all the 
ItemEditors on that row to show in edit mode.

2) When user checks a checkbox, I want to set data values on the item editors 
to default values.

3) When rendering the screen and loading up items that were selected before 
(via checkbox), I want to set the item editors to contain the default bound 
data.

4) When unchecking a checkbox in the row, I wish to remove all set values.

I'm using a variation of Alex H's CheckBoxDataGrid with CheckBoxItemRenderer 
for the checkbox portion of the row.

I've judiciously used a lot of the itemEditor events, like itemEditBegining, 
etc...

But I'm still having all sorts of state problems and annoying inconsistencies.

Should I bail on itemEditors and just write a custom fancy itemRenderer that 
can display edit fields at my whim? Are there any good tutorials out there for 
doing fancy bindings with ItemEditors? (I've read through all the docs at the 
adobe site.)

Thanks



[flexcoders] Re: AS3 URLRequest issue

2009-09-23 Thread Calbeans
That's exactly what it was, I needed to escape my flashvar.  Thanks!



RE: [flexcoders] SDK 3.2 upgrade to 3.4 issue

2009-09-23 Thread Jake Churchill
Thanks for the info.  I was just upgrading to stay current, no particular
reason so I'll hang back on 3.3 for a while until 3.5 is released.

Jake Churchill
CF Webtools
11204 Davenport, Ste. 100
Omaha, NE  68154
http://www.cfwebtools.com
402-408-3733 x103

-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Cheng
Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2009 5:14 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] SDK 3.2 upgrade to 3.4 issue

Yup, something did change for the worse in 3.4 in a show-stopping way.

There's a relatively easy workaround for this, just add your own listeners
to HTTPService directly and those will only get called once (as opposed to
the responder).

Try the 3.x branch on opensource.adobe.com if you've brave, or stick with
3.3 for the time being if you can afford to wait for them to roll out the
next official build.

Here's the bug:

   http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-22883

Jim Cheng
EffectiveUI

Jake Churchill wrote:
 
 I just installed the 3.4 SDK (previously was using 3.2).  I have a 
 project which uses Cairngorm.  I switch the project to the new 
 compiler version and re-build without any errors.  However, whenever I 
 run the project, all my events get dispatched once (I'm breaking the 
 code all over to verify) but the result handler in the commands get hit
twice.
 
  
 
 Did something change regarding event dispatching, AsyncTokens, etc 
 that would cause this?
 
  
 
 FYI, switching back to 3.2 and re-building makes the code run just 
 fine again.





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[flexcoders] Re: Executing commands to other programs?

2009-09-23 Thread valdhor
Perhaps you could install Apache and mod_python and use pyAMF to send data via 
AMF. I don't know Python but I would assume you could then execute a Java app 
from Python.


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, agaboogaboo agabooga...@... wrote:

 That would work, but I also need to execute some python scripts to activate 
 some external hardware.
 
 Ideally, I can just make flex execute command line functions and that would 
 be the easiest - otherwise maybe I can use Merapi and have Flex/Air execute a 
 Java app, which executes the Python script. That isn't a clean solution, but 
 if I have to, that's what I'll do.
 
 Any more thoughts?
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, valdhor valdhorlists@ wrote:
 
  If you are using AIR, you can use Merapi (http://www.merapiproject.net/)
  
  
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, agaboogaboo agaboogaboo@ wrote:
  
   In Flex, how can I have the program execute something through a terminal?
   
   Basically, I want to fire up a Java application to run some tasks taking 
   parameters generate by the Flex app.
   
   Any advice? I'd imagine it's something simple, but I'm not sure what to 
   search for to find this.
  
 





[flexcoders] camera function question?

2009-09-23 Thread markflex2007
Hi,

I wamt to use some camera functions to get Snapshot in Flex application.

something like follows:

camera = Camera.getCamera();
vd.attachCamera(camera);
var bd:BitmapData = ImageSnapshot.captureBitmapData(vd);

mx:VideoDisplay id=vd width=200 height=200 visible=false/

Do I have to need flash media server setup or not?

May I use the functions if I do not have flash media server?

Thanks for your help

Mark



[flexcoders] Reference SPARK application

2009-09-23 Thread Marvin Froeder
Hi,
Is there any reference application out there using SPARK?

Something more then a hello world and 2 skinned components =D



VELO


[flexcoders] Potomac - Flex Modularity Framework (like OSGi / Eclipse RCP)

2009-09-23 Thread schtoo2
Hi flexcoders,

I wanted to drop by and announce our new Flex framework.  I've seen a few 
messages here over time where people are looking for a framework like the 
Eclipse RCP that includes a deep modular approach.  We've just released on 
thats just for those applications.

Potomac brings OSGI-like modularity to Flex.

Check it out:

http://www.potomacframework.org

thanks,
-Chris

p.s. I know - not another Flex framework.  But this one is different... 
really... I promise :)



[flexcoders] Re: modules vs. sub-applications

2009-09-23 Thread schtoo2
Hi Chris,

You should check out our recently released modular framework for Flex:

www.potomacframework.org

-Chris

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Chris Sheffield cmsheffi...@... wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'm brand new to Flex. Well, maybe not brand new, but almost. I've  
 been reading books and working on tutorials for a couple months now,  
 but my company is just getting started on our first Flex project. I'm  
 excited to be working with Flex. I'm realizing there is still a lot to  
 learn.
 
 Here is my first big question. I think I'm asking for more of an  
 opinion from other developers than anything, but I'm also curious to  
 know if there is a best practice kind of answer. I've been reading  
 through the Flex documentation and through other sources about using  
 modules vs. sub-applications. I think I understand pretty well the  
 difference between the two. The application we'll be creating will  
 consist of multiple screens, or views, that school students will work  
 their way through one screen at a time. Each screen, for the most  
 part, is independent of another, but some screens are similar in that  
 the student will perform similar activities on them. So there will  
 probably be some screens that will need to share code. We would also  
 like to make use of the same screens in such a way that someone in our  
 company can test/verify certain pieces of content (for example, text,  
 audio, pictures, etc), and see this content exactly as a student would  
 see it by jumping directly to a specific screen. Hopefully I've  
 provided enough information for someone to tell me, in your opinion,  
 would it be best to use modules or sub-apps for the individual  
 screens? I wasn't sure if it would even be possible to jump into a  
 specific screen if it were a module. I think I'm leaning toward using  
 sub-apps, but wondered if there are any major drawbacks. What about if  
 sub-apps need to share classes, methods, properties, etc.?
 
 Looking forward to your responses.
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 
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 Read Naturally, Inc.
 www.readnaturally.com





[flexcoders] Re: login form

2009-09-23 Thread varsha.nadig
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, gurmeet.bali gurmeet.b...@... wrote:

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, varsha.nadig varsha.nadig@ wrote:
 
  hi m designing a new application..
  
  i have designed the login page, but i don't know how to go the welcome page 
  after login page..
  what should i do to open a new mxml doc from one mxml with a button click?
 
 Thier is no concept of pages in flex applications.It is all embeded in a 
 single Application mxml.The only thing is showing/hiding different components 
 or using the navigation controls provided by flex.



thank u gurmeet..
but i hav no idea how to use the navigation controls..
can u please elaborate this



[flexcoders] Re: login form

2009-09-23 Thread Gopi
Hi,
   We can navigate to another MXML, this is the simplest way which worked for 
me.

1. Create a instance of the userForm.MXML in the login page while on click of 
the button.

2.mx:Button label=Log in id=submitButton click=checkuser();/

3. 
private function checkuser():void 
{
var userform:UserForm = new UserForm();
 var myCan:Canvas = new Canvas();   
  parentApplication.removeAllChildren();
myCan.addChild(userform);
parentApplication.addChild(myCan); 
}

This thing works for me, try it out.

And if find any other best way do post it below.

Gopi Shankar



Re: [flexcoders] modules vs. sub-applications

2009-09-23 Thread Chris Sheffield

Alex,

Thanks so much for the info. Good things to keep in mind.


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www.readnaturally.com

On Sep 22, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Alex Harui wrote:



Hopefully you’ve read through the modules and marshall plan posts on  
my blog.




Sub-apps can share code via RSLs.

You can’t jump immediately to either a sub-app or module; it has to  
load first.


You can build custom test harnesses for either.



There are three main criteria: size, integration and security.   
Modules are generally smaller because they are optimized for a  
particular host.  Sub-apps must carry their own weight because they  
are capable of running on their own.  Modules sacrifice security for  
tight integration: they assume they have direct references to the  
host.  Sub-applications can be written in a way that they don’t  
assume direct access to the main application and that allows you to  
sandbox the sub-app so it can’t do mean things.  Sandboxing also  
allows the application to be written with a different version of  
Flex.  However there are UI and performance limitations.




If you own and will always own every line of code that runs, modules  
are going to be faster and smaller.




Alex Harui

Flex SDK Developer

Adobe Systems Inc.

Blog: http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui









[flexcoders] Largest tomcat heapsize with LCDS

2009-09-23 Thread tajensen72
We are trying to figure out what the largest heapsize we can use with 
tomcat/LCDS is.  We currently have it set to 2GB but would like to have more.

Is anybody using a larger heapsize than that? If so, how much heap do you have 
and are you seeing any issues with very long GC's?

Thanks.

tj



Re: [flexcoders] SDK 3.2 upgrade to 3.4 issue

2009-09-23 Thread Jim Cheng
If you do hang back with 3.3 _AND_ are using Flex Builder's 
automatically generated HTML wrapper, you should be aware that there was 
a bug discovered in the express-install template files that can expose 
you to a cross-site-scripting (XSS) attack.  Adobe fixed this in 3.4, 
but with that revision, also introduced the nasty bug with HTTPService 
responders getting called twice.

If you are using the vanilla express-install templates to generate HTML 
for you, you might want to patch your 3.3 SDK while you wait for 3.5.

Here's the relevant links:

http://www.adobe.com/support/security/bulletins/apsb09-13.html

http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/495/cpsid_49530.html

Hope this helps,

Jim Cheng
EffectiveUI

Jake Churchill wrote:
  
 
 Thanks for the info. I was just upgrading to stay current, no particular
 reason so I'll hang back on 3.3 for a while until 3.5 is released.


[flexcoders] Re: login form

2009-09-23 Thread Gopi
I can give you a solution, but i am not sure this is the beat one out.

mx:Button label=Register id=submit click=checkUser();/

1. Create a instance of the MXML should be loaded like this in the checkuser()

 var userform:UserForm = new UserForm();
 var myCan:Canvas = new Canvas();   
  parentApplication.removeAllChildren();
myCan.addChild(userform);
parentApplication.addChild(myCan); 

Here the UserForm is the MXML to be loaded after clicking the button Register.

Let me know the result after your try.



[flexcoders] e4x Filtering Success

2009-09-23 Thread AJC2357
(partially...)

I was able to filter through e4x via mx:XML and the dataProvider as follows...

mx:XML id=data source=sep.xml format=e4x/
mx:PieChart width=100% height=100% dataProvider={data.Location.(region == 
'Asia' )}

How can I add an additional filter argument from here?  Using the  technique 
gave me error that entity name must immediately follow 

I want to filter something like: region = Asia AND GDP/capita = 1  

Thanks!



[flexcoders] scrollRect ???

2009-09-23 Thread flexaustin
Wondering if anyone knows how to get the difference between the scrollRect x 
position relative to the components edges?

I am building a pancontrol, similar to the ones found Google Maps or Yahoo 
Maps, for quick navigation.

In order to setup my pancontrol I need to find out the following given this 
code:

Application...
..

mx:Canvas id=compHolder width=100% height=100% 
horizontalScrollPolicy=off verticalScrollPolicy=off 
components:myComp id=vis 
width=100% height=100% 
horizontalScrollPolicy=off verticalScrollPolicy=off 
backgroundAlpha=0
scrollRect={rec} 
cacheAsBitmap=true
mouseUp=handleVisMouseUp()
/ 
/mx:Canvas

I need to find the distance or gap between the vis.scrollRect xy position 
relative to the vis xy position.  My application width  height are 600 x 600. 
Vis width and height are 3000 x 900 so they extend off screen. I am using the 
scrollRect to limit what is viewable. But in order build my pancontrol I need 
to find the diff between the X  Y of the scrollRect in relation to the XY of 
the Vis. So how far off left, right, bottom, and top of the visible area does 
Vis extend. I need those numbers in pixels.

TIA, J