[flexcoders] Multiple requests from Safari
We have a Safari user that when a button is pressed, two of the same requests going to the server. Has anyone seen this or know how/why this could be happening? Flex 2.0 Remote Object calls/AMF JBoss/Tomcat server OS: OS X 10.4.9 Safari: 2.0.4 (419.3) Flash: Latest Touch pad Another twist is that it seemed to happen when going to our test server over http, but didn't happen when going to a production server over https. Thoughts?
RE: [flexcoders] So? What are folks here actually building...?
We are developing a health care Practice Management and Electronic Health Records platform to service small to medium sized health care practices. - Jim Schneider EyeCodeRight, LLC 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:23 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] So? What are folks here actually building...? Hello, It has been less than a month since we shipped Flex, but I know many folks on this list had projects they started back in the public beta time. I know in many cases you may not be able to talk about what projects you are working on, but for those who can I'd love to get a view onto what folks are building. We spent a long time (almost two years) on all the parts of the Flex 2 product line (and the Flash Player 9) and it is very cool to see the traffic here, the emergence of third party conferences like www.flexseminar.com, the books coming out on Flex, the 60K plus downloads of the IDE in the public beta, but we'd love to get a sense of what real applications people are starting to build. The team is already working on plans for mid-term and longer term upgrades to Flex, and it helps us to really understand what people are building. So, if you are able to talk about what you are building please do share--I think it would be very interesting for the community and very valuable for us on the Flex team at Adobe. --David Adobe __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] Beta 3 - Custom Java Adapter
Here's my standard post after every beta. We have developed a custom Java Adapter used to lookup/invoke Spring beans that implement our remote object services. With beta 3, this is now broken again. I have found some mention of factories configuration in flex-enterprise-services.xml, but don't see any examples of how to configure such a factory for a destination. In general, I don't really understand what the factories will do for me. Should the factory replace my customer java adapter? Should the factory be used to create my adapter? Any thoughts? Thanks, Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex Contract Opportunity
Hello, We are looking for 1-2 Flex developers for a 6 month contract (1099, Corp-to-Corp). Initial contract is 6 months, but could be extended beyond that. Location - anywhere you want. Depending on your location, minimal travel (1-2 days) may be involved. You must have proven (real world preferred) Flex experience (Flex 2 preferred) and be deadline driven (our deadlines, that is :-) You must be able to work with designs produced by UI designers and in some cases, create your own designs. Experience with Cairngorm framework is highly desirable. If you've been active in this group, I'll know your name. Other nice skills to have would be: Flash Effects Remote Objects FDS Java App Server (JBoss/Tomcat) install (minimal configuration) Database (MySQL) install (minimal configuration) CVS JUnit/FlexUnit If you are qualified and interested, please contact me offline. Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex2b2 - Customer Java Adapter/Data Mapping
We are using remote objects/services and have developed a custom Java adapter. In beta1, JavaAdapter had a getMethod() method to look up a remote classs method. This API does not appear to be available in beta2. I replaced this with just the standard java reflection method lookup on Class. However, it appears as if this method did some more work. Specifically, I am calling an API that takes a java.lang.Long as a parameter. I pass a Number from actionscript, it gets mapping to a java.lang.Integer on the server, and now my reflection look does not work as there is no version of my operation that takes a java.lang.Integer (we are expecting java.lang.Long). Any thoughts on this? Is the old JavaAdapter.getMethod() available somehow/somewhere? If not, did the old getMethod() do more work than standard reflection to find the appropriate method (perhaps iterating the valid numeric object types?)? If so, would Adobe care to share this code with me/us so I dont have to roll my own? Any other suggestions? Thanks, Jim - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
Same happens with NaN. Do you (Adobe) have any thoughts as to whether this is worthy of a fix, or will we need to remember to add the logic to check for 0 in all of our Java objects. Thanks, Jim - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:12 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping What happens if you set the Number to NaN in AS? I believe null will coerce to 0 in AS3. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:20 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping Im experiencing the following behavior. I set an AS Number variable to null prior to sending to a remote object. On the backend (Java), the Number is converted to a 0. The expected data type on the Java end is a Long (object, not primitive). This is causing us problems since we expect a null Long object to be represented as null in the database, not 0, and as an indicator of a new object that needs to be inserted rather than updated. Is this expected behavior/mapping? Is it a bug? I can fix it on the backend with some additional logic, but Id rather not have to do that. Thoughts? Thanks. - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
Yep, that's the issue. Actionscript has the concept of null. Java has the
concept of null. It would seem that AMF/Flex should be able to map the two
correctly.
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Wolf
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:46 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
The core of the issue is that the deserializer cant seperate a
primitive from an Object wrapper right? I mean mapping a null onto a
long of 0 is correct. The issue youre having is you want a Long which
itsel is null right?
I can say you'd face this issue in CORBA all the time too. The
solution in CORBA was to pass a structure that had an isNull property.
struct NullableLong
{
long value;
bool isNull;
}
Now you would set the value to zero but the isNull to true.
Just how we solved this back in the CORBA days :)
Passing nulls across languages (hence the CORBA tie) is always an ugly
issue in distributed computing.
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--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jim Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Same happens with NaN. Do you (Adobe) have any thoughts as to
whether this
is worthy of a fix, or will we need to remember to add the logic
to check
for 0 in all of our Java objects.
Thanks,
Jim
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Behalf Of Matt Chotin
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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
What happens if you set the Number to NaN in AS? I believe null
will coerce
to 0 in AS3.
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Schneider
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 9:20 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
I'm experiencing the following behavior. I set an AS Number variable
to null
prior to sending to a remote object. On the backend (Java), the
Number is
converted to a 0. The expected data type on the Java end is a Long
(object,
not primitive). This is causing us problems since we expect a null Long
object to be represented as null in the database, not 0, and as an
indicator
of a new object that needs to be inserted rather than updated.
Is this expected behavior/mapping? Is it a bug? I can fix it on the
backend
with some additional logic, but I'd rather not have to do that.
Thoughts?
Thanks.
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[flexcoders] Flex 2 equivalent of remote-objects-debug
Is there an equivalent in Flex 2 of the remote-objects-debug configuration element so that I can turn on debug output of the AMF data to/from my remote objects? Thanks, Jim - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex2: AS Number to Java Long mapping
Im experiencing the following behavior. I set an AS Number variable to null prior to sending to a remote object. On the backend (Java), the Number is converted to a 0. The expected data type on the Java end is a Long (object, not primitive). This is causing us problems since we expect a null Long object to be represented as null in the database, not 0, and as an indicator of a new object that needs to be inserted rather than updated. Is this expected behavior/mapping? Is it a bug? I can fix it on the backend with some additional logic, but Id rather not have to do that. Thoughts? Thanks. - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Flex2 - Custom JavaAdapter - ServletContext
I'm writing a custom java adapter (remote object). I'd like to get access to
the ServletContext. Is that available? If so, where would I be able to find
it? (adapter, service, channel, message broker, ...?). In 1.5, there was an
ActionContext class that I could use. Is there an equivalent in 2.0?
Additionally, is there some api that I can call from within the adapter that
will transform {context.root} to the actual context root string?
Thanks,
Jim
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CF query -
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cfquery name=getAllPersonnel datasource=spotDB
SELECT PersonName, PersonTitle, convert(datetime, InterviewDate, 101) FROM
dbo.PersonnelNeeded WHERE (InterviewDate = '2/20/2005')
/cfquery
On all the DBMS that I have experience with, using a function in the select
statement will cause the name of the column to be changed. The easiest fix
for this is to alias the column name.
SELECT PersonName, PersonTitle, convert(datetime, InterviewDate, 101) AS
InterviewDate
This will alias the column back to its original name. But you could put any
legal string after that AS statement and then use that string in the flex
code.
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
Thanks for the responses. Sorry for my ignorance, but are you suggesting that the JSP simulate a login (invoking the loginContext/loginModule)? Or are you suggesting that the JSP set the UserPrincipal in the HTTP request (although I don't see a setter in the request interface API, which makes me wonder how JAAS injects the UserPrincipal into the request, but I can probably find that somewhere). To answer Matt's questions, no, I'm not sure JAAS successfully stores the principal, yes, the login module is being called, but I'll look at it more closely. Thanks again, Jim - Jim Schneider EyeCodeRight, LLC 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Wolf Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:37 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce) We have, as Carson mentioned, definately seen issues where the j_session_id is not properly propogated through the proxy. I would want to see, as Matt alludes to, do the credentials get propogated when we take the proxy out of the picture. I would create a simple JSP page which itself returns the UserPrincipal. Call that JSP from within your Flex app and read the value. -- Dave Wolf Cynergy Systems, Inc. Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You sure that JAAS successfully stores the Principal back in the user request? If you did something similar via JSP would everything come through correctly? I haven't played with JBoss but WebSphere for example failed to store the authenticated principal in the request even when I went through JAAS to login my user in. You traced to see that your login module is called? From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 2:12 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: FW: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce) No one has any thoughts/ideas on this? - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login I finally got back to looking at this. I Instrumented my code to look at flashgateway.Gateway.getHttpRequest().getRemotePrincipal() and getRemoteUser(). RemoteUser is empty and remote principal is null. I see the userid/password credentials in the amf trace from the client (setting UsernamePassword on the service), but nothing in the service. I'm using remote objects. Remote object is a spring bean. I've implemented a JAAS login module that appears to be functioning correctly (loginContext succeeds). Using JBoss 4.0.x. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jim From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carson Hager Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:22 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login If you use standard J2EE auth to the container, you can get the remote user provided you are not using the proxy. There is currently an issue with the proxy not forwarding the cookie in most ( all that we've seen ) circumstances. We have received a fix from Adobe on this that we are in the process of testing. This being said, if you don't use the proxy, you'll be able to acccess the user without issue from within your service implementations. Here's the kicker. The AS2 VM doesn't not handle HTTP status code 500. It stops parsing the HTTP response when it sees a 500 which means that you will never be able to get at any data that occurs due to a SOAP Fault. Per the web services spec, the container is required to return an HTTP 500 status code when returning a fault. Effectively, you can't handle SOAP faults when you don't use the proxy and you get that meaningless error message that looks like it simply couldn't connect to the service. This issue is handled by the proxy. It changes that HTTP status code to 200 so that the flash player can parse the request. This is a kludge if you ask me but that's where we are today. As a note, this is being addressed in FP8.5 but the fix will very likely not ( according to Adobe ) be fixed in earlier versions due to backward compatibility. Carson Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http
RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
Is this a valid test for this? I've verified that the login.jsp fires the
JAAS login module and I do get the principal object back. In both jsps
(login.jsp and verify.jsp), the user/principal information is null. (BTW,
I've tried using the JBoss-supplied DatabaseServerLoginModule and my own to
check for differences. None)
Can we conclude from this that the JBoss JAAS module is not setting the
principal information?
Logintest.mxml
{
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml; xmlns=*
mx:Panel width=100% height=100% title=Login Test
mx:VBox height=100% width=100%
mx:Button label=Login click=getUrl('login.jsp', 'LoginTest')/
mx:Button label=Verify click=getUrl('verify.jsp',
'LoginTest')/
/mx:VBox
/mx:Panel
/mx:Application
}
Login.jsp (snippet)
{
%
Subject subject = new Subject();
UsernamePasswordHandler handler = new UsernamePasswordHandler(username,
password.toCharArray());
LoginContext loginContext = new LoginContext(employee, subject,
handler);
loginContext.login();
String user = request.getRemoteUser();
String principal = null;
if (request.getUserPrincipal() != null)
principal = request.getUserPrincipal().getName();
}
%
Login Remote User: %= user %br
Login Principal: %= principal %
}
Verify.jsp
{
%
String user = request.getRemoteUser();
String principal = null;
if (request.getUserPrincipal() != null)
principal = request.getUserPrincipal().getName();
%
Verify Remote User: %= user %br
Verify Principal: %= principal %
}
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:19 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
Right, basically attempt to remove Flex from the equation for the
moment, get your JAAS module to fire using credentials you pass in using
the JSP. Then after you've authenticated use the JSP to see if that
newly created authenticated Principal is stored in the request. If it
isn't there then the problem is bigger than RemoteObject.
Matt
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login
(bounce)
He's actually not suggesting either. He's suggesting creating a test
JSP that returns the user principal objec to verify that the JSP is
within an authenticated session.
%=request.getUserPrincipal().getName()%
It looks like you're going through a proxy which is using another
session. As I mentioned earlier, there are issues with the proxy and
forwarding credentials from an existing session. Our context was the
use of web services but this could very well be what you're seeing as
well.
Carson
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:49 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login
(bounce)
Thanks for the responses.
Sorry for my ignorance, but are you suggesting that the JSP simulate a
login
(invoking the loginContext/loginModule)? Or are you suggesting that the
JSP
set the UserPrincipal in the HTTP request (although I don't see a setter
in
the request interface API, which makes me wonder how JAAS injects the
UserPrincipal into the request, but I can probably find that somewhere).
To answer Matt's questions, no, I'm not sure JAAS successfully stores
the
principal, yes, the login module is being called, but I'll look at it
more
closely.
Thanks again,
Jim
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Dave Wolf
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:37 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
We have, as Carson mentioned, definately seen issues where the
j_session_id is not properly propogated through the proxy. I would
want to see, as Matt alludes to, do the credentials get propogated
when we take the proxy out of the picture. I would create a simple
JSP page which itself returns the UserPrincipal. Call that JSP from
within your Flex app and read the value.
--
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Cynergy Systems, Inc.
Macromedia Flex Alliance Partner
http://www.cynergysystems.com
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 866-CYNERGY
RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
Thanks for the info.
First, let me clarify that this is not how we intend to do login/auth. I was
merely trying to get the LoginModule to fire without going through any
server-side/flex/proxy.
Does this process only work if we try to access a restricted resource? That
is, if the first screen in my Flex app is the login page, can I post the
form to one of my own services (remote object), manually do the
handler/loginContext process as described in login.jsp below? Or does it
need to be posted to this j_security_check? If this login module/context
succeeds (login/commit), does it matter whether this was called through my
own code or from this mysterious j_security_check? (BTW, what is
j_security_check? A jsp, url to servlet handled by container, I can do
the search on this myself, but if you want to answer, I'd certainly read it
:-))
Is there some standard way of handling an app that requires the user to
login prior to doing anything? For example, I see the app being launched
from a link/button on our web site. I want the login page to display. Do we
have this link/button point to some fake (or real) protected resource to
kick off the auth process?
As always, thanks for the education.
Jim
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Jim Schneider
KJ Interactive, Inc.
1-877-370-6906
1-612-605-5399
-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Carson Hager
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 12:41 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
Actually, this doesn't look correct at all. You're trying to go about
this manually and that is not how J2EE security works. For this to
work, you have to integrate with the container which means configuring
your servlet container to delegate all J2EE authentication/authorization
to your JAAS module. After that, you then have to secure resources
within your web application however that's done in your container. For
things like Tomcat, this is done directly in web.xml. Your situation
here will likely be different. If you are using form auth, you then
point your flex form to post to j_security_check passing in j_username
and j_password. If you are using basic auth, you will simply be
prompted by the browser for userid/password. Regardless of which you
choose, the order of operations in the J2EE world is the following.
1. User requests a secure resource
2. Server responds with either the page you have configured for
credentials (Form auth) or with a request to the client(browser) to
garner then login information (Basic auth).
3. User enters credentials.
4. If successful, you now have an authenticated session that the server
is intimately familiar with.
To answer the next question, you cannot force these credentials into
J2EE authentication session manually. You have to go through the
server's provided interfaces. Unfortunately, J2EE security is much too
broad a subject to get into in this medium. I've atttempted to give you
a brief outline of the process here so that you can pursue it within the
context of your container and its capabilities. Given the frequency of
the questions surrounding this topic, we have submitted this topic as a
candidate for an upcoming DevNet article.
Carson
Carson Hager
Cynergy Systems, Inc.
http://www.cynergysystems.com
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-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jim Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:31 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword and J2EE login
(bounce)
Is this a valid test for this? I've verified that the login.jsp fires
the
JAAS login module and I do get the principal object back. In both jsps
(login.jsp and verify.jsp), the user/principal information is null.
(BTW,
I've tried using the JBoss-supplied DatabaseServerLoginModule and my own
to
check for differences. None)
Can we conclude from this that the JBoss JAAS module is not setting the
principal information?
Logintest.mxml
{
mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.macromedia.com/2003/mxml;
xmlns=*
mx:Panel width=100% height=100% title=Login Test
mx:VBox height=100% width=100%
mx:Button label=Login click=getUrl('login.jsp',
'LoginTest')/
mx:Button label=Verify click=getUrl('verify.jsp',
'LoginTest')/
/mx:VBox
/mx:Panel
/mx:Application
}
Login.jsp (snippet)
{
%
Subject subject = new Subject();
UsernamePasswordHandler handler = new
UsernamePasswordHandler(username,
password.toCharArray());
LoginContext loginContext = new LoginContext(employee, subject,
handler);
loginContext.login();
String user = request.getRemoteUser();
String principal = null;
if (request.getUserPrincipal() != null)
principal = request.getUserPrincipal().getName
FW: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login (bounce)
No one has any thoughts/ideas on this? - Jim Schneider KJ Interactive, Inc. 1-877-370-6906 1-612-605-5399 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login I finally got back to looking at this. I Instrumented my code to look at flashgateway.Gateway.getHttpRequest().getRemotePrincipal() and getRemoteUser(). RemoteUser is empty and remote principal is null. I see the userid/password credentials in the amf trace from the client (setting UsernamePassword on the service), but nothing in the service. Im using remote objects. Remote object is a spring bean. Ive implemented a JAAS login module that appears to be functioning correctly (loginContext succeeds). Using JBoss 4.0.x. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jim From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carson Hager Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:22 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login If you use standard J2EE auth to the container, you can get the remote user provided you are not using the proxy. There is currently an issue with the proxy not forwarding the cookie in most ( all that we've seen ) circumstances. We have received a fix from Adobe on this that we are in the process of testing. This being said, if you don't use the proxy, you'll be able to acccess the user without issue from within your service implementations. Here's the kicker. The AS2 VM doesn't not handle HTTP status code 500. It stops parsing the HTTP response when it sees a 500 which means that you will never be able to get at any data that occurs due to a SOAP Fault. Per the web services spec, the container is required to return an HTTP 500 status code when returning a fault. Effectively, you can't handle SOAP faults when you don't use the proxy and you get that meaningless error message that looks like it simply couldn't connect to the service. This issue is handled by the proxy. It changes that HTTP status code to 200 so that the flash player can parse the request. This is a kludge if you ask me but that's where we are today. As a note, this is being addressed in FP8.5 but the fix will very likely not ( according to Adobe ) be fixed in earlier versions due to backward compatibility. Carson Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:37 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login I think you should be able to get it from the flashgateway.Gateway.getHttpRequest().getRemotePrincipal() or getRemoteUser(). From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:32 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login After calling setUsernamePassword on a service, is this information available to the backend services (remote object or web service)? Or perhaps after a J2EE/JAAS login? If so, how/where? We have a requirement to do a lot of logging of whos doing what in the system and was wondering whether there are any alternatives to passing a username/id with most/all APIs. Thanks for any help. Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login
I finally got back to looking at this. I Instrumented my code to look at flashgateway.Gateway.getHttpRequest().getRemotePrincipal() and getRemoteUser(). RemoteUser is empty and remote principal is null. I see the userid/password credentials in the amf trace from the client (setting UsernamePassword on the service), but nothing in the service. Im using remote objects. Remote object is a spring bean. Ive implemented a JAAS login module that appears to be functioning correctly (loginContext succeeds). Using JBoss 4.0.x. Any thoughts? Thanks, Jim From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carson Hager Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 10:22 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login If you use standard J2EE auth to the container, you can get the remote user provided you are not using the proxy. There is currently an issue with the proxy not forwarding the cookie in most ( all that we've seen ) circumstances. We have received a fix from Adobe on this that we are in the process of testing. This being said, if you don't use the proxy, you'll be able to acccess the user without issue from within your service implementations. Here's the kicker. The AS2 VM doesn't not handle HTTP status code 500. It stops parsing the HTTP response when it sees a 500 which means that you will never be able to get at any data that occurs due to a SOAP Fault. Per the web services spec, the container is required to return an HTTP 500 status code when returning a fault. Effectively, you can't handle SOAP faults when you don't use the proxy and you get that meaningless error message that looks like it simply couldn't connect to the service. This issue is handled by the proxy. It changes that HTTP status code to 200 so that the flash player can parse the request. This is a kludge if you ask me but that's where we are today. As a note, this is being addressed in FP8.5 but the fix will very likely not ( according to Adobe ) be fixed in earlier versions due to backward compatibility. Carson Carson Hager Cynergy Systems, Inc. http://www.cynergysystems.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Office: 866-CYNERGY Mobile: 1.703.489.6466 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Chotin Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 7:37 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login I think you should be able to get it from the flashgateway.Gateway.getHttpRequest().getRemotePrincipal() or getRemoteUser(). From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:32 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login After calling setUsernamePassword on a service, is this information available to the backend services (remote object or web service)? Or perhaps after a J2EE/JAAS login? If so, how/where? We have a requirement to do a lot of logging of whos doing what in the system and was wondering whether there are any alternatives to passing a username/id with most/all APIs. Thanks for any help. Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] setUsernamePassword and J2EE login
After calling setUsernamePassword on a service, is this information available to the backend services (remote object or web service)? Or perhaps after a J2EE/JAAS login? If so, how/where? We have a requirement to do a lot of logging of whos doing what in the system and was wondering whether there are any alternatives to passing a username/id with most/all APIs. Thanks for any help. Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Remote Object/Spring Beans
Perfect. Thanks.
-
Jim Schneider
EyeCodeRight, LLC
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-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Richard Rodseth
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:08 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Remote Object/Spring Beans
Hi Jim
Have you looked at SpringBeanAdapter?
http://www.carbonfive.com/community/archives/2005/07/springbeanadapt.html
- Richard
On 1/11/06, Jim Schneider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If I were to go down the path of using remote object access and wanted to
use Spring beans on the back end for service implementation, would I still
need to have a thin layer/delegate to get to the Spring bean? (I'm
assuming
this will make sense to some of the J2EE guys out there).
For example (ignoring obvious syntax and casting problems):
// Flex calls delegate remote object, doSomething method
// RemoteObject = Delegate.java
// ServiceBean = POJO with Spring id = someSpringBean
Public class delegate
{
Public void doSomething()
{
beanFactory.getBean(someSpringBean).doSomething();
}
}
Just wondering whether there's a work-around (or code generator) so that I
don't have to duplicate every method in my someSpringBean in the thin
delegate layer.
Thanks,
Jim
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[flexcoders] Remote Object/Spring Beans
If I were to go down the path of using remote object access
and wanted to use Spring beans on the back end for service implementation,
would I still need to have a thin layer/delegate to get to the Spring bean? (Im
assuming this will make sense to some of the J2EE guys out there).
For example (ignoring obvious syntax and casting problems):
// Flex calls delegate remote object,
doSomething method
// RemoteObject = Delegate.java
// ServiceBean = POJO with Spring id = someSpringBean
Public class delegate
{
Public
void doSomething()
{
beanFactory.getBean(someSpringBean).doSomething();
}
}
Just wondering whether theres a work-around (or code
generator) so that I dont have to duplicate every method in my someSpringBean
in the thin delegate layer.
Thanks,
Jim
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[flexcoders] Java Pojo to AS pojo with ant
Im looking to automatically generate actionscript pojos from java pojos (ejb3 annotations) using Ant. I saw the AS2vogenerator, but it was my understanding that was done in an IDE and was dependent on hbm files. Maybe I misunderstand the capabilities. On a related note, has anyone been able to generate DDL using the hibernate-tools ant task without having to list out all of the annotated classes in the hibernate.cfg.xml file? Seems like there should be a way to pass in the class files to the annotationconfiguration ant element, but after searching for a couple hours, I didnt see that this was supported. Ideally, this should read from a par file and not really need the cfg.xml file (except for database dialect). While Im asking for everything, does anyone else have some useful code generation tools (using ant) that they can share? Specifically, from an ejb3 annotated set of pojos, and a business service interface (ejb3 stateless session interface), I would like to: Generate DDL for any given database dialect Generate actionscript pojos from java pojos Generate server-side java business delegate (remote object) from a business service interface (ejb3 stateless session interface) Generate client-side actionscript business delegate from that same interface (for cairngorm framework) Again, I want to do this all from ant, not from an IDE. Maybe these are just a set of velocity templates? Any examples of these (and how to invoke in ant) would be great as Id rather not have to learn the velocity template language (yet!). Thanks, Jim -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures
Heres one that Ive used for prototyping: service name=weatherServiceWS wsdlhttp://www.webservicex.net/WeatherForecast.asmx?WSDL/wsdl endpoints endpointhttp://www.webservicex.net/WeatherForecast.asmx/endpoint /endpoints use-custom-authenticationtrue/use-custom-authentication /service From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:56 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures um... ok so do you like know of any public WSDL's then? - Original Message - From: Mink, Joseph To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 12:12 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures Gotcha...very cool! Unfortunately, I can't share our wsdls with you asthey aren't mine to share...but I'll keep you in mind. A short supply of wsdls has never been a problem here! From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures I've done it in Flash, and ported similiar remoting classes for Flex since they are already in there (what a lot of HTTPService, RemoteObject, WebService are built off of). Figured if you hit me with a WSDL you know works, public or not, I could test it and post some example code. My problem has been finding WSDL's that work. xMethods.com for example has a ton that don't and it's a waste of time; rather go to someone who has one that knows it works. The rest like Amazon and PayPal have ones that work, but take 10 years to sign up, register, blah blah blah - Original Message - From: Mink, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:50 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures Indeed I do...never leave home without it : ) Why do you ask, and where are you going with this? My understanding comes from Matt Chotin's reply to my previous post entitled, Calling a WebService solely through AS. His respose: -- Not supported in Flex 1.5, supported in an upcoming version. Matt - I was told by others that there was a way to do it, but the fact that it wasn't supported or intended, I opted not to pursue it (it did not seem all that simple). From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:46 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures Got a WSDL? - Original Message - From: Mink, Joseph mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures You mean after the mxml has been compiled? It's been a month or so since I attacked that particular problem, but as I remember it, there was no straight-forward (intended) way to dynamically instantiate WebService objects. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JesterXL Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 9:20 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures They don't have to be. Have you looked into the webservice classes? - Original Message - From: Mink, Joseph mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 7:52 AM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures I'm not totally sure what you mean, but I assume you are asking how well Flex supports object oriented programming. If that is your question, my answer would be that it supports it quite well. I'm a C++ Java programmer way before I'm a make-shift RIA developer. Flex/Flash's ActionScript is very mature compared to what I expected it to be, and I've been able to employ most of the design patterns and approaches that I typically use in other, more complex languages. There are a few hang-ups with the fact that, for example, WebService objects need to be declared statically, outside of ActionScript (which was frustrating), but it's nothing that can't be dealt with and worked around. There's a quick opinion, for whatever it's worth! From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc Teichtahl Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 11:57 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Highly classful architectures Dear All, We are currently evaluating the possibilities to use Flex in our key internal support systems. As part of the evaluation we are looking specifically at a highly classful implementation and archictecture. I would be very curious for any feedback (pros/cons) etc in relation to using Flex in such a high polymorphic
[flexcoders] Any Flex developers/consultants in Minneapolis
Are there any Flex developers/consultants in Minneapolis (or in the Minnesota area)? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [flexcoders] Questions, Questions
Could you expand on/list these unpleasant limitations? I'm one of these small companies trying to decide whether Flex is worth it. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Laudrup Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:09 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Questions, Questions Flex server is only a presentation layer that runs on top of your current J2EE/.NET app. There is no diff between a flex app and any other J2EE app in the way the app is deployed... Per my understanding when develop a j2ee app that uses Flex as presentation layer, then you'll have to pay for Flex license in order to deploy the app... and the price might vary it was 12k/2cpu a while back but know is more expensive the good news is that MM is willing to negotiate with you and probably you'll get something that will work out well for you. For short I'm afraid that you cannot run a flex app without paying a runtime license fee... nice huh... way to go JSF... In my opinion the cost of the license might be a show stopper for many small companies that want to develop/deploy flex applications. In addition to the license cost you need to consider some unpleasant limitations this product has and see if for the money you pay you get what you needwhich probably you already did. So, welcome to the dark side... Michael __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Questions, Questions
Im more interested in the unpleasant limitations of Flex. I can then weigh these against whatever price. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Bullotta Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:26 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Questions, Questions One last time: If you are an ISV or OEM, call Macromedia to discuss your SPECIFIC application needs in terms of pricing. They are very open to working creatively with partners in this aspect, but youll never know unless you call. - Rick From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Schneider Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:22 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Questions, Questions Could you expand on/list these unpleasant limitations? I'm one of these small companies trying to decide whether Flex is worth it. Thanks, Jim Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Newbie: Flash vs. Flex, CPUs, Lazslo
1. Could someone explain (or point me to a doc/faq) that tells me why I would choose Flex over Flash. What can Flex do that Flash can't? Even if it's more difficult in Flash, perhaps it's worth it given the cost of Flex. 2. Speaking of cost, I read on MM's site that they recommend a typical deployment of a Flex app have 6 - 8 CPUs. Is this true in practice? If I have an app that has 50 users (would grow to perhaps 10K users) who don't hit the system very hard, what are CPU requirements? Are there any performance benchmarks that I can use as a guideline for what I would need initially and at what point I would need to upgrade. As a small company, we can probably chew off $12K, $70K is another story (unless I misunderstand the licensing). 3. Has anyone had any real-world experience/lessons-learned with Laszlo and any comparisons with Flex? Thanks Jim Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
