[flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-23 Thread Anthony DeBonis
Everyone has opinions on AIR, but I can tell you I am writing some 
AIR base apps that solve some real life problems, I just can't wait 
for it to get out of Beta to share AIR with more customers. To me AIR 
is no Joke.

Sorry I can't help you with the TWAIN issue.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Tapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a colleague of mine has written an app to do this with AIR and 
 Artemis and a handful of java classes.  its pretty sweet.
 
 If used properly, AIR is anything but a joke.
 
 At 08:43 PM 1/20/2008, you wrote:
 
 Javier de la Torre wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I would like to access the TWAIN API from an AIR application. I 
have
   been looking around and the only way I have found it is by using
   Artemis. Although accessing from Java would be great, there are 
great
   APIs out there, the Artemis connection looks very preliminar 
and with
   a deploying process that can be too hard.
  
   I have understood also that there is no way to run command line
   processes from AIR in thi version.
  
   Another idea I have heard is to create an external program that 
will
   provide me access to TWAIN through sockets connections. But 
then I
   would have to distribute the two things together, set up 
services in
   windows, uff... it sounds is gonna be complicate to distribute 
such a
   software.
  
   Any other idea?
  
 
 Don't use air. Its pretty much useless for this type of app as far 
as i
 can tell. It's a bit of a bad joke really. Pity.
 
 cheers,
 - shaun
 
 
 
 Jeff Tapper
 Senior Technologist
 Digital Primates IT Consulting Group
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.digitalprimates.net





RE: [flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-23 Thread Lukas Ruebbelke
I think it is joke that someone would form their entire opinion on a
fledgling runtime environment because it cannot do one or two things. 

 

First of all, you have entirely missed the initial directive of AIR in the
first place which is to extend the browser to the desktop. I cannot think of
any web pages that access a command line prompt or the TWAIN API directly so
I am not surprised AIR cannot do these things. 

 

Everything you have proceeded to mention is on the radar and I would not be
surprised to see some implementation of it in the near future. 

 

Lukas

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com ups.com,
Jeff Tapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a colleague of mine has written an app to do this with AIR and 
 Artemis and a handful of java classes. its pretty sweet.
 
 If used properly, AIR is anything but a joke.
 
 At 08:43 PM 1/20/2008, you wrote:
 
 Javier de la Torre wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I would like to access the TWAIN API from an AIR application. I 
have
   been looking around and the only way I have found it is by using
   Artemis. Although accessing from Java would be great, there are 
great
   APIs out there, the Artemis connection looks very preliminar 
and with
   a deploying process that can be too hard.
  
   I have understood also that there is no way to run command line
   processes from AIR in thi version.
  
   Another idea I have heard is to create an external program that 
will
   provide me access to TWAIN through sockets connections. But 
then I
   would have to distribute the two things together, set up 
services in
   windows, uff... it sounds is gonna be complicate to distribute 
such a
   software.
  
   Any other idea?
  
 
 Don't use air. Its pretty much useless for this type of app as far 
as i
 can tell. It's a bit of a bad joke really. Pity.
 
 cheers,
 - shaun
 
 
 
 Jeff Tapper
 Senior Technologist
 Digital Primates IT Consulting Group
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.digitalp http://www.digitalprimates.net rimates.net


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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-23 Thread Claus Wahlers
Lukas Ruebbelke wrote:

 First of all, you have entirely missed the initial directive of AIR in 
 the first place which is to extend the browser to the desktop. I cannot 
 think of any web pages that access a command line prompt or the TWAIN 
 API directly so I am not surprised AIR cannot do these things.

Web pages also can't run in the Windows task tray, or access the local 
file system..

Cheers,
Claus.



RE: [flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-23 Thread Lukas Ruebbelke
 

See! Already they are over delivering! =) 

 

Command line access and direct print manipulation are valid requests but
that does not nullify the laundry list of really cool things that AIR can
already do. 

 

  _  

From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Claus Wahlers
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:48 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

 

Lukas Ruebbelke wrote:

 First of all, you have entirely missed the initial directive of AIR in 
 the first place which is to extend the browser to the desktop. I cannot 
 think of any web pages that access a command line prompt or the TWAIN 
 API directly so I am not surprised AIR cannot do these things.

Web pages also can't run in the Windows task tray, or access the local 
file system..

Cheers,
Claus.


 



Re: [flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-23 Thread Claus Wahlers
Lukas Ruebbelke wrote:

 See! Already they are over delivering! =)
 
 Command line access and direct print manipulation are valid requests but 
 that does not nullify the laundry list of really cool things that AIR 
 can already do.

I didn't say that. He did! (pointing at Shaun) ;)

Cheers,
Claus.



[flexcoders] Re: Access TWAIN scanners from Air

2008-01-22 Thread Javier de la Torre
Hi,

Do you know if distributing an AIR app with artemis and handful of
java classes is a complicate thing? I mean if the users will have lot
od issues installing an application like that.

I would love to do the UI with Flex but I need to access the scanner
somehow... I wouldnt like to have to do it in Java aghhh...

It would be great if Adobe provides an API for TWAIN access, and I
think it makes lot of sense considering their market, but if not I
agree that there should be someway to interact with the OS to be able
to do these kind of things...

Thanks.

Javier.

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeff Tapper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 a colleague of mine has written an app to do this with AIR and 
 Artemis and a handful of java classes.  its pretty sweet.
 
 If used properly, AIR is anything but a joke.
 
 At 08:43 PM 1/20/2008, you wrote:
 
 Javier de la Torre wrote:
   Hi all,
  
   I would like to access the TWAIN API from an AIR application. I have
   been looking around and the only way I have found it is by using
   Artemis. Although accessing from Java would be great, there are
great
   APIs out there, the Artemis connection looks very preliminar and
with
   a deploying process that can be too hard.
  
   I have understood also that there is no way to run command line
   processes from AIR in thi version.
  
   Another idea I have heard is to create an external program that will
   provide me access to TWAIN through sockets connections. But then I
   would have to distribute the two things together, set up services in
   windows, uff... it sounds is gonna be complicate to distribute
such a
   software.
  
   Any other idea?
  
 
 Don't use air. Its pretty much useless for this type of app as far as i
 can tell. It's a bit of a bad joke really. Pity.
 
 cheers,
 - shaun
 
 
 
 Jeff Tapper
 Senior Technologist
 Digital Primates IT Consulting Group
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 http://www.digitalprimates.net