[flexcoders] Re: Really complex buttons (aka what WPF got right)
I've been learning/doing a bit of WPF, Silverlight and Flex. Agree with alot of points discussed so far. I think Adobe (IMHO) should take some ideas from XAML like data templates, templates, style triggers etc. They should make some sort of a native XML dialect in the Flash Player (like Silverlight) for primative graphics, shapes, media and common base controls like buttons and textboxes. Then higher level frameworks like Flex can sit on top of it, so you get composition, can define vector graphics etc in XML etc if you want etc (this would probably reduce the size of the Flex framework and unify things between the flash and flex world a bit). I think both WPF and Silveright are missing a high level framework like Flex to build RIAs and Enterprise Applications quickly and easily and Flash is missing a low level XML dialect to do things like composition or styling in XML etc. Maybe Microsoft and Adobe should merge? (joking). cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, borekbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ely It's great to hear directly from a Flex developer! I would like to take a chance and share my views while you listen :) I must stress again that I'm fairly new to Flex but maybe that can be a good thing now - I can see all the problems very clearly because I often don't have enough experience to find adequate solutions. Here are few assorted comments that expand on our discussion. 1) I used WPF in the title where I should have used XAML instead, my apologies. But I hope it was obvious what I meant from the code sample. 2) I really don't know why is this but both you and Aral Balkan (in a blog post I saw the other day) seem to suggest that MXML is more Notepad-friendly than XAML. In my personal experience, from the application developer point of view, these formats are in almost 1:1 relationship when you leave aside the fact that you can express vector graphics and many other things, like 3D or text documents, in XAML. If all you need are layout containers, form controls, buttons, assets and other common things, you'll end up with almost the same XML markup whichever technology you use. With one exception XAML allows for much better composability as was pointed in the Button example before. 3) I'm glad you brought up the concepts of power and simplicity which is very important in many aspects of software development. What Microsoft achieved with XAML is something like a miracle in my eyes they achieved *both*. Please compare the Button example that I posted before with (the truly excellent) CanvasButton component [http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/06/01/new-component-canvasbutton-added-to-flexlib/] Doug brilliantly created in a few moments. To quickly compare both versions: * XAML-like and MXML snippets are now almost the same. I still prefer XAML version better because it uses the standard Button while MXML uses CanvasButton. You can say right now what Button does but you will need to slightly investigate CanvasButton if you wish to use it. This is added complexity. * In XAML, there is no code required. * In Flex, you need to distribute and maintain separate component. In XAML, you don't. All three points mean that in Flex, you have less power and need more skills/effort. 4) I can't comment on performance since I don't really understand the internals of Flex compilers etc. But I can hardly imagine how the serialization format, or whether you use direct XML notation or a custom container that then holds some child components, can influence the performance any significantly. But you used this argument twice so there may be some issues. 5) The more I think about Adobe's and Microsoft's serialization formats, the more I believe that Flex is much closer to ASP.NET/WebForms declarative language than to XAML. With WebForms markup, you have similar concepts of user and custom controls (first for simple scenarios and defined in markup, second for arbitrarily complicated components but defined in code), you have similar limitation etc. XAML is really a next gen programming language and I don't feel that MXML is there yet. In conclusion I don't want this to be a useless rant. I very much like Flex as a platform ActionScript is a really nice language and the framework seems to do what it's intended for. I even like MXML much better that var b:Button = new Button() :) But I want to see it improving even further. To be honest, I thought that the development on the Flex platform will be quicker it was all fine until I needed to have slightly more complicated tab in the TabNavigator. In WPF, I would simply carry on composing the UI while in Flex, I've lost much time investigating how to work around the technical limitations of mx:Button. There can be some technical problems like performace (as mentioned above) but I also understand that it may be simply too difficult to implement something like XAML there, the
[flexcoders] Single Flex Client connecting to both .NET/J2EE middleware
Does anyone know if its possible to have a Flex Client which uses remoting (RPC style) to connect to a .NET backend using WebOrb etc and a J2EE backend using Flash-remoting or FDS 2? e.g. the Flex client is talks both to a J2EE evironment and a .NET one cheers
[flexcoders] Flex Builder 2.0.1 Trial
Is this available? I seem to bet getting the old when I download I try to download the trial.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Marketing
Ideas from Adobe employees like these might help convince ur I.T CEO, Managers, Clients etc and show examples of what people are doing with Flex. http://www.onflex.org/ted/2006/12/surfacing-flex.php http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/ --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dorkie dork from dorktown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree Paul for the most part but at the same time I have two theories on it. 1. It's the little dogs that bark the loudest. The big dogs don't have to. If Adobe / Macromedia team is confident in their work then word of mouth will spread it. It will get a reputation by virtue of its value. 2. The campaigns they've launched, labs.adobe.com, dev center, support groups, developer relations, component developer relations, etc are all actions that say they are laying the groundwork and foundation for things to come. I would say they are building the Flex ecosystem among the current Flash / Flex / ColdFusion developer community before inviting those that are not already part of it. And then I disagree with my point number one. The web is very large. Getting the word out there for people to know that it exists is important. Many do not know about it. So marketing is important. But I do not like some tactics in Marketing. In most marketing they are sleazy and deceptive. Advertisers promote something that in reality what it is not. So they may be waiting for a time when they think it is ready and matured to a point they want to then go for it. If it was me, when I thought it was ready, I would aim at making Flex known and what it does for you without glamorization. But as Tariq said, if no one knows about it they do not feel safe adopting it. The only way I've got my Flex app in the door is because I knew the project manager. He had never heard of Flex. If Flex was mentioned in Java Developers journal magazines he would know about it. Everyone was expecting me to do AJAX. They thought that was hot s**t. :P They didnt know that Flex / Flash had any sort of capabilites similar to ajax. @Matt Chotin - So where do they hear about other technologies? Are they reading certain publications? Blogs? When they talk about other technologies do they actually know what they're talking about or is it just repeating the buzz? Other developers at work hear about technology through Java Conferences, magazines (JDJ), word of mouth, blogs. The project managers and his boss' conception of Flash was flashy animation and games. Friends who are not programmers know all about ajax from digg and tech feeds. One friend was all stoked about ajax and web 2.0 and crap like that and I had to explain it all to him. Those outside of the industry are mostly repeating the buzz. Now, once you get their attention with marketing and buzz words and ability you have one more hurdle to overcome before adoption. The entry point is rather steep as well. For all it can do it's definately worth it but, it still remains out of the reach of many. Flex Elements may help an early adoption rate especially to cross over developers from Java, HTML, AJAX, who are wary of such a huge investment. Sorry to get off the marketing topic but I believe it is related. Either that or give many of the popular tech blogs a promotion code to put on their site for Flex Builder for 100% off or something. On 10/4/06, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it just me that thinks Adobe is doing fine just as they are? I think the real Flex breakthroughs will come as developers start releasing clever apps and people start saying holy s**t. I happen to think that the developer support by Adobe (and Macromedia before them) is phenomenal. Flex will move forward quietly until it hits it's tipping point, then adoption will surge ahead. Don't worry too much about promoting Flex - let your applications do that for you. Paul - Original Message - *From:* Tariq Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:58 PM *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex Marketing I'd agree to that. The marketing effort seems to heavily rely on the development community doing that job for them. Things like labs and DevNet are KEY to maximizing technology adoption - but people need to know about it in the first place. To Restate Adobe's Goal: 1 000 000 Flex Developers by 2010. Some HEAVY DUTY marketing is needed. It definitely made sense to capture those who are most amiable to Flex (CF and Flash developers) first and grow from there. I think someone blogged about this before; in that of course Adobe related blogs are going to be heavy proponents for Adobe technologies. But now it's time to penetrate into the rest of the world. In polling my heavy duty tech friends in other industries, they BARELY know what Flex is. Many haven't heard of it. And some have heard of it, just because they
[flexcoders] Re: Flex help on IRC
Hey cool idea Has anyone brough up the idea of having a permanent adobe connect/breeze session for flex developers to go to to chat, exchange stuff etc? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dorkie dork from dorktown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: bump. On 11/28/06, Andrew D. Goodfellow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great idea Louie! I've been using this channel for about a day now and I'm finding it very useful. I'd definitely encourage everyone on the list to come and participate, or at least lurk. :o) -Andy On 11/27/06, Louie Penaflor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey everyone, For those of you who would like to attempt a different way of getting help, we have started a flex channel on IRC Chat called #flex. It's on efnet. Hope to see you there. Louie
[flexcoders] OT:Flex 2 adoption rates so far?
Has anyone got info on this? The lastest investor webcast didn't mention much about Flex 2 disappointly: http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/06q4analyst/ (every bit of press helps convince that skeptical client :) )
[flexcoders] Re: Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container
I guess my question was badly worded lol basically want to know the X and Y co-ordinates of a container relative to the application for example below (quick quesdo code) the x,y co-ordinates for box at the moment it'll be 0,0 coz its relative to its container and its layout is handle by the parent container (i think) so want to know how to get the actual x/y co-ordinates relative to the application as it should be more like 60,0 etc. app hbox width=100% paddingLeft=60 hbox id=box /hbox /hbox /app cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the Flash Display Objects has a class that you can only be readable for with and height percentages of monitor . Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to. - Gordon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Igor Costa Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:16 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container I guess he's trying to get the Stage not the monitor. But the Flash Display Objects has a class that you can only be readable for with and height percentages of monitor . Regards. On 10/9/06, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By screen do you mean the computer monitor, or the Flash stage? You can use the localToGlobal() method to convert to stage coordinates. I don't think you can get monitor coordinates of DisplayObjects. - Gordon From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com http://ups.com ] On Behalf Of pk_wasp Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:26 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container Hi I'm trying to find out what actual x and y co-ordinates of a container (that is inside another container) relative to the screen rather then relative to the parent container. Is there an easy way to find this out? can't seem to find anything in the docs etc cheers -- Igor Costa www.igorcosta.com http://www.igorcosta.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container
Hi I'm trying to find out what actual x and y co-ordinates of a container (that is inside another container) relative to the screen rather then relative to the parent container. Is there an easy way to find this out? can't seem to find anything in the docs etc cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] object index in data provider when binding to a control
Say i'm using a data control like a tile list etc e.g. mx:TileList dataProvider={someData} itemRenderer=ItemTest /mx:TileList in ItemTest we get the reference to the object via the data property/variable, is there anyway to get the index of where this object is in the collection? cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Knowledge Aggregation PREVIOUS: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
Mailing list/forum hybrid sounds good :) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mika Kiljunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A definitive YES vote from me. -- Mika _ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vinny Timmermans Sent: 30. toukokuuta 2006 12:39 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Knowledge Aggregation PREVIOUS: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment This Flexcoders list is a very valuable resource for every Flex developer, RIA consultant etc.. The bad thing however, it has a number of usability defects - ever done a search? - most of them due to the generic nature of the yahoo groups. Furthermore it does not integrate with the Adobe knowledgebase. In short: high quality content, low quality user experience The Adobe forums on the other hand are a better experience to work with. However, although they allow you to subscribe to a rss feed, do not have regular email subscription as a feature (at least I haven't found it) A simple suggestion: add regular email subscription to the Adobe forums, move/transfer the flexcoders list to the Adobe forums and integrate the Flexcoders/Flex Forums with the Adobe knowledgbase. No more searching in different places. A single high quality information source for everything Flex related. Like all other simple suggestion it needs some work :-) Vinny P.S. Now Steven has become an Adobe employee I am sure he loves this idea ;-) -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Web+site+design+developmentw1=Web+site +design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+desig n+and+ developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec =5s=1 66.sig=L-4QTvxB_quFDtMyhrQaHQ site design development Computer http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Computer+software+developmentw1=Web+si te+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+des ign+an d+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practice c=5s =166.sig=lvQjSRfQDfWudJSe1lLjHw software development Software http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Software+design+and+developmentw1=Web+ site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+d esign+ and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practi cec=5 s=166.sig=1pMBCdo3DsJbuU9AEmO1oQ design and development Macromedia http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Macromedia+flexw1=Web+site+design+deve lopmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Software+design+and+develo pment w4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+practicec=5s=166.si g=OO6n PIrz7_EpZI36cYzBjw flex Software http://groups.yahoo.com/gads? t=msk=Software+development+best+practicew1=W eb+site+design+developmentw2=Computer+software+developmentw3=Softwar e+desi gn+and+developmentw4=Macromedia+flexw5=Software+development+best+pra ctice c=5s=166.sig=f89quyyulIDsnABLD6IXIw development best practice _ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Service. _ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
whats wrong with using the official Adobe forums? :) the Adobe Labs structure is quite cool (AS3, Flex Framework, General etc), maybe need one for Flex Components too?) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Michael Schmalle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Steven, if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! This is the problem I am struggling to explain. This wasn't entirely 'my' idea. There were many developers that expressed some interest in this. Since I am talking to you, I am sorry for posting this on flexcoders. We wouldn't be having this conversation that feels like a do while loop gone wild if I hadn't posted it. As far as my questions unanswered; I am sure engineers at Adobe are busy, this seems obvious. There still hasn't been any form of communication created better than face to face. Just walking down the trail enjoying the scenery and ahh, wasp nest, run! Thanks for you time Steven, Mike On 5/29/06, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael, You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck ! My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since this list first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple lists ... and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on flexcoders become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no immediate benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate lists. Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we receive 100 messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, doesn't make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any more difficult. I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 component development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on these topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed generally to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd expect it's more likely because individuals were busy, rather than uninterested or unable. Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire flexcoders community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable future, we expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll continue to moderate, monitor and support it as before. If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate and support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the better ! Flex Component development is something I anticipate really taking off with the release of Flex 2. Best wishes and best of luck with your list, Steven *Sent:* 29 May 2006 16:35 *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Steven, I have a question; Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition about 2 months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met. I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let us play off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at questions of a list completly related to components and the framework see only questions about framework programming. I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, comming from a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly necessary and for the most part required. If I am nieve, I will learn. Thanks, Mike On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess they have been created now. I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and consultants input on these lists. I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 specific list. -- *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Steven Webster *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AM *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment Guys, The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon as they fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our time to keep track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be it 1.5, 2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is not suitable for posting here. The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is where there are hundreds of posts
[flexcoders] Re: AJAX versus Flex
I don't think its particularly hard to convince internal management to consider Flex as a viable RIA/Enterprise solution. The main problem/resistance we are finding is from our clients/customers opposing I.T architects who either get upset if we suggest Flex as a solution, or say they never heard of Flex and want an Ajax solution instead. I think its partly Flash's animation legacy + ignorance/lack of awareness of Flex and the Flash Platform. So I wonder if maybe the Flash Platform needs a reboot/rebranding e.g. a new runtime without legacy code (but obviously Flash Player 9 will still be around for legacy stuff) and a new name :). I mean Microsoft are essentially doing this through WPF/E. Also I think for the Flash Platform to be a true platform, it really needs a platform XML dialect for UIs - which is what XAML is for WPF and WPF/E. Would be great to able to export content created in Flash Authoring in some form of XML UI dialect and use it in the Flex Framework, Apollo, Flashlite etc. Just my 2c, have really enjoyed learning Flex 2, guys (Java and .NET developers) at work were impressed, but definitely agree that Ajax is getting alot of hype and it seems to be working e.g. our customers are talking about Ajax but not about Flex or Flash. I hope when Flex 2 goes live, there's a big marketing campaign + lots of real world stories of Flex being used in RIAs, Web 2.0 Apps and Internal Enterprise Applications so that our customers can see its a viable option. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, jwc_wensan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To all: Got this email today, http://ajax.sys-con.com/ and it got me to thinking. I may get blasted for this, but here goes . . . just my .0199 cents. Let me first say I believe 100% that the Flex platform is a better mousetrap. I am currently developing applications with Flex. I prefer Flex. However, you can not open a software magazine, newsletter, journal, article, etc. that doesn't reference something about AJAX. It's everywhere. Adobe's Flex gets an honorable mention. I have been in the software business for over 27 years. I have seen many companies come and go that had a better mousetrap. I also realize that most end users do not care if a desktop app is developed with Visual C++ or Visual Basic. So why would they care what a RIA app is developed with. Probably not. In the end it is the application not the engine. There seems to be a parallel between PCs with Windows and Apple/Macs. Many believe that the Mac is better, but Apple/Mac has less the 5% of the market. Can Adobe accept 5% market share? You also can not under estimate the impact when Microsoft releases Atlas. And no Robert I don't want to hear about how you hate MS or the evil empire. Fact is, tens of thousands of developers will and I say will use their product. What this also does is make it more difficult for developers to convince management that the Flex product is better. Especially when all they hear is AJAX this and AJAX that. AJAX is getting all the hype. Right or wrong these are the facts. They have essentially taken over the RIA landscape and claimed it as their own. My point . . . . Adobe you need to step up to the plate. If you think you can wait, then by the time you start you will be too far behind. You will be left behind always playing catch-up. If you want to reach that 1 million developer goal, it needs to start now. To be better and say you are better is not enough. If the industry has already declared AJAX as the RIA industry leader then it becomes too late. From a market perception, look how AJAX has evolved in the last year. Compare that to Adobe Flex. Adobe you are asking developers to make a commitment to you, well I think you need to increase your commitment to us. Now is the time to promote to the industry and the general public as a whole about the value of Flex. Again, just my opinion. Sincerely, Jack -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: AJAX versus Flex
MXML is more of an application framework XML language e.g. you can't define low level graphics such as shapes, gradients etc via markup like you can with XAML. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jim Robson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also I think for the Flash Platform to be a true platform, it really needs a platform XML dialect for UIs - Isn't that what MXML is? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex Component Directory
Will we be able to access this component exchange through eclipse? then just drag and drop the components we want to buy/use onto the Flex Builder component palette :) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Ben Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love the idea of an open source development approach for components. Adobe would be happy to help with you that. Our plans to support component development are consolidate to 3 key areas. 1) In Flex 2 we include a developer guide on creating and extending components. We are also planning a whitepaper on component design theory. 2) We are building a simpler version of a component exchange based on the exchanges that already exist on Adobe.com today - our plan is to add more features over time to this, as we learn more about what the community wants. It is not our intent to resell the components but we would provide hosting for trial version or free components and link out to your sites to purchase, or so that users can find out more, get updates, etc... 3) We are planning a component developer summit in June with tracks for both visual components and data/sytem level components. We will host the developers in San Francisco in person as well as online. The summit and the content that we provide there, and on the site after that, should help a lot with deeper requirements for understanding the framework and our roadmap. Please let me know if you would be interested in attending this. There are quite a few developers already building and planning to ship components and we are pretty jazzed by some of the early stuff we are seeing. If you have thoughts on how you think we should approach this or would like to contribute to or participate in our efforts, or would like us to help you with what you are planning, then please let me know! Ben watson-at-adobe-dot-com Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Are we talking about a site that allows component creators to post their components, go through and approval process, then be added to a catalog, be compensated for purchase; maybe affiliate programs also? Kelly @ Dekayd Media Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would use it and would be willing to help implement it or host it if necessary. I could definitely contribute to it. Thanks --Kelly -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of oca_gw Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 1:42 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Component Directory I've been working on a web application that is free to subscribe to and use, that would allow people to post and comment on Flex Components. The site is loosely modelled off SourceForge in functionality, and will allow the following features: Create a project Add files (mark releases) Add news / messages Have many developers for one Project/ Component Searchable listing and more... There are some basic details on my little blog: http://graham.weldon.ath.cx/blog/?p=8 There will also be a Wiki for this appearing this week. Is anyone interested in seeing this up? With support and suggestions, I can put more effort in and get the basic site running sooner, rather than later. I know personally I would love a central database of flex components that allows people to freely post components for download. I am interested to see who would use this. Let me know Regards, Graham Weldon -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group flexcoders on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 Beta 3 download
damm, I still can't download it :( any mirrors?...the Flex word must be going around i remember downloading Flex 2 Alpha at full speed when it just came out lol --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Helen Triolo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto -- been trying for the past 12 hours with no luck :( Helen pk_wasp wrote: Are people having problems downloading it? I've turn off download managers etc, but keep getting Cannot find server or DNS Error if i click on any of the download links. (or are the servers getting hammered)? cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Fully expand a Tree (Flex 2 Beta 2)
Is there a property or method to fully expand a tree after its been created? can't find anything in the docs, apart from using setIsOpen which I guess means walking through the whole tree? cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Fully expand a Tree (Flex 2 Beta 2)
cool thanks, it worked. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Clint Modien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some code on Jeff's blog to open all nodes on a tree... http://jeff.mxdj.com/disabling_a_tree_node_in_a_flex_tree_control.htm On 5/5/06, pk_wasp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a property or method to fully expand a tree after its been created? can't find anything in the docs, apart from using setIsOpen which I guess means walking through the whole tree? cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Validation framework and changing the way tooltips get triggered (F2B2)
At the moment the validators will highlight a field in error and if you mouse over it, it will display the error message. Is it possible (this could be a feature request if its not too late :) ), to select the way this is triggered?. Rather then just only having the mouseOver event triggering the display of the error message tooltips, allow other events to trigger it as well e.g. when a users tabs to a field that is in error, we can show the error message tooltip on a focusIn event - this might be handy for Call Centre Applications where users tend to prefer to use the keyboard rather then the mouse etc. maybe a displayTriggerEvent attribute in the validators or something :) cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: OpenGL vs DirectX / Vista vs. Flash Player 9 MS comments about Flash re Vista
Have you got a link to this video? Are you talking about WinFX (with WPF/WCF etc) and WPF/E? 3D hardware acceleration stuff is pretty tricky with all the drivers, low level stuff to worry about, think thats why WPF is only going to be on Windows Platform and WPF/E will be non-3d so it can run on other platforms But seeing Macromedia (Adobe) probably made one of the easiest plug- ins/runtime to install, I'm sure they'll be able to deliver a true cross platform hardware accelerated WPF type runtime one day :) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PRE-TEXT: Just some encouragement. You guys at Adobe are smart and I know you can put in a DirectX like API that is perhaps a triggered add-on to the normal Flash Player, something that says This site includes high-end real time graphics; do you want to download the OpenGL Flash Player support extension? I just saw a Video this morning after reading Dvorak's article that IE is now an albatross due to their loss to Eolas in December and the 11th of this month requiring a huge change to ActiveX control interaction. The video was a cross link and discussed the lack of real 3D with texturing etc. (DirectX) in Flash and a hint that our technology you can't do on a browser. Well, you can in an ActiveX control but now that's Screwed :-) So Vista WinFX and the Macintosh Viewer (i.e. not designer app) will be this coming Headon Collision between Adobe and Microsoft. I just want to encourage the FLEX and Flash 9 developers to try and bust Mickeysoft's bubble when it comes to the fact that they are an old man who is slowly dying -- they will be kept alive for a long time by their Cash Reserve which, some say has a lot of money in it through dirty tricks -- but in the end, I believe Adobe will come out ahead. Again, the FLEX group and FLASH group are full of very smart guys enough so to put in a DirectX like API that is perhaps a triggered add-on to the normal Flash Player, something that says This site includes high-end real time graphics; do you want to download the OpenGL Flash Player support extension? -r -r - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2.0 b2: Data binding
think u can only using the mx:Binding / tags or for an AS3 only option use event listeners/dispatchers? don't think u can do binding programatically like u can in WPF (though Flex is alot easier when it comes to data binding :) ). --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, tyombria [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. How can I use data binding in as3 code, not in mxml? For example, in mxml: Button enabled={someDataGrid.selectedItem} / How can I rewrite it in as code: var b : Button = new Button(); ? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way?
RPC style calls to do CRUD Yep :) or at least a consistent Flash Remoting framework for all the major server-side platforms (PHP, Ruby, .NET etc) Think one of the reasons why ASP.NET, Ruby on Rails etc is gaining coz its easy to do RPC style CRUD stuff .so Flex 2(which makes rich UIs easy) + all that server side Flex API/Framework to connect to webservices and do RPC style CRUDs - should help attract heaps of developers over :) cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want RPC style calls to do CRUD but no synchronization logic? Well we'll have it for CF because Mystic has the adapter. We'll have to do more research into the value of us providing for all of the different backends, but I'm sure there are folks thinking about it. Matt -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pk_wasp Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 5:37 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way? Sounds interesting Will there ever be a non messaging version of Data Service (e.g. just for RPC type functionality)? Would be cool to have some sort of Flex framework to do CRUD type operations like Data Services and is server agnostic on the backend (so server-side plugins/APIs for PHP, Ruby on Rails, J2EE, .NET, Coldfusion etc, but the Flex client-side code is the same regardless of middle tier technology) cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote: In Beta 3 we'll be providing more APIs that allow you to tell the DataService that a change has happened on the server and it will push changes to the clients who would care. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Bray Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:47 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way? Basically, I want my Flex clients to subscribe to data destinations and receive updates that are cause by server-side processes. Do I need to use both services? In other words, do a DataService.fill() upon app initialization and then again any time I receive a message from a separate message service destination? To use a Flash Communication Server analogy, I can have my Flash clients connect to a Remote SharedObject and then have the server occasionally make a remoting call and update that SharedObject which pushes the changes out to the clients. I need a way to do this in FDS. Thanks! -Tom -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS *Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. *To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe *Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way?
Sounds interesting Will there ever be a non messaging version of Data Service (e.g. just for RPC type functionality)? Would be cool to have some sort of Flex framework to do CRUD type operations like Data Services and is server agnostic on the backend (so server-side plugins/APIs for PHP, Ruby on Rails, J2EE, .NET, Coldfusion etc, but the Flex client-side code is the same regardless of middle tier technology) cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Beta 3 we'll be providing more APIs that allow you to tell the DataService that a change has happened on the server and it will push changes to the clients who would care. Matt From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Bray Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:47 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way? Basically, I want my Flex clients to subscribe to data destinations and receive updates that are cause by server-side processes. Do I need to use both services? In other words, do a DataService.fill() upon app initialization and then again any time I receive a message from a separate message service destination? To use a Flash Communication Server analogy, I can have my Flash clients connect to a Remote SharedObject and then have the server occasionally make a remoting call and update that SharedObject which pushes the changes out to the clients. I need a way to do this in FDS. Thanks! -Tom -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group flexcoders http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ . -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] drag and drop components between cells in a datagrid
Is it possible to have a DataGrid with custom item renderer components and drag/drop them between the indvidual cells using DragManager/Proxy Framework etc? or is there a better way?.e.g. a Grid, then using addChild/removeChild etc to handle this? Creating a custom grid component looks too daunting lol cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flash Media 2 Server + Flex 2 (Beta 2) connection problem
Trying to run this sample http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=100 which works fine on localhost using nc.connect(rtmp://localhost/flex_videoconference); but if if i change localhost to my server name (so other test machines on the LAN can see it) I'm getting Unhandled NetStatusEvent: level=error, code=NetConnection.Connect.Failed errors Do I need to add some sort of cross domain policy file? (either in Flex or FMS 2) and how do i go about doing this? The Flex App is running off FDS (the JRun integrated version) cheers -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Salary Check
Maybe if it involves a J2EE backend, charge as per J2EE developer If you know Flash Authoring + a Designer as well add more? btw, is Flex growing at an alarming rate??, doesn't seem like it at the moment to be honest --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With Flex growing an alaming rate,I wanted to a check with the community regarding salary rates (both contract and W-2). I've been coding in Flex 1.5 for over a year and have worked with the Beta for a month or two. I am quite confident in my skills and easily landed a $70/hour gig as a contractor. I also have been a back-end Java developer for the last 5 years. Having said that, job offers are starting to pour in for Flex work and they demand to know a salary rate first. I'm a bit hesitant to scare off employers with lower to mid 6-digit salary requirements so I thought I'd ping the community first. I'm based on the US east coast. Anyone have any thoughts? I apologize to the community if they don't like this question in the technical forum...I just thought it would help since there isn't any really anywhere else to go for help on this. Thanks. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: flex 2 integration with .net web service
err hopefully i'm not off topic but in Visual Studios, they make it easy to handle stuff like this e.g if you want to use a webservice that has complex types, it'll generate proxy objects (web references) for you to use so your web service calls are almost like normal methods/objects in your code e.g. a client (e.g. an ASP.NET app) can call a webservice through generated proxy objects: Demo_WS ws = new Demo_WS(); ComplexModel model = ws.getMyComplexModel(); txtFirstName.Text = model.FirstName; etc etc Is anyone planning a Flex type plugin for Ecilspe to do something similar? it'll make consuming web serivces quite trivial :) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know .NET that well, can you take a HashMap or something similar as the parameter into the web service? You'd then just create the object and pass it as the single param to the service. Matt -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nmsflex Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:24 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] flex 2 integration with .net web service Hi there! i'm playing around with flex 2 beta last two month, then i love it but i have hard time to find details document about passing complex object from flex to .net web service. There have very good couple articles discuss about it but no one can explain deeply detail how this integration part work.simple Example. at client side i have 3 field data need to pass to web service. 1. first name. 2. last name. after i get this information from user , then i create my own xml format register userfirstnamefirst name/userfirstname userlastnamelast name/userlastname /register then i have to covert this to string xml then passing it that's the way i work right now. at back end i have function to receive string xml for input. My question is: is any way i can pass real xml object into web service tags in flex 2 and then at back - end i use XmlDocument parameter for input. if it is possible? then how exactly it work. i know in flex 2 i can write as3 function to call web service and passing object for parameter input but after i pass that object then what happen? i'm really looking for documents for this. thanks for you help. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 and FMS 2 for audio conferencing application
cool thanks, will give this a go. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Brian Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, audio and video streaming seem to work. For example to play a stream: private function play():void{ if(_inStream) _inStream.close(); // Create the stream: _inStream = new NetStream(_nc); // Setup the listeners: _inStream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, netStatus); _inStream.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR, netSecurityError); // Play the stream and show the video: _inStream.play(_streamName); _video.attachNetStream(_inStream); } And to publish a stream: private function publish():void{ if (_outStream ) _outStream.close(); _outStream = new NetStream(_nc); _outStream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, netStatus); _outStream.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR, netSecurityError); // Capture video and publish it _camera = Camera.getCamera(); if(_camera){ _camera.setMode(160, 120, 6, true); _outStream.attachCamera(_camera); _video.attachCamera(_camera); } _microphone = Microphone.getMicrophone(); if(_microphone){ _outStream.attachAudio(_microphone); } } Yours truly, -Brian pk_wasp wrote: I want to build a simple audio conferencing Flex 2 (Beta 2) application (just people using their microphone) with Flash Media Server 2 Does anyone have any examples/links/documentation to do this sort of thing? (if its possible) and is the microphone working with this Flash Player 8.5 now? searching through the archive found this: http://www.mail- archive.com/flexcoders@yahoogroups.com/msg19222.html thanks -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- __ Brian Lesser Assistant Director, Teaching and Technology Support Computing and Communications Services Ryerson University 350 Victoria St. Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 979-5000 ext. 6835 M5B 2K3Fax: (416) 979-5220 Office: AB48D E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Enter through LB66) Web: http://www.ryerson.ca/~blesser __ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] JMS in FDS 2 and Flex examples
Does anyone here (or will be it possible for Adobe in future releases to provide) have more complex examples of JMS/FDS 2 and Flex? Data Services in FDS 2 seem pretty straight forward to use (very nice actually), but personally not that familiar with JMS given its not something you would normally associate with Web Applications :). Something I would like to see as an example is a more advance chat JMS Application which can create chat rooms, manage connections, handle private messages between individual Flex client connections and so on. Any chance of Adobe providing something like this in the future? :), or does anyone know of a JMS example like this somewhere? thanks. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Flex 2 and FMS 2 for audio conferencing application
I want to build a simple audio conferencing Flex 2 (Beta 2) application (just people using their microphone) with Flash Media Server 2 Does anyone have any examples/links/documentation to do this sort of thing? (if its possible) and is the microphone working with this Flash Player 8.5 now? searching through the archive found this: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders@yahoogroups.com/msg19222.html thanks -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
You mean we are only allowed to discuss technical issues with Flex 1.x and Flex 2.x Beta on this mailing list? Personally I find the hardest (and most fustrating) thing with Flex is trying to sell the idea of it to management at work as a platform for building rich internal enterprise applications. On the technical side of things finding its alot easier to learn Flex 2 then various DHTML/AJAX Toolkits and Microsoft WPF...well so far anyway :). --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dos dedos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I agree re: no envangelism However, it's very helpful for some of of us to understand the context and not just the content of what we're getting into. :) Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: personally id rather not see a technology evangelism debate appear on this forum, thats a little OT for my liking. - From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jignesh Dodiya Sent: 13 March 2006 18:17 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX? Jesse has really a mature idea on this.. Don't u think, this forum can be more fruitfull if anybody from Adobe do share his/her idea on this forum. Afterall its their duty to make people encourage to use flex over AJAX, and the community always likes to hear Flex expert's comment on such intensive topic? On 3/13/06, dos dedos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yahoo has a lot of efforts inregards to Flex Flash, you just probably haven't read about them, isall, or they didn't get as widely publicized. That's what I wanted to find out ... thanks forpointing it out!!! JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJAX is here, works, has a large community, is an old technology and thus has a plethora of resources. Flex 2 isn't publicy out yet in an official capacity and Flex 1.5's price point excludes a lot of those types of endeavors. Yahoo uses both; they are a big company. Yahoo Maps utilized Flex 1.5. They should of used Flash Player 8's bitmap features so it wasn't the best use of Flex, but it at least got us on the radar. They are also experiementing with updating some of the Java games to Flash. Again, neither Google nor Yahoo can utilize Flex 2 because even if they did, no one could see it. Flash Player 8.5 is beta, not publicly available, and you have to download the entire Flex 2 package just to get it (which is a good thing). Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex Flash, you just probably haven't read about them, is all, or they didn't get as widely publicized. Bottom line, AJAX is here, has been for awhile, and works. Flex 2 isn't even out yet. Sparkle's awesome, but you don't see people, even Microsoft, creating Sparkle apps. - Original Message - From: dos dedos To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:24 PM Subject: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX? Google has purchased at least one company that uses Flash or Flex (a Web analytics startup) but their own internal efforts seem to be always focused on AJAX ... e.g. the latest Google Mars ( http://www.google.com/mars/) So it's fair to wonder why Google isn't doing more with Flex at this time ... and why Flickr (Yahoo) moved from Flash to AJAX ... especially given the fact that Flex 2 has a lot going for it from technical and end-user perspectives. Attitudes change over time and new technologies take a while to adopt, but it'd be nice to understand whether or not Google, Yahoo and others are consciously resisting Flex based on some non-technical reason (e.g. the fact that Flex is a proprietary platform whereas AJAX is not.) Google's and Yahoo's position doesn't matter all that much as far as market adoption for Flex, but it would be interesting to understand the strategic reasons why Google, Yahoo and other major players (e.g. eBay) have so far prefer! red to stick with AJAX. An interesting position for Google and Yahoo would be to endorse AJAX half of the time and Flex the other half, or two thrids to one. This way they would keep the market from leaning too heavily in favor of either. But as of now, they're leaning too heavily in favor of AJAX, yet it's very possible that they'll release (or acquire) something based on Flex 2 in the future. I believe Sun has been very successful with Java on the server side ... Flex could become as popular on the client side as Java is on the server side if it's opened up in the style of the Java Community Process. Just
[flexcoders] Re: Effects - Newbie help
the text on the label won't fade coz Flex uses device fonts by default if you use embedded fonts u should see the effect does anyone know if Flex 2.0 is going to support Flash Type e.g. that new font engine in Flash Player 8 which should sort this problem out? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Brent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm having a litle trouble understanding how effects work. Apparently when you play() an effect, it is asynchronous, but I can't seem to wrap my head around a solution. I have a Timer set up. Each time it fires, I want to do the following: 1) Fade the Label to alpha=0.0 2) Change the Label text 3) Fade to alpha=1.0 So I define one mx:Fade to fade in and one to fade out. Then in my timer handler I try: fadeOut.play([salesTxt], true); salesTxt.text = cf.format(tickerData[current].value); fadeIn.play([salesTxt], true); ...but the text just pops to alpha 0.0 and then fades in. Could someone explain why this happens and what would be a good way to accomplish this? Thanks, Brent -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Bruce Eckels on Flex 2
At What point those he talk about Flex? (the mp3 is quite long lol) cheers --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cool! I knew Bruce on this list is the one Bruce Eckel, I even asked... -abdul On 3/6/06, Carlos Balacuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In an interview with Bruce Eckel (author of the books Thinking in C++ and Thinking in Java ), he talks about his positive experience with experimenting with Flash and Flex 2. You can hear this interview on the Java Posse podcast, episode #37 Interview with Bruce Eckel, Part 2 at http://www.javaposse.com/index.php?post_id=65327 - Carlos -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders% 40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] verticalGap/horizontalGap in TileList - not working?
Tried searching the forums on this (get the feeling the search feature in yahoo groups isn't as good as other forums :) ) does verticalGap or horizontalGap work for the dataProvider container TileList? tried setting values but don't seem to have the gaps showing up between each cellItem. thanks Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] On the topic of Wishlists
I know Macromedia has a page where u can submit bugs or feature request is there any pages on Macromedia site or livedocs to show what ppl have wished/requested for (thinking of filling out some feature requests for Flex 2.0 but don't really want to repeat what other people might have requested) thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Resize Effect and undefined Heights
Cool, thanks for the tip. Hope Flex 2.0 has a display:none/block type setting for containers :) --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Manish Jethani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/10/05, pk_wasp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails ); e.heightFrom = 0; e.heightTo = undefined; e.duration=750; Try this: vbxDetails.height = undefined; // set this to undefined first e.heightTo = vbxDetails.preferredHeight; vbxDetails.height = 0; // set back to 0 before effect start I expect this to work because the component recalculates its preferred height if it is set to undefined and then you can set the effect's heightTo to the preferred height. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Resize Effect and undefined Heights
Hi Wonder if any1 knows how to do this (tried using the search, but couldn't find anything) I Have a VBox container that is initally 0, and has x no of child containers/controls that could be added dynamically. When I click a button I want to play a resize effect to expand it to show the whole container but when I try the undefined trick...it doesn't work: var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails ); e.heightFrom = 0; e.heightTo = undefined; e.duration=750; Any1 able to help? vbxDetails.height = undefined (this works i think, but I want to play a nice Flex effect :) ) thanks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Resize Effect and undefined Heights
Did it in AS coz i'm trying to do a complexish Sequence Might get ride of some of that now and use effect tags instead. Thanks for the tip, it worked. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could you just assign a resizeEffect on the VBox instead of writing it in AS? mx:Effect mx:Resize name=vbxResize duration=750 / /mx:Effect mx:VBox resizeEffect=vbxResize / Something like that. _ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of pk_wasp Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:43 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Resize Effect and undefined Heights Hi Wonder if any1 knows how to do this (tried using the search, but couldn't find anything) I Have a VBox container that is initally 0, and has x no of child containers/controls that could be added dynamically. When I click a button I want to play a resize effect to expand it to show the whole container but when I try the undefined trick...it doesn't work: var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails ); e.heightFrom = 0; e.heightTo = undefined; e.duration=750; Any1 able to help? vbxDetails.height = undefined (this works i think, but I want to play a nice Flex effect :) ) thanks. _ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=Unsubscribe * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: useHandCursor
opps spelling mistake i meant useHandCursor=true from below --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, pk_wasp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I've tried using useHandCuror=true on images etc (to show a hand for MouseDown events etc) but it doesn't seem to work. Is there anyway to show a hand icon when the mouse cursor hovers over buttons, images etc? (useHandCuror=true works in Flash, compiles in Flex but doesnt' seem to go?) thanks.
Re: Row Height in Data Grid
thanks, it actually worked. my mistake. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It'd be great if you can post your code that doesn't compile. Sorry but I have no idea why rowHeight results in the error. It works for me... Thank you, -Yukari -Original Message- From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:33 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Row Height in Data Grid Hi Tried that..couldn't compile :( is there anyway to do it without using cell renderers etc? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is a rowHeight property inherited from ScrollSelectList class. mx:DataGrid rowHeight=100/ should work. Thank you, -Yukari -Original Message- From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:31 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Row Height in Data Grid Hi Does anyone know how to set the row height for data grids (not the header height) Did a search on these forums and can't find anything BTW Flex rulz showed some of my Java Peers - and for the 1st time...r interested in something Flash. cheers Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Row Height in Data Grid
Hi Tried that..couldn't compile :( is there anyway to do it without using cell renderers etc? --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, There is a rowHeight property inherited from ScrollSelectList class. mx:DataGrid rowHeight=100/ should work. Thank you, -Yukari -Original Message- From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:31 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Row Height in Data Grid Hi Does anyone know how to set the row height for data grids (not the header height) Did a search on these forums and can't find anything BTW Flex rulz showed some of my Java Peers - and for the 1st time...r interested in something Flash. cheers Yahoo! Groups Links