Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Jeffry Houser

  Artemis is dead, but Google Merapi; which is the name of Artemis 
Reborn project. I'm not sure of the status of development, though.

Jhonny Everson wrote:
 
 
 hi Guys,
 
 Is anyone using Artemis to bridge Adobe Air Applications to java 
 runtime? I want to brigde air with java without a servlet container. 
 Artemis proposes to do what I want but looks like it is dead. The last 
 message on the site is since April 30, 2007.
 
 Is anyone using it? Is it 'stable'? ( don't need to be completely 
 stable, but at least usable) Does anyone knows an alternative?
 
 Thanks
 
 -- 
 Jhonny Everson

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Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Kelly
If Adobe was smart they would completely open source AIR and Flash Player.

Then Flex/AIR could be the new GUI layer for desktop Java apps.

Of course there is no reason you couldn't just bundle your application 
so that it automatically installs a local instance of Tomcat or some 
other java container running Blaze DS and then interact with the local 
JVM through remoting calls made to localhost.


Artemis is dead though. Not sure what happened to the post that 
explained why.












Jhonny Everson wrote:

 hi Guys,

 Is anyone using Artemis to bridge Adobe Air Applications to java 
 runtime? I want to brigde air with java without a servlet container. 
 Artemis proposes to do what I want but looks like it is dead. The last 
 message on the site is since April 30, 2007.

 Is anyone using it? Is it 'stable'? ( don't need to be completely 
 stable, but at least usable) Does anyone knows an alternative?

 Thanks

 -- 
 Jhonny Everson
  



Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Jeffry Houser

Kelly wrote:
 
 
 If Adobe was smart they would completely open source AIR and Flash Player.
 
 Then Flex/AIR could be the new GUI layer for desktop Java apps.

  I'm curious.  Why does Flash Player + AIR have to be open source for 
this to occur?


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Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Jhonny Everson
Some posts about Merapi:

http://www.cornilliac.com/blog/?p=50

http://adamflater.blogspot.com/2008/02/meet-merapi.html

[ February 8, 2008 ] Adam Flater said - Merapi is in very early stages of
development. We're hoping to get a private alpha release going in a matter
of weeks and move to open source inside of something like 3-6 months.
On 4/1/08, Jhonny Everson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks guys,

 We don't want to install anything on client's machine unless it is really
 necessary. We are even using embed databases.
 I really want to use Flex/AIR as front-end, but installing a java
 container is not a good option for us. I completely agree with Kelly that
 Adobe is missing an opportunity to take over the Deskops.

 --
 Jhonny Everson




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Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Jhonny Everson
Thanks guys,

We don't want to install anything on client's machine unless it is really
necessary. We are even using embed databases.
I really want to use Flex/AIR as front-end, but installing a java container
is not a good option for us. I completely agree with Kelly that Adobe is
missing an opportunity to take over the Deskops.

-- 
Jhonny Everson


Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread li wenzhi
Does FlashPlayer/AIR open source has any benefits? I doubt it!
How many developers can contribute to these platform's evolution on earth if 
open source?
I think Adobe open source these platform , it will do harm to their healthy 
growth!

If you want to do something helpful to FP/AIR, just to join the platform team 
and  get involved to it, Do not require open source!
 
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Ultrapower Flex Team Leader
OpenRIA -- A Window You Exploring RIA World
http://www.openria.cn



- Original Message 
From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:20:13 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Artemis


Kelly wrote:
 
 
 If Adobe was smart they would completely open source AIR and Flash Player.
 
 Then Flex/AIR could be the new GUI layer for desktop Java apps.

I'm curious. Why does Flash Player + AIR have to be open source for 
this to occur?

-- 
Jeffry Houser
Flex, ColdFusion, AIR
AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
--
Adobe Community Expert 
http://www.adobe. com/communities/ experts/members/ JeffryHouser. html
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My Blog: http://www.jeffryho user.com


 


  

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Re: [flexcoders] Artemis

2008-04-01 Thread Jhonny Everson
I do agree that Open Source won't help. I agree that making a way that Air
could be used for front end to java and other languages would help a lot.

On 4/1/08, li wenzhi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   Does FlashPlayer/AIR open source has any benefits? I doubt it!

 How many developers can contribute to these platform's evolution on earth
 if open source?
 I think Adobe open source these platform , it will do harm to their
 healthy growth!

 If you want to do something helpful to FP/AIR, just to join the platform
 team and  get involved to it, Do not require open source!

 --
 lwz7512
 Ultrapower Flex Team Leader
 OpenRIA -- A Window You Exploring RIA World
 http://www.openria.cn

 - Original Message 
 From: Jeffry Houser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 8:20:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Artemis


 Kelly wrote:
 
 
  If Adobe was smart they would completely open source AIR and Flash
 Player.
 
  Then Flex/AIR could be the new GUI layer for desktop Java apps.

 I'm curious. Why does Flash Player + AIR have to be open source for
 this to occur?

 --
 Jeffry Houser
 Flex, ColdFusion, AIR
 AIM: Reboog711 | Phone: 1-203-379-0773
 --
 Adobe Community Expert
 http://www.adobe. com/communities/ experts/members/ JeffryHouser. 
 htmlhttp://www.adobe.com/communities/experts/members/JeffryHouser.html
 
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