Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Monday 31 July 2006 16:07, ddanone2 wrote: Tom, i dont believe what i'm reading!!! Maybe you work for free??? Nope, but... BTW, I would like to know how many people has purchased Flex, i'm one of them. (So is my employer, for the record. Since Flex 1.) . we're a Linux-based development team, so it's the SDK and Eclipse for us, until Adobe release a/the cross/Linux platform Flex IDE. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Friday 28 July 2006 16:50, hank williams wrote: Sure there's a good reason. They are human beings and not for lack of trying they couldnt get it done yet because there are significant differences/issues between mac windows in the eclipse environment. I didn't think there were many, certainly if you started out with cross-platform Java in mind. I always accept we tried but couldnt do it (in time) as a valid excuse. I imagine in the final push, more people will use it in Windows, so that's the focus. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Friday 28 July 2006 23:34, Adam Reynolds wrote: It's your life. You are more than welcome to choose how you difficult you want to make it for yourself... shrug FB is hundreds of pounds. Eclipse is free, as is a few minutes here and there to fix-up the schema when it throws one to many red wiggles :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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On Friday 28 July 2006 18:00, hank williams wrote: tomcat on the mac side and fb2 and firefox in the pc partition. But I am not clear how networking works between the two virtual environments. I understand you either create a private network with only the guest and host on, or give the guest it's own real IP on the real network. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Friday 28 July 2006 16:23, Adam Reynolds wrote: You need to give yourself an hourly rate and then ask yourself how much money the IDE will save you. The effort involved in not using the IDE could end up costing you more in the long run. Using the IDE would be an exercise in making my machine run very slowly, as it doesn't want to install under WINE, and full-on VMWare seems overkill. Using Eclipse isn't so bad - I don't need drag and drop visual editing for instance so loosing that isn't so bad. I do think the charting is just a nice to have, and people will release their own cheap/free charting components so you can save yourself even more money by not going for that option. What has charting got to do with a Linux IDE ? -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On 7/31/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 July 2006 16:50, hank williams wrote: Sure there's a good reason. They are human beings and not for lack of trying they couldnt get it done yet because there are significant differences/issues between mac windows in the eclipse environment. I didn't think there were many, certainly if you started out with cross-platform Java in mind. Actuallly there are. They are mainly bugs I guess. There are quite a few pieces of eclipse software that dont run on the mac. I have personally been frustrated a number of times. SWT is not generic java, but code that runs natively on each individual platform to provide the platform specific UI feature set. But the generic circumstances are irrelevant actually. Adobe has said they tried and that they faced specific issues that prevented them from getting up and running on the mac. And the fact that the compilers run fine (where no UI is involved) but that Flex Builder doesnt certainly dovetails. So, again, to suggest that there is no good reason seems to suggest that they are either incompetent or dishonest, and I dont think that, at least in this case, that either assumption is warranted. Regards Hank -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Monday 31 July 2006 11:27, hank williams wrote: is no good reason seems to suggest that they are either incompetent or dishonest, and I dont think that, at least in this case, that either assumption is warranted. no good reason is a phrase I use when there is no good technological reason why, all else equal, it shouldn't work. In this case, there are plenty of people running Eclipse on Mac (including Apple - http://developer.apple.com/tools/eclipse.html), the RDS bits run fine on Linux, which just leaves the highlight, debugger and drag'n'drop, all of which should build on well-used Eclipse core frameworks (such as GEF). It's a big like MNG in Firefox (http://www.rachaelandtom.info/node/1217). If Adobe are incompetent or dishonest, we have bigger problems than a decent IDE :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On 7/31/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 31 July 2006 11:27, hank williams wrote: is no good reason seems to suggest that they are either incompetent or dishonest, and I dont think that, at least in this case, that either assumption is warranted. no good reason is a phrase I use when there is no good technological reason why, all else equal, it shouldn't work. In this case, there are plenty of people running Eclipse on Mac (including Apple - http://developer.apple.com/tools/eclipse.html), the RDS bits run fine on Linux, which just leaves the highlight, debugger and drag'n'drop, all of which should build on well-used Eclipse core frameworks (such as GEF). Again. I believe them when they said they tried but that there were bugs/issues that prevented it. Particularly when I have come across other eclipse apps that I want to run on the Mac that the authors say wont run because of eclipse swt issues. I am not an SWT expert, but I believe people when they say this. The fact that *some* or even *most* apps run on the Mac is not proof that there are not bugs or issues that prevent some things from working right. So no examples of things that do run will be evidence that there are not issues, particularly with something as sophisticated as Flex Builder. Regards Hank It's a big like MNG in Firefox (http://www.rachaelandtom.info/node/1217). If Adobe are incompetent or dishonest, we have bigger problems than a decent IDE :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Monday 31 July 2006 12:09, hank williams wrote: with something as sophisticated as Flex Builder. Maybe I have a lower thought on how sophisticated it is :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
lol. :) On 7/31/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 31 July 2006 12:09, hank williams wrote: with something as sophisticated as Flex Builder. Maybe I have a lower thought on how sophisticated it is :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
Tom, i dont believe what i'm reading!!! Maybe you work for free??? There are a GREAT TEAM behind FLEX who need to earn money to make FLEX bigger. BTW, I would like to know how many people has purchased Flex, i'm one of them. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
BTW, I would like to know how many people has purchased Flex, i'm one of them. As of 7:34pst exactly 10,956 copies. Just kidding :) Hank -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
BTW, I would like to know how many people has purchased Flex, i'm one of them. As of 7:34pst exactly 10,956 copies. Just kidding :) Hank GREAT!! How did you know that? -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
with something as sophisticated as Flex Builder. Maybe I have a lower thought on how sophisticated it is For what it's worth... the effort that gone into creating FlexBuilder has been comparable to that of creating the Player, the Framework, or FDS. Dunno whether that makes it sophisticated or not. - Gordon -Original Message- From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Chiverton Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:10 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem... On Monday 31 July 2006 12:09, hank williams wrote: with something as sophisticated as Flex Builder. Maybe I have a lower thought on how sophisticated it is :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
We made the SDK free because we want lots of developers using Flex regardless of whether they buy FlexBuilder or not. - Gordon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ddanone2 Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 8:08 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem... Tom, i dont believe what i'm reading!!! Maybe you work for free??? There are a GREAT TEAM behind FLEX who need to earn money to make FLEX bigger. BTW, I would like to know how many people has purchased Flex, i'm one of them. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com, Tom Chiverton tom.chiverton@... wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We made the SDK free because we want lots of developers using Flex regardless of whether they buy FlexBuilder or not. - Gordon Gordon, you know you are in the right way (I think), take a look to ZEND, maybe FLEX is a PHP mirror comercially talking, also ZEND has Zend Studio like Flex Builder, i'm not comparing FLEX with PHP of course but the comercial way. Regards -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
Tom, It's your life. You are more than welcome to choose how you difficult you want to make it for yourself... Tom Chiverton wrote: On Friday 28 July 2006 15:48, gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. You mean like Eclipse (with WTP and ... someones :-) ... XML schema) ? Flex builder isn't an option for me because for no very good reason it only runs on Windows. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On Friday 28 July 2006 15:48, gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. You mean like Eclipse (with WTP and ... someones :-) ... XML schema) ? Flex builder isn't an option for me because for no very good reason it only runs on Windows. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
On 7/28/06, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 28 July 2006 15:48, gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. You mean like Eclipse (with WTP and ... someones :-) ... XML schema) ? Flex builder isn't an option for me because for no very good reason it only runs on Windows. Sure there's a good reason. They are human beings and not for lack of trying they couldnt get it done yet because there are significant differences/issues between mac windows in the eclipse environment. I always accept we tried but couldnt do it (in time) as a valid excuse. Hank -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem...
Tom, You need to give yourself an hourly rate and then ask yourself how much money the IDE will save you. The effort involved in not using the IDE could end up costing you more in the long run. I do think the charting is just a nice to have, and people will release their own cheap/free charting components so you can save yourself even more money by not going for that option. 2 years from now when somebody releases flexClipse (tm) free IDE then this may be a different conversation.:) gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Of course, if Tom exclusively uses Linux or OS X, then the IDE isn't an option at all, without an emulator or some other hack... Unfortunately, FlexBuilder 2 is a resource dog... I had to upgrade my machine to 2gig's of ram just for it to be usable. This poor laptop now runs (when I'm coding): FB2 Dreamweaver (sometimes) ColdFusion MySQL SQL Server 2000 IE Firefox Now, let's say I'm on a Mac... that means I'll be running one less server (SQL Server), but still the rest. How am I supposed to run Parallels on top of all that just to run FB2? I'd need a machine maxed out at 4gigs of ram :) Shan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam ReynoldsSent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:23 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem... Tom,You need to give yourself an hourly rate and then ask yourself how much money the IDE will save you. The effort involved in not using the IDE could end up costing you more in the long run.I do think the charting is just a nice to have, and people will release their own cheap/free charting components so you can save yourself even more money by not going for that option.2 years from now when somebody releases flexClipse (tm) free IDE then this may be a different conversation.:)gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton tom.chiverton@... wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006
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I generally run FB2, MySQL, Tomcat Firefox and it runs fine in a 1gb pc partition. I shortly expect to move over to my mac, and I am thinking 1gb for paralells to run and I am hoping I might be able to run mysql and tomcat on the mac side and fb2 and firefox in the pc partition. But I am not clear how networking works between the two virtual environments. HankOn 7/28/06, Shannon Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, if Tom exclusively uses Linux or OS X, then the IDE isn't an option at all, without an emulator or some other hack... Unfortunately, FlexBuilder 2 is a resource dog... I had to upgrade my machine to 2gig's of ram just for it to be usable. This poor laptop now runs (when I'm coding): FB2 Dreamweaver (sometimes) ColdFusion MySQL SQL Server 2000 IE Firefox Now, let's say I'm on a Mac... that means I'll be running one less server (SQL Server), but still the rest. How am I supposed to run Parallels on top of all that just to run FB2? I'd need a machine maxed out at 4gigs of ram :) Shan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Adam ReynoldsSent: Friday, July 28, 2006 10:23 AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [Junk E-Mail - LOW] Re: [flexcoders] Re: Answer to the most frequent problem... Tom,You need to give yourself an hourly rate and then ask yourself how much money the IDE will save you. The effort involved in not using the IDE could end up costing you more in the long run.I do think the charting is just a nice to have, and people will release their own cheap/free charting components so you can save yourself even more money by not going for that option.2 years from now when somebody releases flexClipse (tm) free IDE then this may be a different conversation.:)gotgoose09 wrote: It's so much easier with Flex Builder though. :) Until something free with Flex code completion comes out I'd rather use Flex Builder. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 27 July 2006 16:30, Shannon Hicks wrote: Download the trial versions of Flex 2, or go buy a retail copy ($749 with charting) or an educational copy ($79 with charting). I've a better idea. Download the free SDK and don't pay anything. Ever :-) -- Tom Chiverton --No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.4/402 - Release Date: 7/27/2006 __._,_.___ -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com SPONSORED LINKS Web site design development Computer software development Software design and development Macromedia flex Software development best practice YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "flexcoders" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
