Re: [flexcoders] Re: Quick Flex 2.0 questions
On Saturday 24 Feb 2007, Adam Pasztory wrote: automatically when you declare a var using that data type. I love clever little features like that. comment:PetGripe=stupid 'cross platform' IDE that doesn't run on Linux; :-) -- Tom Chiverton Helping to synergistically embrace open-source environments at http://thefalken.livejournal.com This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/nhFolB/TM ~- -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [flexcoders] Re: Quick Flex 2.0 questions
Jamie, you can try out FlexBuilder for free (I think for 30 days) to help decide whether it's worth it. - Gordon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Pasztory Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 11:06 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Quick Flex 2.0 questions I just took the plunge and purchased FlexBuilder after spending a lot of time exploring other options (OK, you can call me stingy). The existing FlashDevelop solution was too problematic in my opinion, and there's no indication about when FD3 will be out. And unless you're a big fan of command line in general, it's probably not going to cut it for you. After having played around with FB for about 2 days, I realize the decision was a no-brainer. The design mode is excellent. I was able to throw together nice-looking UIs for unit testing within a matter of hours. The AS coding support is on par with FlashDevelop. So far my favorite new feature is that the editor adds in import statements for you automatically when you declare a var using that data type. I love clever little features like that. -Adam On 2/23/07, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info guys, that's exactly what I need. I'm definitely going to download the demo of Flex Builder and play with it. I suspect I'll end up buying it if my prototypes with Flex prove to work the way I expect them to. I have to say, I'm really excited to discover Flex. I was trying to figure out a solution for this project via AJAX and it just wasn't working. Even using all the latest stuff, the web UI just couldn't match the desktop app that this web app needs to replace. I had talked with the client about using Flash, but as a developer, I always found developing apps for Flash really difficult. I had no idea you guys were working on essentially a UI/App framework for Flash. What a great idea! From what I've seen so far, it seems like the way to go for rich web app UI. I'm excited to see what I can do with Flex. Thanks! Jamie --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com , Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming that Flex retains the Flash socket ability to communication over TCP/IP? Yes. All Flash Player 9 APIs (the flash.* packages) are available in Flex. If all I want to do is deliver a Flex Flash app on the client that talks to a back end server over TCP/IP, I don't need to be paying for Flex Data Services, correct? Correct. There are no licensing fees to distribute regular Flex applications? Correct. If I want to do some simple 2-D pie charts, will I need to buy the Adobe Flex Charting? Yes, unless you want to write your own 2-D pie charts. Or is ther some basic charting built into Flex? There is not. How much easier is it to build a Flex app with Flex Builder than with the SDK? The three main advantages of FlexBuilder are: * code hints and code completion that make writing MXML and AS code easier and faster * visual debugging instead of command-line debugging with fdb * design view for doing visual layout I've heard developers say that FB pays for itself pretty quickly, but since I work for Adobe I'll let other recommend whether you should buy it or not. We love having SDK-only developers just as much as those using FlexBuilder. - Gordon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Jamie Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Quick Flex 2.0 questions I am architecting an RIA that needs to be able to connect via TCP/IP to a back-end server. I've looked at a lot of technologies, and Flex 2.0 Flash seems to be the best front end solution. 4 questions: 1) I'm assuming that Flex retains the Flash socket ability to communication over TCP/IP? 2) All of the extremely expensive licensing for Flex Data Services has me a little spooked. If all I want to do is deliver
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Quick Flex 2.0 questions
I just took the plunge and purchased FlexBuilder after spending a lot of time exploring other options (OK, you can call me stingy). The existing FlashDevelop solution was too problematic in my opinion, and there's no indication about when FD3 will be out. And unless you're a big fan of command line in general, it's probably not going to cut it for you. After having played around with FB for about 2 days, I realize the decision was a no-brainer. The design mode is excellent. I was able to throw together nice-looking UIs for unit testing within a matter of hours. The AS coding support is on par with FlashDevelop. So far my favorite new feature is that the editor adds in import statements for you automatically when you declare a var using that data type. I love clever little features like that. -Adam On 2/23/07, Jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info guys, that's exactly what I need. I'm definitely going to download the demo of Flex Builder and play with it. I suspect I'll end up buying it if my prototypes with Flex prove to work the way I expect them to. I have to say, I'm really excited to discover Flex. I was trying to figure out a solution for this project via AJAX and it just wasn't working. Even using all the latest stuff, the web UI just couldn't match the desktop app that this web app needs to replace. I had talked with the client about using Flash, but as a developer, I always found developing apps for Flash really difficult. I had no idea you guys were working on essentially a UI/App framework for Flash. What a great idea! From what I've seen so far, it seems like the way to go for rich web app UI. I'm excited to see what I can do with Flex. Thanks! Jamie --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Gordon Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm assuming that Flex retains the Flash socket ability to communication over TCP/IP? Yes. All Flash Player 9 APIs (the flash.* packages) are available in Flex. If all I want to do is deliver a Flex Flash app on the client that talks to a back end server over TCP/IP, I don't need to be paying for Flex Data Services, correct? Correct. There are no licensing fees to distribute regular Flex applications? Correct. If I want to do some simple 2-D pie charts, will I need to buy the Adobe Flex Charting? Yes, unless you want to write your own 2-D pie charts. Or is ther some basic charting built into Flex? There is not. How much easier is it to build a Flex app with Flex Builder than with the SDK? The three main advantages of FlexBuilder are: * code hints and code completion that make writing MXML and AS code easier and faster * visual debugging instead of command-line debugging with fdb * design view for doing visual layout I've heard developers say that FB pays for itself pretty quickly, but since I work for Adobe I'll let other recommend whether you should buy it or not. We love having SDK-only developers just as much as those using FlexBuilder. - Gordon From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jamie Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 2:01 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: [flexcoders] Quick Flex 2.0 questions I am architecting an RIA that needs to be able to connect via TCP/IP to a back-end server. I've looked at a lot of technologies, and Flex 2.0 Flash seems to be the best front end solution. 4 questions: 1) I'm assuming that Flex retains the Flash socket ability to communication over TCP/IP? 2) All of the extremely expensive licensing for Flex Data Services has me a little spooked. If all I want to do is deliver a Flex Flash app on the client that talks to a back end server over TCP/IP, I don't need to be paying for Flex Data Services, correct? There are no licensing fees to distribute regular Flex applications? 3) If I want to do some simple 2-D pie charts, will I need to buy the Adobe Flex Charting? Or is ther some basic charting built into Flex? 4) How much easier is it to build a Flex app with Flex Builder than with the SDK? I'll probably just download the trial and find out myself on this one. Thanks! -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com Yahoo! Groups Links
