RE: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???

2007-03-09 Thread Jagos, Allan
Thanks, that makes sense.



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Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:59 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???



Hey there Allan -- i'll try to throw my 3 cents in, and by all means,
if anyone else has something to add - do so.

basicaly, flex is an application framework...stress the word
APPLICATION. our strategy on flex has been that if we can consider
it an APPLICATION, we will use flex. If youre going to do a website
for a danish death metal band, for example...you would probably use
flash, as it's gonna be pretty artistic and not really an
application...just a fancy website. however, if said danish death
metal band needed a way for their management to update their site and
add new shows, news, and other 'management' type stuff...flex would
be a great tool to use to construct a content management system, in
conjunction with PHP, java, ruby, whatever

Soreally simplythats how we use flex apps where i work. thats
not to say you cant make flex look greatbut its mainly for
APPLICATIONS :)

hows that fer redundancy? 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com
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 What sites make the most sense to use Flex?
 Internets, Intranets, Extranets?
 Marketing sites about Flex aren't even usually written in Flex so it
 made me wonder what type of site makes sense.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Allan M. Jagos 
 Web Developer 
 
 Robinson  Cole LLP
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???

2007-03-09 Thread Doug McCune

I'll throw in a quick opinion here and talk about how I like to think about
using Flex. Basically if you've got data you need to visualize in any
non-boring way then Flex is the way to go. What this means is that if you've
got a bunch of data that you want to show somehow other than dropping it
into a list or table, this is where Flex dominates. The plug-and-play
charting components, the SpringGraph custom component, Josh Tynjala's
TreeMap component, these are all data visualization tools.

A lot of people are using Flex for displaying tabular data, and that's all
good and cool. Flex is useful for easily sorting and analyzing tabular data.
But that stuff bores the hell out of me. If you want to take that data and
really show it off visually, now you've got the tools. Is one data item more
important than the others? Then make it bigger, make it glow, hell, make it
jump up and down and get the user's attention. Are there connections between
data items? Draw them. Drop your data into a 3D space and let the user
REALLY see how the data is connected.

Let's say you've got a table of employee records, but what you REALLY want
to see is the organizational structure of the department and the performance
metrics for each team member. Well, draw it all how it should be drawn. Draw
the team composition as an org chart and differentiate the team members by
performance. Make the underperforming employees stand out so that at a
glance you can see the team structure and problem areas. You don't have to
scan over the Performance Metric column of your data grid and try to
separate out the problems. You can glance at the screen and just know.

Flex allows you to visualize your data in entirely new ways. A grid of
tabular data might be useful, but come on, try to imagine the ideal
visualization of that data. Really think about the information you're trying
to get across. Data is no longer constrained to a HTML table.

Doug



On 09 Mar 2007 08:09:48 -0800, Jagos, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


   Thanks, that makes sense.

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*From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On
Behalf Of *kasey.mccurdy
*Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:59 PM
*To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
*Subject:* [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???

 Hey there Allan -- i'll try to throw my 3 cents in, and by all means,
if anyone else has something to add - do so.

basicaly, flex is an application framework...stress the word
APPLICATION. our strategy on flex has been that if we can consider
it an APPLICATION, we will use flex. If youre going to do a website
for a danish death metal band, for example...you would probably use
flash, as it's gonna be pretty artistic and not really an
application...just a fancy website. however, if said danish death
metal band needed a way for their management to update their site and
add new shows, news, and other 'management' type stuff...flex would
be a great tool to use to construct a content management system, in
conjunction with PHP, java, ruby, whatever

Soreally simplythats how we use flex apps where i work. thats
not to say you cant make flex look greatbut its mainly for
APPLICATIONS :)

hows that fer redundancy?

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Jagos,
Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What sites make the most sense to use Flex?
 Internets, Intranets, Extranets?
 Marketing sites about Flex aren't even usually written in Flex so it
 made me wonder what type of site makes sense.

 Thanks.


 Allan M. Jagos
 Web Developer

 Robinson  Cole LLP
 280 Trumbull Street
 Hartford, CT 06103-3597
 Direct (860) 275-8335 | Fax (860) 275-8299
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.rc.com http://www.rc.com/
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 Boston New London Hartford Stamford White Plains New York
 Sarasota

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RE: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???

2007-03-09 Thread Jagos, Allan
Good points.  I will use what you are saying.  Thanks.



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Doug McCune
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:09 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???



I'll throw in a quick opinion here and talk about how I like to think
about using Flex. Basically if you've got data you need to visualize in
any non-boring way then Flex is the way to go. What this means is that
if you've got a bunch of data that you want to show somehow other than
dropping it into a list or table, this is where Flex dominates. The
plug-and-play charting components, the SpringGraph custom component,
Josh Tynjala's TreeMap component, these are all data visualization
tools. 

A lot of people are using Flex for displaying tabular data, and that's
all good and cool. Flex is useful for easily sorting and analyzing
tabular data. But that stuff bores the hell out of me. If you want to
take that data and really show it off visually, now you've got the
tools. Is one data item more important than the others? Then make it
bigger, make it glow, hell, make it jump up and down and get the user's
attention. Are there connections between data items? Draw them. Drop
your data into a 3D space and let the user REALLY see how the data is
connected. 

Let's say you've got a table of employee records, but what you REALLY
want to see is the organizational structure of the department and the
performance metrics for each team member. Well, draw it all how it
should be drawn. Draw the team composition as an org chart and
differentiate the team members by performance. Make the underperforming
employees stand out so that at a glance you can see the team structure
and problem areas. You don't have to scan over the Performance Metric
column of your data grid and try to separate out the problems. You can
glance at the screen and just know. 

Flex allows you to visualize your data in entirely new ways. A grid of
tabular data might be useful, but come on, try to imagine the ideal
visualization of that data. Really think about the information you're
trying to get across. Data is no longer constrained to a HTML table. 

Doug




On 09 Mar 2007 08:09:48 -0800, Jagos, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 



Thanks, that makes sense.



From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
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Of kasey.mccurdy
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 9:59 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: When to use Flex???




Hey there Allan -- i'll try to throw my 3 cents in, and by all
means,
if anyone else has something to add - do so.

basicaly, flex is an application framework...stress the word
APPLICATION. our strategy on flex has been that if we can
consider
it an APPLICATION, we will use flex. If youre going to do a
website
for a danish death metal band, for example...you would probably
use
flash, as it's gonna be pretty artistic and not really an
application...just a fancy website. however, if said danish
death
metal band needed a way for their management to update their
site and
add new shows, news, and other 'management' type stuff...flex
would
be a great tool to use to construct a content management system,
in
conjunction with PHP, java, ruby, whatever

Soreally simplythats how we use flex apps where i work.
thats
not to say you cant make flex look greatbut its mainly for
APPLICATIONS :)

hows that fer redundancy? 

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
mailto:flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com , Jagos, Allan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 What sites make the most sense to use Flex?
 Internets, Intranets, Extranets?
 Marketing sites about Flex aren't even usually written in Flex
so it
 made me wonder what type of site makes sense.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 Allan M. Jagos 
 Web Developer 
 
 Robinson  Cole LLP
 280 Trumbull Street
 Hartford, CT 06103-3597
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