RE: [flexcoders] Ok, now a problem with creating a new CF Remoting Project

2006-07-04 Thread Richard Kroll












This is a known issue with the flex
builder. I was just at CFUnited, and the adobe folks knew that there was a
problem with the plugin / builder if you are not using the built in server.
The workaround they gave me was to create a standard flex project then right
click on the project and go to compiler properties, then add -locale
en_US -services
C:\CFusionMX7\wwwroot\WEB-INF\flex\flex-enterprise-services.xml.
They told me this is the only difference between the default flex project and a
coldfusion remoting project.



HTH,

Rich
 Kroll

Application Developer











From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nick Collins
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:27
PM
To: flexcoders
Subject: [flexcoders] Ok, now a
problem with creating a new CF Remoting Project











Trying to
create a new Flex Project using the Coldfusion Flash Remoting Service. First
problem is it does not pull the server address from the RDS settings as I would
expect. It keeps trying to access the CF standalone server on port 8500, which
I do not use. 

On my development machine I have CF installed connected to IIS. So I uncheck
the use local coldfusion server, since it's not actually accessing my local
coldfusion server correctly, and changed the root URL to just be  http://localhost/ as should be correct.
However, it won't validate the location of C:\CFusionMX7\wwwroot,
which is where I have coldfusion installed and where the WEB-INF/flex folder
resides. However, it tells me it's an invalid server root and won't let me
procede. 

When I use the Coldfusion CRUD Application Wizard things work flawlessly so I
know all is good with my server configuration. Anyone know what might be the
cause of the issue? Thanks!

Nick






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RE: [flexcoders] app startup / load times

2006-07-03 Thread Richard Kroll
Hank,
One thing you have to keep in mind is that Flex 2.0 is tailored to web
*applications* instead of to web sites.  When a user starts up a typical
application, a 8-10 second delay prior to the application to start up is
not an unusually long delay for startup.  Most Flex apps that I've seen
to date are starting up in the 3-5 second range, which I believe is
completely acceptable.  I'm not saying that people will not use flex to
create websites, but I think that a lot of the power that is offered by
the platform will not be used, and will potentially bloat the file size
of the site (I'm not positive if the flex platform will dynamically
remove unused classes, someone have input?).

HTH,
Rich Kroll
Application Developer


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 10:37 PM
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Subject: [flexcoders] app startup / load times

For the first time since I started playing with flex (a couple of
weeks) I checked out the size of my app, which is currently 477k.

My app isnt that big, so I presume most of that is just the size of
the framework. I am just wondering what do people think about that in
terms of user start up time. For a user with a 500kbps connection that
is about 8 seconds before the app is loaded. Are people doing loaders
to get things started? is there an accepted strategy for how to deal
with this?

There was another thread recently about how people shouldnt use flex
for websites and one person provided aesthetic reasons. In my mind, if
there is a reason (and I am not arguing that there is) but if there is
a reason not to use it for websites it would be the file size. 10
seconds seems like a long time to make someone wait before they see
something. On the other hand perhaps I am underestimating the average
connection speed.

Anyway, like I said I would just like to get peoples thoughts on this
issue.

Hank 


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RE: [flexcoders] app startup / load times

2006-07-03 Thread Richard Kroll


Hank,
Think of what you are trying to accomplish, and how each fits into your
overall business.  It seems to me as though you are trying to merge your
application with the more marketing related website that sells it.  If
you look at these two things as distinct entities, it makes much more
sense to separate these into separate files with their own source code,
progress bars, (potentially) domains, etc.  This would reduce the load
time for users just coming to check out your software, and have the
additional benefit of keeping your source for the app completely
separate from the code you use to sell it.

HTH,
Rich


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of hank williams
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 9:01 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] app startup / load times

On 7/3/06, Richard Kroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hank,
 One thing you have to keep in mind is that Flex 2.0 is tailored to web
 *applications* instead of to web sites.

This is the rub. I am doing an application, but I am debating as to
whether to put the intro stuff into a separate flash app so that the
website part of my stuff can open more quickly. Most applications
still need the website-ish stuff to tell the user why they should care
and what the app is.

Basically I am wondering whether I really need to go through that
extra effort of making a separate thing in order to improve startup
performance. I *really* dont want to. I am lazy. And flex would allow
me to do that intro so much easier. But if the startup time is really
annoying to people I dont want to loose potential users because the
startup was too slow.

Now that flex is mainstream, I am sure lots of people are dealing with
or thinking about similar issues so I just wanted to get peoples
thoughts. I'm really hoping people will convince me not to worry about
it, but I am open to being convinced that I need to do a two stage
site.

When a user starts up a typical
 application, a 8-10 second delay prior to the application to start up
is
 not an unusually long delay for startup. Most Flex apps that I've seen
 to date are starting up in the 3-5 second range, which I believe is
 completely acceptable.

I agree that 3-5 seconds is totally ok. I have no idea what the real
world experience will be for most people and 8-10 seconds was just a
guess based on file size and guesses about the low end of average
connection speeds.

Regards
Hank 


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RE: [flexcoders] RDS Problem

2006-06-29 Thread Richard Kroll










Just had this problem and the solution is
rather easy:



Head to preferences in Eclipse / Flex2
Builder and select RDS Configuation. Then select the Currently
Configured RDS Server and ensure the hostname / port is correct as well
as the RDS password is set.



My current config that works for me is:



Host Name: 127.0.0.1

Port: 80 (8500 if you are using the dev edition
with no other web server)



Once I set this up I could access all the
RDS featuers.



HTH,

Rich











From:
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Smith
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006
10:29 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] RDS Problem











I'm getting and error when attempting to configure RDS
in Flex 
2 unable to connect to RDS Server. I have CFMX7 with the latest 
june 28 update running on win 2003 and iis 6, flex data services with 
integrated jrun (june 28). RDS works fine for dreamweaver 8 with the 
same settings I'm trying in flex. 






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