[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser j...@... wrote: It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what you're doing. But, lets compare apples to apples here. It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would start at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the installers. I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial. Login and I can either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with various options for language and/or OS. The CF install process is relatively painless across operating systems and across web servers. I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / Allaire) has devoted time to making that easy over the years. I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it is a relatively painless process. On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I click the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows. I have no idea which one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer. What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer from a 3rd party? What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL? I don't remember why, when I'd never had PHP installed on my machine, I knew that the place to start out with PHP was to install WAMP. It was probably one of those random facts I'd filed away when I didn't need to care for when I did. I suspect I'm not uncommon in knowing that that's where you go when you want to set up PHP painlessly on your machine. I think that it's a good habit to get into when you're a developer of any kind to note and possibly even bookmark information that might be of use later. An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't need any special software to write php code, and you don't need any background knowledge other than what you need for any other web technoloty. I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to compiled whatever. There are probably several other things like that that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other mass of stuff you need to know before you can use CF. Whereas, with PHP, if you have a basic knowledge of html, css, and database connectivity you're pretty much set with a WAMP installation and a link to the PHP docs. I guess it also depends on your motivation for wanting to install PHP. If you're wanting to enhance your skill set for potential employers, of course you want to be able to say that you have the skills that commonly go along with php--Apache and mySQL. I think most people would find php by itself of limited use.
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Amy wrote: I don't remember why, when I'd never had PHP installed on my machine, I knew that the place to start out with PHP was to install WAMP. It was probably one of those random facts I'd filed away when I didn't need to care for when I did. I suspect I'm not uncommon in knowing that that's where you go when you want to set up PHP painlessly on your machine. In that case, I am the anomaly. Because this thread is the first I've heard of WAMP. Granted I don't normally travel in PHP Developer circles, but neither (I suspect) would most newbies to the technology. An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't need any special software to write php code, I'm sorry if I communicated this; as it is completely untrue and not something I intended to say. ColdFusion code (CFML) can be written in any text editor, including notepad if you really wanted to. and you don't need any background knowledge other than what you need for any other web technoloty. I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to compiled whatever. You're understanding is incomplete. ColdFusion is a server side technology. Pages are compiled on the fly by the server and cached in memory. The developer has to do nothing.special other than write CFML in their HTML pages and give them a 'cfm' extension. Is PHP any different? As far as I understand, it is not. There are probably several other things like that that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other mass of stuff you need to know before you can use CF. I would argue that this is not unique to CF. Despite your earlier claim that anyone who knows web technology can start doing PHP immediately, I doubt an HTML / CSS / Designer person w/ no programming knowledge / experience would be able to pick it up and go. There will be a learning curve. In that respect, there is no difference between CF and PHP. (or .NET, Java, Ruby, Python, etc... ) -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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Amy wrote: An important difference between ColdFusion and php, as you rightly pointed out, is that php is installed on the server only--you don't so is cf. need any special software to write php code, and you don't need any background knowledge other than what you need for any other web technoloty. I don't know much about ColdFusion, but I do know that the pages are compiled, so I wouldn't be able to just walk in and use CF without at least figuring out how to go from source code to compiled whatever. There are probably several other things like that you write the code (any old text editor will do), put it up on your cf server it compiles the code runs it. all you need to do is simply call that code from your browser. period. that you need to learn in CF before you can actually become productive, so it's not just installation time, it's that whole other mass of stuff you need to know before you can use CF. like what? SQL? CSS? HTML? oh wait, you need to know the same for PHP, don't you? no, you don't need to know any sort of mass of stuff to work w/cf (well other than cf but then again you need to know PHP before you can develop applications w/it too). it seems your opinions about cf are pretty much all wrong.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser j...@... wrote: I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...?
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It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what you're doing. But, lets compare apples to apples here. It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would start at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the installers. I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial. Login and I can either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with various options for language and/or OS. The CF install process is relatively painless across operating systems and across web servers. I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / Allaire) has devoted time to making that easy over the years. I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it is a relatively painless process. On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I click the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows. I have no idea which one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer. What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer from a 3rd party? What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL? Amy wrote: --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Jeffry Houser j...@... wrote: I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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Although I prefer open source software, it's true that most of the time it's harder to use an open source version that a paid for equivalent. Coldfusion is easier to setup than PHP, Photoshop or Word are more user friendly than Gimp or OpenOffice and so on. Open source software is free but you're kind of expected to make more efforts to use it - i.e. read the doc, search Google. Once you are used to it though, it's just as good as the paid equivalents. -- Laurent Cozic Flash, Flex and Web Application development http://pogopixels.com --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com wrote: From: Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:29 PM It's easy to get things done / setup if you already know what you're doing. But, lets compare apples to apples here. It seems logical to me that someone wanting to install CF would start at Adobe.com , and from there could easily find and download the installers. I chose, Products ColdFusion, and download Free Trial. Login and I can either download the developer edition or the trial edition; with various options for language and/or OS. The CF install process is relatively painless across operating systems and across web servers. I have no doubt Adobe (Macromedia / Allaire) has devoted time to making that easy over the years. I doubt the download / install can be done in 10 minutes, but it is a relatively painless process. On the other hand, if I go to PHP.com (oops, I mean PHP.net ) I click the download link in the nav bar it gives me 6 options for Windows Binaries, I have 6 options of 5.2.8 for Windows. I have no idea which one is the I need; but none of them are labeled WAMP installer. What would make me, as a PHP newbie, go looking for an installer from a 3rd party? What if I don't want to install Apache or MySQL? Amy wrote: --- In flexcod...@yahoogro ups.com, Jeffry Houser j...@... wrote: I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. I wonder how 10 minutes to find and install WAMP stacks up against the time to order Coldfusion, get it, and install it...? -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl. com/684b5h http://www.twitter. com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras .com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexs how.com http://www.jeffryho user.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
Ruby on Rails is interesting because of the little amount of code you need to write, compared to Java for example. My RoR back end server deals with the database (Oracle in my case) and communicates with a Flex front end via XML. Of course, you can use AMF, but in my situation I don't have such high performance requirements. Chris.
[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
I recommend you take a serious look at ColdFusion . Here is an Adobe site that talks the features and benefits of building RIAs with Adobe Flex/ColdFusion. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/flex_cf.html It is clearly the best fit promoted by Adobe. Adobe does a lot of work to bring Flex and CF together, such as out-of-the-flex support within CF. I agree. Any software language can meet any requirement. But, from my 20 years of doing/managing development in many different server technologies ... CF is by far the fastest to train, learn and implement rapidly. Since you know php, adding CF to your skill set will be any easy route to take. After all, ColdFusion is Javajust a heck of a lot easier. Good thing that Flex is Flexible and you can choose. I have some Flex apps that use CF, .Net, and Java on the back-end ... since in a Web 2.0/SOA architecture ... you can have many backends to a single Flex app. ... and the end user doesn't care what shop or camp your technology religion is anyway. :) Give CF a try. It will only take you a day to have your first Flex/CF app up and running! Don Kerr --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
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- Original Message - From: Don Kerr fusionp...@yahoo.com To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 9:25 AM Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language I recommend you take a serious look at ColdFusion . Here is an Adobe site that talks the features and benefits of building RIAs with Adobe Flex/ColdFusion. http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/flex_cf.html It is clearly the best fit promoted by Adobe. Adobe does a lot of work to bring Flex and CF together, such as out-of-the-flex support within CF. I agree. Any software language can meet any requirement. But, from my 20 years of doing/managing development in many different server technologies ... CF is by far the fastest to train, learn and implement rapidly. Since you know php, adding CF to your skill set will be any easy route to take. After all, ColdFusion is Javajust a heck of a lot easier. Good thing that Flex is Flexible and you can choose. I have some Flex apps that use CF, .Net, and Java on the back-end ... since in a Web 2.0/SOA architecture ... you can have many backends to a single Flex app. ... and the end user doesn't care what shop or camp your technology religion is anyway. :) Give CF a try. It will only take you a day to have your first Flex/CF app up and running! Don Kerr Coming from a Java background and having had some small exposure to CF, I would agree with Don, particularly with the features that CF offers besides the scripting language and DB support - reporting especially. One thing really does concern me though about CF - how is it faring in the marketplace? In some quarters you'd imagine it was a dead technology from the way it is talked about and there always seems to be a disparity between it's functionality and takeup. Adopting a core serverver-side laguage is not easy - the market seems pretty fragmented. Paul --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
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I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. Dnk wrote: Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev machine without vendor lockin. Dk On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com mailto:ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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The ColdFusion is Dead argument has come up somewhere every 6 months for the past 8 years. I perceive, from Adobe's stand point that CF is a stable product showing consistent growth. CF was designed for web development and that is something that it does wonderfully well. But, that makes it a niche product when compared to .NET or Java which are the end all to any programming need. To give a few indications of the market: 1) There are CFML alternatives to Adobe's ColdFusion, including open source ones. Check out Open BlueDragon, Railo, (both Java based like CF), or BlueDragon.NET (runs on .NET ). Obviously someone must think there is a market. WebORB also has a ColdFusion specific version. 2) After Allaire was acquired by Macromedia; the number of developers was estimated at 350K. Today it is estimated at ~500K. ( http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/pdfs/adobecoldfusionevangelismkit.pdf ) . Even if the number of Flex Developer's grow 100%, there will still be less Flex Developer's than CF Developers. OF course Flex and CF are treated differently because Flex is viewed as a growth market, while CF is stable / mature. And dollar for dollar, you get a lot of stuff built in to CF that would be add-ons to other platforms. Paul Andrews wrote: One thing really does concern me though about CF - how is it faring in the marketplace? In some quarters you'd imagine it was a dead technology from the way it is talked about and there always seems to be a disparity between it's functionality and takeup. Adopting a core serverver-side laguage is not easy - the market seems pretty fragmented. Paul --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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On windows and mac, there are all encompassing dev installers that will install PHP, apache and mysql in a matter of minutes without any real config needed. They have a GUI for the most common changes you may want to make. I believe the win one is called WAMP and the mac one is MAMP. Never had an issue with them. Easy as pie. D On 19-Feb-09, at 5:09 AM, Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com wrote: I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. On windows Dnk wrote: Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev machine without vendor lockin. Dk On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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It was on windows, years ago, and I was trying to get it to work w/ IIS not Apache. I don't remember specific issues, though. Dnk wrote: On windows and mac, there are all encompassing dev installers that will install PHP, apache and mysql in a matter of minutes without any real config needed. They have a GUI for the most common changes you may want to make. I believe the win one is called WAMP and the mac one is MAMP. Never had an issue with them. Easy as pie. D On 19-Feb-09, at 5:09 AM, Jeffry Houser j...@farcryfly.com mailto:j...@farcryfly.com wrote: I prefer CF because it is what I know. Since it comes from Adobe it's integration w/ Flex is top notch. After 2 days of trying, I gave up trying to get PHP to work on my dev machine; so I'm amused by the claim it can be setup w/ minimal fuss. On windows Dnk wrote: Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev machine without vendor lockin. Dk On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com mailto:ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP. -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust -- Jeffry Houser, Technical Entrepreneur Adobe Community Expert: http://tinyurl.com/684b5h http://www.twitter.com/reboog711 | Phone: 203-379-0773 -- Easy to use Interface Components for Flex Developers http://www.flextras.com?c=104 -- http://www.theflexshow.com http://www.jeffryhouser.com -- Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
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On 19-Feb-09, at 9:42 AM, Jeffry Houser wrote: It was on windows, years ago, and I was trying to get it to work w/ IIS not Apache. I don't remember specific issues, though. Yeah, when going with IIS, it is a bit of a manual process. But with the installers, it was a breeze. And sets up all the elements at once. d
[flexcoders] Re: Flex server language
Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
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Again, this comes to preference, but for me I like PHP due to the fact Ito is available on a huge number of the web hosts out there, and it can be run on Linux, win or osx with minimal fuss. Easy to setup a dev machine without vendor lockin. Dk On 18-Feb-09, at 7:10 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dnk d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP.
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They are all popular. I think the .Net platform is growing while Java is diminishing but I may be misinformed and that may be temporary. I personally prefer the .Net platform and C#. You seem to know PHP so that may be the fastest way for you to leverage your knowledge. No matter what server side platform / language you choose, I advise you to look into AMF as a communication protocol. There are several gateways for each of the languages (Like FluorineFX for .Net, Zend AMF for PHP etc). In this area, Java is possibly the most interesting language since it offers you a way into Red5 and BlazeDS. Kind regards, /Johan From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bsyyu Sent: den 19 februari 2009 04:10 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex server language Thanks for your comments. I am not a student for learning. Currently I have finished my first project with Flex for a shopping cart project. http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ http://www.fredederick.com/fredederick_shop_online/ It is done with PHP backend. After that project, I have intention to develop a DIY shopping cart system such as X-cart with Flex and would like to know which server language best fit with Flex, regarding the speed and support etc. and also sometimes customer may have their own server system that I have to fit into, then which backend is most popular etc. thanks --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Dnk d.k.emailli...@... mailto:d.k.emailli...@... wrote: They will all get the job done. It is matter of requirements and preferences for the job. Dustin Krysak Sent from my iPhone On 18-Feb-09, at 4:31 PM, bsyyu ben.s...@... mailto:ben.s...@... wrote: currently, I am using PHP as server language. In fact I would like to learn other server language in combination using Flex. Any suggestion such as .NET, coldfusion or JSP. image001.gifimage002.gif