[flexcoders] Re: Really complex buttons (aka what WPF got right)

2007-06-04 Thread pk_wasp
I've been learning/doing a bit of WPF, Silverlight and Flex.

Agree with alot of points discussed so far.

I think Adobe (IMHO) should take some ideas from XAML like data
templates, templates, style triggers etc.

They should make some sort of a native XML dialect in the Flash Player
(like Silverlight) for primative graphics, shapes, media and common 
base controls like buttons and textboxes.

Then higher level frameworks like Flex can sit on top of it, so you
get composition, can define vector graphics etc in XML etc if you want
etc (this would probably reduce the size of the Flex framework and
unify things between the flash and flex world a bit).

I think both WPF and Silveright are missing a high level framework
like Flex to build RIAs and Enterprise Applications quickly and easily
and Flash is missing a low level XML dialect to do things like
composition or styling in XML etc.

Maybe Microsoft and Adobe should merge? (joking).

cheers

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, borekbe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Ely
 
 It's great to hear directly from a Flex developer! I would like to
 take a chance and share my views while you listen :) I must stress
 again that I'm fairly new to Flex but maybe that can be a good thing
 now - I can see all the problems very clearly because I often don't
 have enough experience to find adequate solutions. Here are few
 assorted comments that expand on our discussion.
 
 1) I used WPF in the title where I should have used XAML instead, my
 apologies. But I hope it was obvious what I meant from the code sample.
 
 2) I really don't know why is this but both you and Aral Balkan (in a
 blog post I saw the other day) seem to suggest that MXML is more
 Notepad-friendly than XAML. In my personal experience, from the
 application developer point of view, these formats are in almost 1:1
 relationship when you leave aside the fact that you can express vector
 graphics and many other things, like 3D or text documents, in XAML. If
 all you need are layout containers, form controls, buttons, assets and
 other common things, you'll end up with almost the same XML markup
 whichever technology you use. With one exception – XAML allows for
 much better composability as was pointed in the Button example before.
 
 3) I'm glad you brought up the concepts of power and simplicity
 which is very important in many aspects of software development. What
 Microsoft achieved with XAML is something like a miracle in my eyes –
 they achieved *both*. Please compare the Button example that I posted
 before with (the truly excellent) CanvasButton component

[http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/06/01/new-component-canvasbutton-added-to-flexlib/]
 Doug brilliantly created in a few moments.
 
 To quickly compare both versions:
 * XAML-like and MXML snippets are now almost the same. I still prefer
 XAML version better because it uses the standard Button while MXML
 uses CanvasButton. You can say right now what Button does but you
 will need to slightly investigate CanvasButton if you wish to use it.
 This is added complexity.
 
 * In XAML, there is no code required.
 
 * In Flex, you need to distribute and maintain separate component. In
 XAML, you don't.
 
 All three points mean that in Flex, you have less power and need more
 skills/effort.
 
 4) I can't comment on performance since I don't really understand the
 internals of Flex compilers etc. But I can hardly imagine how the
 serialization format, or whether you use direct XML notation or a
 custom container that then holds some child components, can influence
 the performance any significantly. But you used this argument twice so
 there may be some issues.
 
 5) The more I think about Adobe's and Microsoft's serialization
 formats, the more I believe that Flex is much closer to
 ASP.NET/WebForms declarative language than to XAML. With WebForms
 markup, you have similar concepts of user and custom controls (first
 for simple scenarios and defined in markup, second for arbitrarily
 complicated components but defined in code), you have similar
 limitation etc. XAML is really a next gen programming language and I
 don't feel that MXML is there yet.
 
 In conclusion…
 
 I don't want this to be a useless rant. I very much like Flex as a
 platform – ActionScript is a really nice language and the framework
 seems to do what it's intended for. I even like MXML much better that
 var b:Button = new Button() :) But I want to see it improving even
 further. To be honest, I thought that the development on the Flex
 platform will be quicker – it was all fine until I needed to have
 slightly more complicated tab in the TabNavigator. In WPF, I would
 simply carry on composing the UI while in Flex, I've lost much time
 investigating how to work around the technical limitations of
 mx:Button. There can be some technical problems like performace (as
 mentioned above) but I also understand that it may be simply too
 difficult to implement something like XAML – there, the 

[flexcoders] Single Flex Client connecting to both .NET/J2EE middleware

2007-01-10 Thread pk_wasp
Does anyone know if its possible to have a Flex Client which uses
remoting (RPC style) to connect to a .NET backend using WebOrb etc and
a J2EE backend using Flash-remoting or FDS 2?

e.g. the Flex client is talks both to a J2EE evironment and a .NET one

cheers



[flexcoders] Flex Builder 2.0.1 Trial

2007-01-09 Thread pk_wasp
Is this available?

I seem to bet getting the old when I download I try to download the trial.



[flexcoders] Re: Flex Marketing

2006-12-24 Thread pk_wasp
Ideas from Adobe employees like these might help convince ur I.T CEO,
Managers, Clients etc and show examples of what people are doing with
Flex.

http://www.onflex.org/ted/2006/12/surfacing-flex.php

http://www.flickr.com/photos/flexapps/





--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dorkie dork from dorktown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I agree Paul for the most part but at the same time I have two
theories on
 it.
 
 1. It's the little dogs that bark the loudest. The big dogs don't
have to.
 If Adobe / Macromedia team is confident in their work then word of mouth
 will spread it. It will get a reputation by virtue of its value.
 
 2. The campaigns they've launched, labs.adobe.com, dev center, support
 groups, developer relations, component developer relations, etc are all
 actions that say they are laying the groundwork and foundation for
things to
 come. I would say they are building the Flex ecosystem among the current
 Flash / Flex / ColdFusion developer community before inviting those
that are
 not already part of it.
 
 And then I disagree with my point number one. The web is very large.
Getting
 the word out there for people to know that it exists is important.
Many do
 not know about it. So marketing is important. But I do not like some
tactics
 in Marketing. In most marketing they are sleazy and deceptive.
Advertisers
 promote something that in reality what it is not. So they may be
waiting for
 a time when they think it is ready and matured to a point they want
to then
 go for it. If it was me, when I thought it was ready, I would aim at
making
 Flex known and what it does for you without glamorization.
 
 But as Tariq said, if no one knows about it they do not feel safe
adopting
 it. The only way I've got my Flex app in the door is because I knew the
 project manager. He had never heard of Flex. If Flex was mentioned
in Java
 Developers journal magazines he would know about it. Everyone was
expecting
 me to do AJAX. They thought that was hot s**t. :P
 
 They didnt know that Flex / Flash had any sort of capabilites similar to
 ajax.
 
 @Matt Chotin -
 
  So where do they hear about other technologies?  Are they reading
certain
 publications?  Blogs?  When they talk about other technologies do they
 actually know what they're talking about or is it just repeating the
buzz?
 
 Other developers at work hear about technology through Java Conferences,
 magazines (JDJ), word of mouth, blogs. The project managers and his
boss'
 conception of Flash was flashy animation and games.
 
 Friends who are not programmers know all about ajax from digg and tech
 feeds. One friend was all stoked about ajax and web 2.0 and crap
like that
 and I had to explain it all to him. Those outside of the industry
are mostly
 repeating the buzz.
 
 Now, once you get their attention with marketing and buzz words and
ability
 you have one more hurdle to overcome before adoption. The entry point is
 rather steep as well. For all it can do it's definately worth it but, it
 still remains out of the reach of many. Flex Elements may help an early
 adoption rate especially to cross over developers from Java, HTML,
AJAX, who
 are wary of such a huge investment. Sorry to get off the marketing
topic but
 I believe it is related. Either that or give many of the popular
tech blogs
 a promotion code to put on their site for Flex Builder for 100% off or
 something.
 
 
 
 On 10/4/06, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Is it just me that thinks Adobe is doing fine just as they are? I
think
  the real Flex breakthroughs will come as developers start
releasing clever
  apps and people start saying holy s**t.
 
  I happen to think that the developer support by Adobe (and Macromedia
  before them) is phenomenal.  Flex will move forward quietly until
it hits
  it's tipping point, then adoption will surge ahead.
 
  Don't worry too much about promoting Flex - let your applications
do that
  for you.
 
  Paul
 
  - Original Message -
 
  *From:* Tariq Ahmed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  *Sent:* Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:58 PM
  *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Flex Marketing
 
  I'd agree to that. The marketing effort seems to heavily rely on the
  development community doing that job for them. Things like labs
and DevNet
  are KEY to maximizing technology adoption - but people need to
know about it
  in the first place.
 
  To Restate Adobe's Goal: 1 000 000 Flex Developers by 2010.
 
  Some HEAVY DUTY marketing is needed. It definitely made sense to
capture
  those who are most amiable to Flex (CF and Flash developers) first
and grow
  from there. I think someone blogged about this before; in that of
course
  Adobe related blogs are going to be heavy proponents for Adobe
technologies.
  But now it's time to penetrate into the rest of the world.
 
  In polling my heavy duty tech friends in other industries, they BARELY
  know what Flex is. Many haven't heard of it. And some have heard
of it, just
  because they 

[flexcoders] Re: Flex help on IRC

2006-12-23 Thread pk_wasp
Hey cool idea

Has anyone brough up the idea of having a permanent adobe
connect/breeze session for flex developers to go to to chat, exchange
stuff etc?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dorkie dork from dorktown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 bump.
 
 On 11/28/06, Andrew D. Goodfellow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Great idea Louie! I've been using this channel for about a day now
and I'm
  finding it very useful.
 
  I'd definitely encourage everyone on the list to come and
participate, or
  at least lurk. :o)
 
  -Andy
 
 
  On 11/27/06, Louie Penaflor [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
  Hey everyone,
  
  
  
   For those of you who would like to attempt a
different way
   of getting help, we have started a flex channel on IRC Chat called
   #flex.  It's on efnet.  Hope to see you there.
  
  
  
   Louie
  
  
  
  
  
 





[flexcoders] OT:Flex 2 adoption rates so far?

2006-12-15 Thread pk_wasp
Has anyone got info on this?

The lastest investor webcast didn't mention much about Flex 2
disappointly:

http://www.adobe.com/aboutadobe/invrelations/06q4analyst/

(every bit of press helps convince that skeptical client :) )





[flexcoders] Re: Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container

2006-10-11 Thread pk_wasp
I guess my question was badly worded lol basically want to know the 
 X and Y co-ordinates of a container relative to the application

for example below (quick quesdo code) the x,y co-ordinates for box
at the moment it'll be 0,0 coz its relative to its container and its
layout is handle by the parent container (i think) so want to know how
to get the actual x/y co-ordinates relative to the application as it
should be more like 60,0 etc.

app
 hbox width=100% paddingLeft=60
 hbox id=box

/hbox
/hbox
/app

cheers


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  But the Flash Display Objects has a class that you can only be
 readable for with and height percentages of monitor .
 
  
 
 Sorry, I'm not sure what you're referring to.
 
  
 
 - Gordon
 
  
 
 
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Igor Costa
 Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 1:16 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a
 container
 
  
 
 I guess he's trying to get the Stage not the monitor. 
 
 But the Flash Display Objects has a class that you can only be readable
 for with and height percentages of monitor .
 
 Regards.
 
 On 10/9/06, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
 By screen do you mean the computer monitor, or the Flash stage?
 
  
 
 You can use the localToGlobal() method to convert to stage coordinates.
 I don't think you can get monitor coordinates of DisplayObjects.
 
  
 
 - Gordon
 
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ups.com
 http://ups.com ] On Behalf Of pk_wasp
 Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:26 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container
 
  
 
 Hi
 
 I'm trying to find out what actual x and y co-ordinates of a container
 (that is inside another container) relative to the screen rather then
 relative to the parent container. Is there an easy way to find this
 out? can't seem to find anything in the docs etc
 
 cheers
 
 
 
 
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[flexcoders] Actual screen X and Y co-ordinates of a container

2006-10-09 Thread pk_wasp
Hi

I'm trying to find out what actual x and y co-ordinates of a container
(that is inside another container) relative to the screen rather then
relative to the parent container. Is there an easy way to find this
out? can't seem to find anything in the docs etc

cheers




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[flexcoders] object index in data provider when binding to a control

2006-09-13 Thread pk_wasp
Say i'm using a data control like a tile list etc e.g.

mx:TileList dataProvider={someData} itemRenderer=ItemTest
/mx:TileList

in ItemTest we get the reference to the object via the data
property/variable, is there anyway to get the index of where this
object is in the collection?

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[flexcoders] Re: Flex Knowledge Aggregation PREVIOUS: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment

2006-05-30 Thread pk_wasp



Mailing list/forum hybrid sounds good :)



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Mika Kiljunen 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A definitive YES vote from me.
 
 
 
 --
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 _ 
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Vinny Timmermans
 Sent: 30. toukokuuta 2006 12:39
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Knowledge Aggregation PREVIOUS: Seperate 
Mailing
 List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment
 
 
 
 This Flexcoders list is a very valuable resource for every Flex 
developer,
 RIA consultant etc.. The bad thing however, it has a number of 
usability
 defects - ever done a search? - most of them due to the generic 
nature of
 the yahoo groups. Furthermore it does not integrate with the Adobe
 knowledgebase. In short: high quality content, low quality user 
experience 
 
 The Adobe forums on the other hand are a better experience to work 
with.
 However, although they allow you to subscribe to a rss feed, do not 
have
 regular email subscription as a feature (at least I haven't found 
it) 
 
 A simple suggestion: add regular email subscription to the Adobe 
forums,
 move/transfer the flexcoders list to the Adobe forums and 
integrate the
 Flexcoders/Flex Forums with the Adobe knowledgbase. No more 
searching in
 different places. A single high quality information source for 
everything
 Flex related.
 
 Like all other simple suggestion it needs some work :-)
 
 Vinny
 
 P.S. Now Steven has become an Adobe employee I am sure he loves 
this idea
 ;-) 
 
 
 
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List :: Component developers - Framework Devlopment

2006-05-29 Thread pk_wasp



whats wrong with using the official Adobe forums? :)

the Adobe Labs structure is quite cool (AS3, Flex Framework, General 
etc), maybe need one for Flex Components too?)

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Michael Schmalle 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Steven,
 
  if you want to create your own list for Flex specific topics, 
then great
 idea, and best of luck !
 
 This is the problem I am struggling to explain. This wasn't 
entirely 'my'
 idea. There were many developers that expressed some interest in 
this.
 
 Since I am talking to you, I am sorry for posting this on 
flexcoders. We
 wouldn't be having this conversation that feels like a do while 
loop gone
 wild if I hadn't posted it.
 
 As far as my questions unanswered; I am sure engineers at Adobe are 
busy,
 this seems obvious.
 
 There still hasn't been any form of communication created better 
than face
 to face.
 
 Just walking down the trail enjoying the scenery and ahh, wasp 
nest, run!
 
 Thanks for you time Steven,
 
 Mike
 
 On 5/29/06, Steven Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Michael,
 
  You've misunderstood the intent of my post; if you want to create 
your own
  list for Flex specific topics, then great idea, and best of luck !
 
  My post was meant simply to respond to a recurring thread since 
this list
  first started, as to whether we should have one list or multiple 
lists ...
  and our collective feeling is that until such point as threads on 
flexcoders
  become irrelevance for a majority of the membership, there's no 
immediate
  benefit from breaking our current flexcoders list into separate 
lists.
  Sheer volume of messages isn't really the issue - whether we 
receive 100
  messages a day from one list, or 50 messages a day from 2 lists, 
doesn't
  make the parsing and responding to the lists any easier or any 
more
  difficult.
 
  I'm not sure what questions you have been asking that haven't been
  answered, but there is a deep experience of Flex 1.x and Flex 2 
component
  development on this mailing list, and I'm sure the discussion on 
these
  topics is of interest and relevance to those that are subscribed 
generally
  to flexcoders. If your questions haven't been answered, I'd 
expect it's
  more likely because individuals were busy, rather than 
uninterested or
  unable.
 
  Anyway - I just want people to be clear that we're not carving up
  Flexcoders into separate lists, that we expect the entire 
flexcoders
  community to choose from and subscribe to. For the foreseeable 
future, we
  expect Flexcoders to remain a single mailing list, and we'll 
continue to
  moderate, monitor and support it as before.
 
  If in the meantime, community members elect to create, moderate 
and
  support topic-specific lists as you have done - then all the 
better ! Flex
  Component development is something I anticipate really taking off 
with the
  release of Flex 2.
 
  Best wishes and best of luck with your list,
 
  Steven
 
  *Sent:* 29 May 2006 16:35
  *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  *Subject:* Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing List ::
  Component developers - Framework Devlopment
 
  Steven,
 
  I have a question;
 
  Isn't a move like this (creating a framework/component) list, like
  refactoring in OOP? Essentially, this thought came from intuition 
about 2
  months ago when my 'development problems' were not being met.
 
  I see a way to grab a 'niche' of developers like myself and let 
us play
  off of our own intelligence. This means developers looking at 
questions of a
  list completly related to components and the framework see only 
questions
  about framework programming.
 
  I am not an application developer and do not want to be. So, 
comming from
  a component developer's perspective, I see this as completly 
necessary and
  for the most part required.
 
  If I am nieve, I will learn.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Mike
 
  On 5/29/06, Bjorn Schultheiss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I guess they have been created now.
  
  
  
   I think their success depending on the Adobe engineers and 
consultants
   input on these lists.
  
  
  
   I personally hope there will be input from you guys on the AS3 
specific
   list.
  
  
   --
  
   *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
   Behalf Of *Steven Webster
   *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 May 2006 12:57 AM
   *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   *Subject:* RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex2 :: Seperate Mailing 
List ::
   Component developers - Framework Devlopment
  
  
  
   Guys,
  
  
  
   The team at Adobe do our utmost to follow these lists - as soon 
as they
   fragment into multiple lists, it becomes more and more of our 
time to keep
   track of them all. There is no question related to Flex - be 
it 1.5,
   2.0, Data Services, Component Development, etc, etc - that is 
not
   suitable for posting here.
  
  
  
   The tipping point, for me, to split into separate lists, is 
where there
   are hundreds of posts 

[flexcoders] Re: AJAX versus Flex

2006-05-26 Thread pk_wasp



I don't think its particularly hard to convince internal management 
to consider Flex as a viable RIA/Enterprise solution.

The main problem/resistance we are finding is from our 
clients/customers opposing I.T architects who either get upset if we 
suggest Flex as a solution, or say they never heard of Flex and want 
an Ajax solution instead.

I think its partly Flash's animation legacy + ignorance/lack of 
awareness of Flex and the Flash Platform.

So I wonder if maybe the Flash Platform needs a reboot/rebranding 
e.g. a new runtime without legacy code (but obviously Flash Player 9 
will still be around for legacy stuff) and a new name :). I mean 
Microsoft are essentially doing this through WPF/E.

Also I think for the Flash Platform to be a true platform, it really 
needs a platform XML dialect for UIs - which is what XAML is for WPF 
and WPF/E. Would be great to able to export content created in Flash 
Authoring in some form of XML UI dialect and use it in the Flex 
Framework, Apollo, Flashlite etc.

Just my 2c, have really enjoyed learning Flex 2, guys (Java and .NET 
developers) at work were impressed, but definitely agree that Ajax is 
getting alot of hype and it seems to be working e.g. our customers 
are talking about Ajax but not about Flex or Flash.

I hope when Flex 2 goes live, there's a big marketing campaign + lots 
of real world stories of Flex being used in RIAs, Web 2.0 Apps and 
Internal Enterprise Applications so that our customers can see its a 
viable option.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, jwc_wensan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 To all:
 
 Got this email today, http://ajax.sys-con.com/ and it got me to
 thinking.
 
 I may get blasted for this, but here goes . . . just my .0199 cents.
 
 Let me first say I believe 100% that the Flex platform is a 
 better mousetrap. I am currently developing applications with 
 Flex. I prefer Flex.
 
 However, you can not open a software magazine, newsletter, journal, 
 article, etc. that doesn't reference something about AJAX. It's 
 everywhere. Adobe's Flex gets an honorable mention.
 
 I have been in the software business for over 27 years. I have 
seen 
 many companies come and go that had a better mousetrap. I also 
 realize that most end users do not care if a desktop app is 
 developed with Visual C++ or Visual Basic. So why would they care 
 what a RIA app is developed with. Probably not.
 
 In the end it is the application not the engine.
 
 There seems to be a parallel between PCs with Windows and 
 Apple/Macs. Many believe that the Mac is better, but Apple/Mac has 
 less the 5% of the market.
 
 Can Adobe accept 5% market share?
 
 You also can not under estimate the impact when Microsoft releases 
 Atlas. And no Robert I don't want to hear about how you hate MS or 
 the evil empire. Fact is, tens of thousands of developers will and 
 I say will use their product.
 
 What this also does is make it more difficult for developers to 
 convince management that the Flex product is better. Especially 
 when all they hear is AJAX this and AJAX that.
 
 AJAX is getting all the hype. Right or wrong these are the facts. 
 They have essentially taken over the RIA landscape and claimed it 
as 
 their own.
 
 My point . . . . Adobe you need to step up to the plate. If you 
 think you can wait, then by the time you start you will be too far 
 behind. You will be left behind always playing catch-up. If 
 you want to reach that 1 million developer goal, it needs to start 
 now.
 
 To be better and say you are better is not enough. If the industry 
 has already declared AJAX as the RIA industry leader then it 
becomes 
 too late.
 
 From a market perception, look how AJAX has evolved in the last 
 year. Compare that to Adobe Flex. Adobe you are asking developers 
 to make a commitment to you, well I think you need to increase your 
 commitment to us.
 
 Now is the time to promote to the industry and the general public 
as 
 a whole about the value of Flex.
 
 Again, just my opinion.
 
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[flexcoders] Re: AJAX versus Flex

2006-05-26 Thread pk_wasp



MXML is more of an application framework XML language

e.g. you can't define low level graphics such as shapes, gradients etc 
via markup like you can with XAML.



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[flexcoders] Re: Flex Component Directory

2006-05-11 Thread pk_wasp



Will we be able to access this component exchange through eclipse?

then just drag and drop the components we want to buy/use onto the 
Flex Builder component palette :)

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 I love the idea of an open source development approach for 
components. Adobe would be happy to help with you that. 
 
 Our plans to support component development are consolidate to 3 
key areas.
 
 1) In Flex 2 we include a developer guide on creating and 
extending components. We are also planning a whitepaper on 
component design theory.
 
 2) We are building a simpler version of a component exchange 
based on the exchanges that already exist on Adobe.com today - our 
plan is to add more features over time to this, as we learn more 
about what the community wants. 
 
 It is not our intent to resell the components but we would 
provide hosting for trial version or free components and link out to 
your sites to purchase, or so that users can find out more, get 
updates, etc...
 
 3) We are planning a component developer summit in June with 
tracks for both visual components and data/sytem level components. 
We will host the developers in San Francisco in person as well as 
online. The summit and the content that we provide there, and on 
the site after that, should help a lot with deeper requirements for 
understanding the framework and our roadmap.
 
 Please let me know if you would be interested in attending this. 
 
 There are quite a few developers already building and planning to 
ship components and we are pretty jazzed by some of the early stuff 
we are seeing. If you have thoughts on how you think we should 
approach this or would like to contribute to or participate in our 
efforts, or would like us to help you with what you are planning, 
then please let me know!
 
 Ben
 watson-at-adobe-dot-com
 
 
 Robert Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Are we talking 
about a site that allows component creators to post their 
components, go through and approval process, then be added to a 
catalog, be compensated for purchase; maybe affiliate programs also?
 
 Kelly @ Dekayd Media Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would use it 
and would be willing to help implement it or host it if
 necessary.
 
 I could definitely contribute to it.
 
 
 Thanks
 
 
 --Kelly
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Component Directory
 
 I've been working on a web application that is free to subscribe to
 and use, that would allow people to post and comment on Flex 
Components.
 
 The site is loosely modelled off SourceForge in functionality, and
 will allow the following features:
 
 Create a project
 Add files (mark releases)
 Add news / messages
 Have many developers for one Project/ Component
 Searchable listing
 and more...
 
 There are some basic details on my little blog:
 http://graham.weldon.ath.cx/blog/?p=8
 There will also be a Wiki for this appearing this week.
 
 Is anyone interested in seeing this up? With support and 
suggestions,
 I can put more effort in and get the basic site running sooner, 
rather
 than later.
 
 I know personally I would love a central database of flex
 components that allows people to freely post components for 
download.
 I am interested to see who would use this.
 
 Let me know
 
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 Beta 3 download

2006-05-09 Thread pk_wasp



damm, I still can't download it :( any mirrors?...the Flex word must 
be going around

i remember downloading Flex 2 Alpha at full speed when it just came 
out lol



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 Ditto -- been trying for the past 12 hours with no luck :(
 
 Helen
 
 pk_wasp wrote:
 
 Are people having problems downloading it?
 
 I've turn off download managers etc, but keep getting Cannot find 
 server or DNS Error if i click on any of the download links.
 
 (or are the servers getting hammered)?
 
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[flexcoders] Fully expand a Tree (Flex 2 Beta 2)

2006-05-05 Thread pk_wasp



Is there a property or method to fully expand a tree after its been 
created?

can't find anything in the docs, apart from using setIsOpen which I 
guess means walking through the whole tree?

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[flexcoders] Re: Fully expand a Tree (Flex 2 Beta 2)

2006-05-05 Thread pk_wasp



cool thanks, it worked.

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 Some code on Jeff's blog to open all nodes on a tree...
 
 
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  Is there a property or method to fully expand a tree after its 
been
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  can't find anything in the docs, apart from using setIsOpen which 
I
  guess means walking through the whole tree?
 
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[flexcoders] Validation framework and changing the way tooltips get triggered (F2B2)

2006-05-05 Thread pk_wasp



At the moment the validators will highlight a field in error and if you 
mouse over it, it will display the error message.

Is it possible (this could be a feature request if its not too 
late :) ), to select the way this is triggered?.

Rather then just only having the mouseOver event triggering the display 
of the error message tooltips, allow other events to trigger it as well 
e.g. when a users tabs to a field that is in error, we can show the 
error message tooltip on a focusIn event - this might be handy for Call 
Centre Applications where users tend to prefer to use the keyboard 
rather then the mouse etc.

maybe a displayTriggerEvent attribute in the validators or something :)

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[flexcoders] Re: OpenGL vs DirectX / Vista vs. Flash Player 9 MS comments about Flash re Vista

2006-04-28 Thread pk_wasp



Have you got a link to this video?

Are you talking about WinFX (with WPF/WCF etc) and WPF/E?

3D hardware acceleration stuff is pretty tricky with all the drivers, 
low level stuff to worry about, think thats why WPF is only going to 
be on Windows Platform and WPF/E will be non-3d so it can run on 
other platforms

But seeing Macromedia (Adobe) probably made one of the easiest plug-
ins/runtime to install, I'm sure they'll be able to deliver a true 
cross platform hardware accelerated WPF type runtime one day :)


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 PRE-TEXT: Just some encouragement. You guys at Adobe are smart and 
I know you can put in a DirectX like API that is perhaps a triggered 
add-on to the normal Flash Player, something that says This site 
includes high-end real time graphics; do you want to download the 
OpenGL Flash Player support extension?
 
 I just saw a Video this morning after reading Dvorak's article that 
IE is now an albatross due to their loss to Eolas in December and the 
11th of this month requiring a huge change to ActiveX control 
interaction.
 
 The video was a cross link and discussed the lack of real 3D with 
texturing etc. (DirectX) in Flash and a hint that our technology you 
can't do on a browser.
 
 Well, you can in an ActiveX control but now that's Screwed :-)
 
 So Vista WinFX and the Macintosh Viewer (i.e. not designer app) 
will be this coming Headon Collision between Adobe and Microsoft.
 
 I just want to encourage the FLEX and Flash 9 developers to try and 
bust Mickeysoft's bubble when it comes to the fact that they are an 
old man who is slowly dying -- they will be kept alive for a long 
time by their Cash Reserve which, some say has a lot of money in it 
through dirty tricks -- but in the end, I believe Adobe will come out 
ahead.
 
 Again, the FLEX group and FLASH group are full of very smart guys 
enough so to put in a DirectX like API that is perhaps a triggered 
add-on to the normal Flash Player, something that says This site 
includes high-end real time graphics; do you want to download the 
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2.0 b2: Data binding

2006-04-18 Thread pk_wasp
think u can only using the mx:Binding / tags

or for an AS3 only option use event listeners/dispatchers?

don't think u can do binding programatically like u can in WPF (though 
Flex is alot easier when it comes to data binding :) ).

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 How can I use data binding in as3 code, not in mxml?
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 Button enabled={someDataGrid.selectedItem} /
 
 How can I rewrite it in as code:
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[flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way?

2006-04-17 Thread pk_wasp
RPC style calls to do CRUD

Yep :) or at least a consistent Flash Remoting framework for all 
the major server-side platforms (PHP, Ruby, .NET etc)

Think one of the reasons why ASP.NET, Ruby on Rails etc is gaining  
coz its easy to do RPC style CRUD stuff .so Flex 2(which makes 
rich UIs easy) + all that server side Flex API/Framework to connect 
to webservices and do RPC style CRUDs - should help attract heaps of 
developers over :)

cheers


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You want RPC style calls to do CRUD but no synchronization logic?  
Well
 we'll have it for CF because Mystic has the adapter.  We'll have to 
do
 more research into the value of us providing for all of the 
different
 backends, but I'm sure there are folks thinking about it.
 
 Matt
 
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 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data 
Service
 alone, or is the message service the only way?
 
 Sounds interesting
 
 Will there ever be a non messaging version of Data Service (e.g. 
just 
 for RPC type functionality)?
 
 Would be cool to have some sort of Flex framework to do CRUD type 
 operations like Data Services and is server agnostic on the backend 
 (so server-side plugins/APIs for PHP, Ruby on Rails, J2EE, .NET, 
 Coldfusion etc, but the Flex client-side code is the same 
regardless 
 of middle tier technology)
 
 cheers 
 
 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin mchotin@ wrote:
 
  In Beta 3 we'll be providing more APIs that allow you to tell the
  DataService that a change has happened on the server and it will 
 push
  changes to the clients who would care.
  
   
  
  Matt
  
   
  
  
  
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  Subject: [flexcoders] FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service 
 alone,
  or is the message service the only way?
  
   
  
  Basically, I want my Flex clients to subscribe to data 
destinations 
 and
  receive updates that are cause by server-side processes.  Do I 
need 
 to
  use both services?  In other words, do a DataService.fill() upon 
app
  initialization and then again any time I receive a message from a
  separate message service destination? 
  
  To use a Flash Communication Server analogy, I can have my Flash 
 clients
  connect to a Remote SharedObject and then have the server 
 occasionally
  make a remoting call and update that SharedObject which pushes the
  changes out to the clients.  I need a way to do this in FDS. 
  
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[flexcoders] Re: FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service alone, or is the message service the only way?

2006-04-16 Thread pk_wasp
Sounds interesting

Will there ever be a non messaging version of Data Service (e.g. just 
for RPC type functionality)?

Would be cool to have some sort of Flex framework to do CRUD type 
operations like Data Services and is server agnostic on the backend 
(so server-side plugins/APIs for PHP, Ruby on Rails, J2EE, .NET, 
Coldfusion etc, but the Flex client-side code is the same regardless 
of middle tier technology)

cheers 



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 In Beta 3 we'll be providing more APIs that allow you to tell the
 DataService that a change has happened on the server and it will 
push
 changes to the clients who would care.
 
  
 
 Matt
 
  
 
 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Tom Bray
 Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 3:47 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] FDS: Can push be done with the Data Service 
alone,
 or is the message service the only way?
 
  
 
 Basically, I want my Flex clients to subscribe to data destinations 
and
 receive updates that are cause by server-side processes.  Do I need 
to
 use both services?  In other words, do a DataService.fill() upon app
 initialization and then again any time I receive a message from a
 separate message service destination? 
 
 To use a Flash Communication Server analogy, I can have my Flash 
clients
 connect to a Remote SharedObject and then have the server 
occasionally
 make a remoting call and update that SharedObject which pushes the
 changes out to the clients.  I need a way to do this in FDS. 
 
 Thanks!
 
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[flexcoders] drag and drop components between cells in a datagrid

2006-04-13 Thread pk_wasp
Is it possible to have a DataGrid with custom item renderer components 
and drag/drop them between the indvidual cells using DragManager/Proxy 
Framework etc?

or is there a better way?.e.g. a Grid, then using addChild/removeChild 
etc to handle this?

Creating a custom grid component looks too daunting lol

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[flexcoders] Flash Media 2 Server + Flex 2 (Beta 2) connection problem

2006-04-07 Thread pk_wasp
Trying to run this sample

http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=100

which works fine on localhost

using

nc.connect(rtmp://localhost/flex_videoconference);

but if if i change localhost to my server name (so other test machines 
on the LAN can see it)

I'm getting 

Unhandled NetStatusEvent: level=error, code=NetConnection.Connect.Failed
errors

Do I need to add some sort of cross domain policy file? (either in Flex 
or FMS 2) and how do i go about doing this?

The Flex App is running off FDS (the JRun integrated version)

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[flexcoders] Re: Salary Check

2006-04-04 Thread pk_wasp
Maybe if it involves a J2EE backend, charge as per J2EE developer

If you know Flash Authoring + a Designer as well add more?

btw, is Flex growing at an alarming rate??, doesn't seem like it at 
the moment to be honest 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Kevin Ewok [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 With Flex growing an alaming rate,I wanted to a check with the
 community  regarding salary rates (both contract and W-2). I've been
 coding in Flex 1.5 for over a year and have worked with the Beta 
for a
 month or two. I am quite confident in my skills and easily landed a
 $70/hour gig as a contractor. I also have been a back-end Java
 developer for the last 5 years. Having said that, job offers are
 starting to pour in for Flex work and they demand to know a salary
 rate first. I'm a bit hesitant to scare off employers with lower to
 mid 6-digit salary requirements so I thought I'd ping the community
 first. I'm based on the US east coast.
 
 Anyone have any thoughts? I apologize to the community if they don't
 like this question in the technical forum...I just thought it would
 help since there isn't any really anywhere else to go for help on 
this.
 
 Thanks.








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[flexcoders] Re: flex 2 integration with .net web service

2006-03-27 Thread pk_wasp
err hopefully i'm not off topic but in Visual Studios, they make it 
easy to handle stuff like this

e.g if you want to use a webservice that has complex types, it'll 
generate proxy objects (web references) for you to use so your web 
service calls are almost like normal methods/objects in your code 

e.g.
a client (e.g. an ASP.NET app) can call a webservice through 
generated proxy objects:

Demo_WS ws = new Demo_WS();
ComplexModel model = ws.getMyComplexModel();
txtFirstName.Text = model.FirstName;
etc etc

Is anyone planning a Flex type plugin for Ecilspe to do something 
similar? it'll make consuming web serivces quite trivial :)



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I don't know .NET that well, can you take a HashMap or something 
similar
 as the parameter into the web service?  You'd then just create the
 object and pass it as the single param to the service.
 
 Matt
 
 -Original Message-
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of nmsflex
 Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 8:24 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] flex 2 integration with .net web service
 
 Hi there!
 
 i'm playing around with flex 2 beta last two month, then i love it 
but
 i have hard time to find details document about passing complex 
object
 from flex to .net web service. There have very good couple articles
 discuss about it but no one can explain deeply detail how this
 integration part work.simple Example.
 
 at client side i have 3 field data need to pass to web service.
 1. first name.
 2. last name.
 
 
 after i get this information from user , then i create my own xml 
format
 
 register
  userfirstnamefirst name/userfirstname
  userlastnamelast name/userlastname
 /register
 
 then i have to covert this to string xml then passing it that's the
 way i work right now.
 
 at back end i have function to receive string xml for input.
 
 
 My question is: 
 
 is any way i can pass real xml object into web service tags in flex 
2
 and then at back - end i use XmlDocument parameter for input.
 
 if it is possible? then how exactly it work. i know in flex 2 i can
 write as3 function to call web service and passing object for
 parameter input but after i pass that object then what happen?
 
 i'm really looking for documents for this.
 
 thanks for you help.  
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 and FMS 2 for audio conferencing application

2006-03-26 Thread pk_wasp
cool thanks, will give this a go.



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Brian Lesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, audio and video streaming seem to work. For example to play a 
stream:
 
 private function play():void{
if(_inStream) _inStream.close();
// Create the stream:
_inStream = new NetStream(_nc);
// Setup the listeners:
_inStream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, netStatus);
_inStream.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR, 
 netSecurityError);
// Play the stream and show the video:
_inStream.play(_streamName);
_video.attachNetStream(_inStream);
 }
 
 And to publish a stream:
 
 private function publish():void{
if (_outStream ) _outStream.close();
_outStream = new NetStream(_nc);
_outStream.addEventListener(NetStatusEvent.NET_STATUS, 
netStatus);
_outStream.addEventListener(SecurityErrorEvent.SECURITY_ERROR, 
 netSecurityError);

// Capture video and publish it
_camera = Camera.getCamera();
if(_camera){
   _camera.setMode(160, 120, 6, true);
   _outStream.attachCamera(_camera);
   _video.attachCamera(_camera);
}
_microphone = Microphone.getMicrophone();
if(_microphone){
   _outStream.attachAudio(_microphone);
}
 }
 
 Yours truly,
 -Brian
 
 pk_wasp wrote:
 
 I want to build a simple audio conferencing Flex 2 (Beta 2) 
application 
 (just people using their microphone) with Flash Media Server 2
 
 Does anyone have any examples/links/documentation to do this sort 
of 
 thing? (if its possible)
 
 and is the microphone working with this Flash Player 8.5 now?
 
 searching through the archive found this:
 
 http://www.mail-
archive.com/flexcoders@yahoogroups.com/msg19222.html
 
 
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[flexcoders] JMS in FDS 2 and Flex examples

2006-03-26 Thread pk_wasp
Does anyone here (or will be it possible for Adobe in future releases 
to provide) have more complex examples of JMS/FDS 2 and Flex?

Data Services in FDS 2 seem pretty straight forward to use (very nice 
actually), but personally not that familiar with JMS given its not 
something you would normally associate with Web Applications :).

Something I would like to see as an example is a more advance chat JMS 
Application which can create chat rooms, manage connections, handle 
private messages between individual Flex client connections and so on.

Any chance of Adobe providing something like this in the future? :), or 
does anyone know of a JMS example like this somewhere?

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[flexcoders] Flex 2 and FMS 2 for audio conferencing application

2006-03-25 Thread pk_wasp
I want to build a simple audio conferencing Flex 2 (Beta 2) application 
(just people using their microphone) with Flash Media Server 2

Does anyone have any examples/links/documentation to do this sort of 
thing? (if its possible)

and is the microphone working with this Flash Player 8.5 now?

searching through the archive found this:

http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders@yahoogroups.com/msg19222.html


thanks






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[flexcoders] Re: Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?

2006-03-13 Thread pk_wasp
You mean we are only allowed to discuss technical issues with Flex 
1.x and Flex 2.x Beta on this mailing list?

Personally I find the hardest (and most fustrating) thing with Flex 
is trying to sell the idea of it to management at work as a platform 
for building rich internal enterprise applications. On the technical 
side of things finding its alot easier to learn Flex 2 then various 
DHTML/AJAX Toolkits and Microsoft WPF...well so far anyway :).

 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, dos dedos [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 I agree re: no envangelism
 
 However, it's very helpful for some of of us to understand the 
context and not just the content of what we're getting into. :)
 
 
 Nick Weekes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   personally id rather not see a 
technology evangelism debate  appear on this forum, thats a little OT 
for my liking.   
 
   
 -
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com  
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jignesh  Dodiya
 Sent: 13 March 2006 18:17
 To:  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo  hooked on AJAX?
 
 
  
  Jesse has really a mature idea on this..
  Don't u think, this forum can be more fruitfull if anybody from 
Adobe  do share his/her idea on this forum. Afterall its their duty 
to make people  encourage to use flex over AJAX, and the community 
always likes to hear Flex  expert's comment on such intensive 
topic? 
  
 
  
  On 3/13/06, dos dedos  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 
 
Yahoo has a lot of efforts inregards to Flex  Flash, you 
just probably haven't read about them, isall, or they didn't get 
as widely publicized.
 
 
 
That's what I wanted to find out ... thanks forpointing it 
out!!!
 

 
 JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: AJAX is here, works, has 
a large community, is  an old technology and thus has a plethora 
of resources.  Flex 2 isn't publicy out yet in an official capacity 
and  Flex 1.5's price point excludes a lot of those types of  
endeavors.
   
  Yahoo uses both; they are a big  company.  Yahoo Maps 
utilized Flex 1.5.  They should of used Flash  Player 8's bitmap 
features so it wasn't the best use of Flex, but it at  least got 
us on the radar.  They are also experiementing with updating  
some of the Java games to Flash. 
   
  Again, neither Google nor Yahoo can utilize  Flex 2 
because even if they did, no one could see it. Flash Player 8.5 
is  beta, not publicly available, and you have to download the 
entire Flex 2  package just to get it (which is a good thing). 
   
  Yahoo has a lot of efforts in regards to Flex   Flash, 
you just probably haven't read about them, is all, or they  
didn't get as widely publicized.
   
  Bottom line, AJAX is here, has been for awhile,  and 
works.  Flex 2 isn't even out yet.  Sparkle's awesome, but you  
don't see people, even Microsoft, creating Sparkle apps.
   
   
  -  Original Message -  From: dos dedos 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 12:24 PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Google, Yahoo hooked on AJAX?
 
  
  
 
 Google has purchased at least one company that uses  Flash or 
Flex (a Web analytics startup) but their own internal efforts 
seem  to be always focused on AJAX ... e.g. the latest Google 
Mars (  http://www.google.com/mars/)
 
 So it's fair to wonder why Google  isn't doing more with Flex 
at this time ... and why Flickr (Yahoo) moved  from Flash to 
AJAX ... especially given the fact that Flex 2 has a lot going  
for it from technical and end-user perspectives. 
 
 Attitudes change  over time and new technologies take a while 
to adopt, but it'd be nice to  understand whether or not Google, 
Yahoo and others are consciously resisting  Flex based on some 
non-technical reason (e.g. the fact that Flex is a  proprietary 
platform whereas AJAX is not.) 
 
 Google's and Yahoo's  position doesn't matter all that much as 
far as market adoption for Flex,  but it would be interesting to 
understand the strategic reasons why Google,  Yahoo and other 
major players (e.g. eBay) have so far prefer! red to stick  with 
AJAX. 
 
 An interesting position for Google and Yahoo would be to  
endorse AJAX half of the time and Flex the other half, or two thrids 
to one.  This way they would keep the market from leaning too 
heavily in favor of  either. But as of now, they're leaning too 
heavily in favor of AJAX, yet  it's very possible that they'll 
release (or acquire) something based on Flex  2 in the future. 
 
 I believe Sun has been very successful with Java on  the server 
side ... Flex could become as popular on the client side as Java  
is on the server side if  it's opened up in the style of the 
Java  Community Process.
 
 Just 

[flexcoders] Re: Effects - Newbie help

2006-03-08 Thread pk_wasp
the text on the label won't fade coz Flex uses device fonts by default

if you use embedded fonts u should see the effect

does anyone know if Flex 2.0 is going to support Flash Type e.g. 
that new font engine in Flash Player 8 which should sort this problem 
out?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Brent Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm having a litle trouble understanding how effects work. 
 Apparently when you play() an effect, it is asynchronous, but I 
can't
 seem to wrap my head around a solution.
 
  I have a Timer set up.  Each time it fires, I want to do the 
following:
 
 1) Fade the Label to alpha=0.0
 2) Change the Label text
 3) Fade to alpha=1.0
 
 
 So I define one mx:Fade to fade in and one to fade out.  Then in my
 timer handler I try:
 
 fadeOut.play([salesTxt], true);
 
 salesTxt.text = cf.format(tickerData[current].value);
 
 fadeIn.play([salesTxt], true);
 
 ...but the text just pops to alpha 0.0 and then fades in.
 
 Could someone explain why this happens and what would be a good way 
to
 accomplish this?
 
  Thanks,
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[flexcoders] Re: Bruce Eckels on Flex 2

2006-03-05 Thread pk_wasp
At What point those he talk about Flex? (the mp3 is quite long lol)

cheers

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 Cool! I knew Bruce on this list is the one Bruce Eckel, I even 
asked...
 
 -abdul
 
 On 3/6/06, Carlos Balacuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In an interview with Bruce Eckel (author of the books Thinking in
  C++ and Thinking in Java ), he talks about his positive 
experience
  with experimenting with Flash and Flex 2.
 
  You can hear this interview on the Java Posse podcast, episode #37
  Interview with Bruce Eckel, Part 2 at
  http://www.javaposse.com/index.php?post_id=65327
 
  - Carlos
 
 
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[flexcoders] verticalGap/horizontalGap in TileList - not working?

2005-05-30 Thread pk_wasp
Tried searching the forums on this (get the feeling the search feature 
in yahoo groups isn't as good as other forums :) ) 

does verticalGap or horizontalGap work for the dataProvider container 
TileList?

tried setting values but don't seem to have the gaps showing up 
between each cellItem.

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[flexcoders] On the topic of Wishlists

2005-05-12 Thread pk_wasp
I know Macromedia has a page where u can submit bugs or feature request

is there any pages on Macromedia site or livedocs to show what ppl 
have wished/requested for (thinking of filling out some feature 
requests for Flex 2.0 but don't really want to repeat what other 
people might have requested)

thanks.




 
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[flexcoders] Re: Resize Effect and undefined Heights

2005-05-10 Thread pk_wasp
Cool, thanks for the tip.

Hope Flex 2.0 has a display:none/block type setting for containers :)



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Manish Jethani 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 5/10/05, pk_wasp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails );
  e.heightFrom = 0;
  e.heightTo = undefined;
  e.duration=750;
 
 Try this:
 
 vbxDetails.height = undefined; // set this to undefined first
 e.heightTo = vbxDetails.preferredHeight;
 vbxDetails.height = 0; // set back to 0 before effect start
 
 I expect this to work because the component recalculates its 
preferred
 height if it is set to undefined and then you can set the effect's
 heightTo to the preferred height.




 
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[flexcoders] Resize Effect and undefined Heights

2005-05-09 Thread pk_wasp
Hi

Wonder if any1 knows how to do this (tried using the search, but 
couldn't find anything)

I Have a VBox container that is initally 0, and has x no of child 
containers/controls that could be added dynamically.

When I click a button I want to play a resize effect to expand it to 
show the whole container but when I try the undefined trick...it 
doesn't work:

var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails );
e.heightFrom = 0;
e.heightTo = undefined;
e.duration=750;

Any1 able to help?

vbxDetails.height = undefined (this works i think, but I want to 
play a nice Flex effect :) )

thanks.




 
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[flexcoders] Re: Resize Effect and undefined Heights

2005-05-09 Thread pk_wasp
Did it in AS coz i'm trying to do a complexish Sequence 

Might get ride of some of that now and use effect tags instead.

Thanks for the tip, it worked.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Could you just assign a resizeEffect on the VBox instead of 
writing it in
 AS?
 
  
 
 mx:Effect
 
   mx:Resize name=vbxResize duration=750 /
 
 /mx:Effect
 
  
 
 mx:VBox resizeEffect=vbxResize /
 
  
 
 Something like that.
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of pk_wasp
 Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 7:43 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Resize Effect and undefined Heights
 
  
 
 Hi
 
 Wonder if any1 knows how to do this (tried using the search, but 
 couldn't find anything)
 
 I Have a VBox container that is initally 0, and has x no of child 
 containers/controls that could be added dynamically.
 
 When I click a button I want to play a resize effect to expand it 
to 
 show the whole container but when I try the undefined trick...it 
 doesn't work:
 
 var e = new mx.effects.Resize( vbxDetails );
 e.heightFrom = 0;
 e.heightTo = undefined;
 e.duration=750;
 
 Any1 able to help?
 
 vbxDetails.height = undefined (this works i think, but I want to 
 play a nice Flex effect :) )
 
 thanks.
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: useHandCursor

2004-05-30 Thread pk_wasp
opps spelling mistake

i meant

useHandCursor=true from below


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, pk_wasp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi
 
 I've tried using useHandCuror=true on images etc (to show a hand 
 for MouseDown events etc)
 
 but it doesn't seem to work.
 
 Is there anyway to show a hand icon when the mouse cursor hovers 
 over buttons, images etc? (useHandCuror=true works in Flash, 
 compiles in Flex but doesnt' seem to go?)
 
 thanks.





Re: Row Height in Data Grid

2004-05-28 Thread pk_wasp
thanks, it actually worked.

my mistake.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It'd be great if you can post your code that doesn't compile. 
Sorry but I
 have no idea why rowHeight results in the error. It works for 
me...
 
 Thank you,
 -Yukari 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 1:33 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Row Height in Data Grid
 
 
 Hi
 
 Tried that..couldn't compile :(
 
 is there anyway to do it without using cell renderers etc?
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
  
  There is a rowHeight property inherited from ScrollSelectList
 class.
  mx:DataGrid rowHeight=100/ should work.
  
  Thank you,
  
  -Yukari
  
  -Original Message-
  From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:31 AM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Row Height in Data Grid
  
  
  Hi
  
  Does anyone know how to set the row height for data grids (not 
the
  header height)
  
  Did a search on these forums and can't find anything
  
  BTW
  Flex rulz
  
  showed some of my Java Peers - and for the 1st time...r 
interested
  in something Flash.
  
  cheers
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: Row Height in Data Grid

2004-05-27 Thread pk_wasp
Hi

Tried that..couldn't compile :(

is there anyway to do it without using cell renderers etc?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Yukari Machiyama 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 There is a rowHeight property inherited from ScrollSelectList 
class.
 mx:DataGrid rowHeight=100/ should work.
 
 Thank you,
 
 -Yukari 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: pk_wasp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:31 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Row Height in Data Grid
 
 
 Hi 
 
 Does anyone know how to set the row height for data grids (not the 
 header height)
 
 Did a search on these forums and can't find anything
 
 BTW
 Flex rulz
 
 showed some of my Java Peers - and for the 1st time...r interested 
 in something Flash.
 
 cheers
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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