Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
On Thursday 25 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > An OT comment to an OT post but I do wonder why people who are forced to ad > those inane legal qualifiers to their emails don't just subscribe to > newsgroups and mailing lists from a gmail account. Because, in theory, GMail doesn't count as work and this account does (yes, I know they do IMAP now so I could use it with KMail, but I can only send outbound SMTP via our mail server, which is what adds the footer). It's not an argument I want to have with IT. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to authoritatively maximize third-generation initiatives on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
This is one of the most fun I have had on flexcoders in a long time. I am on the floor rolling around and laughing so hard. (I have long arms for typing) Gmail does help with a lot of the issues, that is why I changed to a gmail account a while back for my group emails. I also switched to Thunderbird, because it had some straight forward threading options. Anyway, keep up the funny comments. I loved them. Tony
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
LMAO, you're like the William Wallace of flexcoders. That was hilarious. I work for a large financial services company so we are under all sorts of regulations concerning logging and retention of all communications, electronic and otherwise. So its part company policy, part federal law. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Decoursey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Where are you now? > > > I have to say though, you have to really love your job to put up with > that. No company I would work for would pull that kind of crap on > me. I work how I want, when I want, and I need full access the the > internet to do my job. > > FREEDOM! > > > On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:08 PM, ben.clinkinbeard wrote: > > > Lots of people (including me) can't access web mail from work. Network > > blocky blocky. > > > > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "pixelgeek" wrote: > >> > >> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "droponrcll" > >> wrote: > >> > >>> As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the > >>> forume ;- > >>> ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > >>> yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. > >> > >> An OT comment to an OT post but I do wonder why people who are > > forced to ad those inane > >> legal qualifiers to their emails don't just subscribe to newsgroups > > and mailing lists from a > >> gmail account. > >> > > > > >
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
Where are you now? I have to say though, you have to really love your job to put up with that. No company I would work for would pull that kind of crap on me. I work how I want, when I want, and I need full access the the internet to do my job. FREEDOM! On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:08 PM, ben.clinkinbeard wrote: > Lots of people (including me) can't access web mail from work. Network > blocky blocky. > > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "pixelgeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "droponrcll" >> wrote: >> >>> As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the >>> forume ;- >>> ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of >>> yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. >> >> An OT comment to an OT post but I do wonder why people who are > forced to ad those inane >> legal qualifiers to their emails don't just subscribe to newsgroups > and mailing lists from a >> gmail account. >> > >
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
Lots of people (including me) can't access web mail from work. Network blocky blocky. --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "pixelgeek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "droponrcll" wrote: > > > As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the forume ;- > > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > > yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. > > An OT comment to an OT post but I do wonder why people who are forced to ad those inane > legal qualifiers to their emails don't just subscribe to newsgroups and mailing lists from a > gmail account. >
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Amen ! You're a funny guy Tom. : P
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "droponrcll" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the forume ;- > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. An OT comment to an OT post but I do wonder why people who are forced to ad those inane legal qualifiers to their emails don't just subscribe to newsgroups and mailing lists from a gmail account.
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > > yours. > > Maybe you could look in the archives. Maybe I good. But Tom Chiverton long disclaimer doesn't return any results ;-). Perhaps it would help if at the bottom of it you at least added "Please trim this disclaimer when replying to FlexCoders posts."
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
On 10/25/07, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > > yours. > Maybe you could look in the archives.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > yours. Maybe you could look in the archives. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to enormously disintermediate robust interfaces on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > This is actually a major pet peeve of mine and I find it frustrating to see > people post small messages that have multiple copies of the Yahoo Groups > footer, large corporate confidentiality sigs, extraneous material or all of > the above in some combination. Amen ! -- Tom Chiverton Helping to globally empower unique paradigms on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by The Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
droponrcll wrote: > > I subscribe to multiple yahoo forums and find the Digest the easiest > way to deal with all of the traffic. > > As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the forume ;- > ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of > yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. > > -Amy ZING!
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
pixelgeek wrote: > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul deCoursey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I think the point to the 100+ emails is you can quickly scan the >> subjects for what might be of interest. >> > > Questioning a persons use of a feature of this site because you don't see the > utility isn't the > issue. > > I questioned nothing, I only felt that the point was missed. To each their own, I personally don't give a damn if people use digest or not, I'm just saying it didn't work for me, but I'm impatient and want satisfaction now!
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
gmail auto compacts the quoted text for you. so it isn't a problem for gmail users. it also groups the threads. so i don't think many of the people on this list realize that it is doing this or that there is a problem. On 10/24/07, pixelgeek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com , Paul > deCoursey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think the point to the 100+ emails is you can quickly scan the > > subjects for what might be of interest. > > Questioning a persons use of a feature of this site because you don't see > the utility isn't the > issue. > > >
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul deCoursey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think the point to the 100+ emails is you can quickly scan the > subjects for what might be of interest. Questioning a persons use of a feature of this site because you don't see the utility isn't the issue.
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 24 Oct 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > So I ask: is there any kind of netiquette regulation about trimming > > this stuff off, or should I just accept it as a FlexCoders FOL? > > The general rule is to only quote what you need to make the context clear. > This should be down 'bottom quote' style and/or inline if needed. > > OOI why do you use the digest ? If you don't want to read everything (who > does !) why not filter messages into their own folder and have your mail > client thread them so you can read back up/down the thread as you need ? I subscribe to multiple yahoo forums and find the Digest the easiest way to deal with all of the traffic. As long as we're making suggestions about how others use the forume ;- ), is there anything you can do about that mammoth disclaimer of yours. It usually dwarfs your actual posts. -Amy
Re: [flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
pixelgeek wrote: > >> OOI why do you use the digest ? >> > > Its easier to browse through a single mail message than it is to read 100+ > emails. > > I think the point to the 100+ emails is you can quickly scan the subjects for what might be of interest. And if you have threading enabled in your mail client then it's much easier to follow up on threads that are of interest to you. I tried digest for a while and on a list with this much traffic it's too difficult to keep up with things that way. The messages took a long time to download and took too long for me to scan for relevant info. But back on the off topic, it doesn't bother me a lot if now and then there is stuff that should have been trimmed, but those extreme examples seem to be occurring more an more. it takes but a moment to edit your message, let's all join together in harmony to accomplish the goal of lessening the bandwidth required to run this list. let's save some trees, I mean bandwidth. Paul
[flexcoders] Re: OT: Netiquette Question
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The general rule is to only quote what you need to make the context clear. > This should be down 'bottom quote' style and/or inline if needed. This is actually a major pet peeve of mine and I find it frustrating to see people post small messages that have multiple copies of the Yahoo Groups footer, large corporate confidentiality sigs, extraneous material or all of the above in some combination. My favourites are posts that have 1 line of original content and multiple lines of unnecessary material. I think the worst I have seen so far is 250+ lines of quoted material to one line of new content. I think that people should take the time to trim their posts and make it so that it is easy to parse through their message. Especially on a list that gets this much traffic. It doesn't help though that so many email clients make top posting a default (or only) option for replies and don't make it easy to single out a section to reply to. > OOI why do you use the digest ? Its easier to browse through a single mail message than it is to read 100+ emails. In any case its not relevant :-) Its a fairly popular option for Yahoo Groups and people not taking the time to trim their posts makes it a nightmare to read.
