Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-27 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:56, JesterXL wrote:
 Not anymore, no, as he's usually embedded at the top of the tree.  

I'm not sure what you mean.

 could utilize ViewLocator I guess, but that is bleh.

Indeed. We tend to pass the view into the event instead.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-27 Thread JesterXL
Typically, in my Application, I'll put the Controller.  The Application can 
only capture deeply nested events if they bubble, and unless you utilize 
classpaths as your event names, you run the danger of name collisions for 
bubbling events in bigger apps.  The Controller can only get events from the 
CairngormEventDispatcher; he no longer supports the built-in EventDispatcher 
through the normal display list.  So, although he does extend UIComponent, 
he ignores regular events dispatched up to Application.  Could you make it 
work?  Sure, but then that's not the latest way Cairngorm works.  I don't 
mind modding Cairngorm, to be sure, just pointing it out.


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On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:56, JesterXL wrote:
 Not anymore, no, as he's usually embedded at the top of the tree.

I'm not sure what you mean.

 could utilize ViewLocator I guess, but that is bleh.

Indeed. We tend to pass the view into the event instead.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread Douglas Knudsen



ah, righto. thanks d00ds. I had this hacked up too much...no worky good. If only I can get that damn RO to calm down now and do what its told! but that's another thread.DK
On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,The delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I thinkyou just need to check to make sure the event you received is yourcustom event type and then cast it.so:if (eventHere is LoadScorecardEvent)
{del.getScorecard( LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId );}else{// do nothing, or raise error, or log warning, or whatever.}best of luck,Thunder--- In 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Knudsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone point me to a example of how to pass data in a cairngormtype event?I'm trying the below with
 package com.mycompany.events { import com.adobe.cairngorm.control.CairngormEvent; public class LoadScorecardEvent extends CairngormEvent { public static var EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD: String =
 'LoadScorecardEvent';public var scorecardId:Number; /*** The constructor,*/ public function LoadScorecardEvent( ) {
 super( EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD ); } } } then in a view dispatching like so var devent : LoadScorecardEvent = new LoadScorecardEvent();
 devent.scorecardId = 5;CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent( devent ); and in the command I have public function execute( eventHere : CairngormEvent ) : void
{ var del : MainDelegate = new MainDelegate( this ); del.getScorecard( eventHere.scorecardId );} But this bombs out with a error about scorecardId not in eventHere.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread Ralf Bokelberg



Its really a pity, that we loose all the nice type information while going all the way through Cairngorm. 

Cheers,
Ralf. On 7/27/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

ah, righto. thanks d00ds. I had this hacked up too
much...no worky good. If only I can get that damn RO to
calm down now and do what its told! but that's another thread.DK
On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,The delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I thinkyou just need to check to make sure the event you received is yourcustom event type and then cast it.so:if (eventHere is LoadScorecardEvent)
{del.getScorecard( LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId );}else{// do nothing, or raise error, or log warning, or whatever.}best of luck,Thunder--- In 

flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Douglas Knudsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone point me to a example of how to pass data in a cairngormtype event?I'm trying the below with
 package com.mycompany.events { import com.adobe.cairngorm.control.CairngormEvent; public class LoadScorecardEvent extends CairngormEvent { public static var EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD: String =
 'LoadScorecardEvent';public var scorecardId:Number; /*** The constructor,*/ public function LoadScorecardEvent( ) {
 super( EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD ); } } } then in a view dispatching like so var devent : LoadScorecardEvent = new LoadScorecardEvent();
 devent.scorecardId = 5;CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent( devent ); and in the command I have public function execute( eventHere : CairngormEvent ) : void
{ var del : MainDelegate = new MainDelegate( this ); del.getScorecard( eventHere.scorecardId );} But this bombs out with a error about scorecardId not in eventHere.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread JesterXL





I'm with you. I've been determing type of 
event based on the event.type in the Command's execute method to get my 
strong-typing back.

- Original Message - 
From: Ralf 
Bokelberg 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data 
payloads
Its really a pity, that we loose all the nice type information 
while going all the way through Cairngorm. Cheers,Ralf. 
On 7/27/06, Douglas 
Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  ah, righto. thanks d00ds. I had this hacked up too much...no 
  worky good. If only I can get that damn RO to calm down now and do 
  what its told! but that's another thread.
  DK
  
  On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,The 
delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I thinkyou just 
need to check to make sure the event you received is yourcustom event 
type and then cast it.so:if (eventHere is 
LoadScorecardEvent) {del.getScorecard( 
LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId 
);}else{// do nothing, or raise 
error, or log warning, or whatever.}best of 
luck,Thunder--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas 
Knudsen"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone 
point me to a example of how to pass data in a cairngormtype 
event?I'm trying the below with  package 
com.mycompany.events { import 
com.adobe.cairngorm.control.CairngormEvent; 
public class LoadScorecardEvent extends 
CairngormEvent 
{ public static var 
EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD: String =  
'LoadScorecardEvent';public 
var 
scorecardId:Number; 
/*** The 
constructor,*/ 
public function LoadScorecardEvent( 
) { 
 
super( EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD 
); 
} } 
} then in a view dispatching like so var devent : 
LoadScorecardEvent = new LoadScorecardEvent(); 
 
devent.scorecardId = 
5;CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent( 
devent ); and in the command I have public 
function execute( eventHere : CairngormEvent ) : void 
{ 
var del : MainDelegate = new MainDelegate( this 
); 
del.getScorecard( eventHere.scorecardId 
);} 
But this bombs out with a error about scorecardId not in eventHere. 
 DK -- Douglas 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread Ralf Bokelberg



The only typesafe solution i can think of, is to abandon CairngormEvents and replace them by methods of the FrontController. Most of the apps i've seen so far don't make use of the runtime changeability anyways. What do we loose if we do it like that? 
Cheers,Ralf. On 7/27/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:









I'm with you. I've been determing type of 
event based on the event.type in the Command's execute method to get my 
strong-typing back.

- Original Message - 
From: 
Ralf 
Bokelberg 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data 
payloads
Its really a pity, that we loose all the nice type information 
while going all the way through Cairngorm. Cheers,Ralf. 
On 7/27/06, Douglas 
Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  ah, righto. thanks d00ds. I had this hacked up too much...no 
  worky good. If only I can get that damn RO to calm down now and do 
  what its told! but that's another thread.
  DK
  
  On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork 
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,The 
delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I thinkyou just 
need to check to make sure the event you received is yourcustom event 
type and then cast it.so:if (eventHere is 
LoadScorecardEvent) {del.getScorecard( 
LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId 
);}else{// do nothing, or raise 
error, or log warning, or whatever.}best of 
luck,Thunder--- In 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Douglas 
Knudsen[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone 
point me to a example of how to pass data in a cairngormtype 
event?I'm trying the below with  package 
com.mycompany.events { import 
com.adobe.cairngorm.control.CairngormEvent; 
public class LoadScorecardEvent extends 
CairngormEvent 
{ public static var 
EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD: String =  
'LoadScorecardEvent';public 
var 
scorecardId:Number; 
/*** The 
constructor,*/ 
public function LoadScorecardEvent( 
) { 
 
super( EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD 
); 
} } 
} then in a view dispatching like so var devent : 
LoadScorecardEvent = new LoadScorecardEvent(); 
 
devent.scorecardId = 
5;CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent( 
devent ); and in the command I have public 
function execute( eventHere : CairngormEvent ) : void 
{ 
var del : MainDelegate = new MainDelegate( this 
); 
del.getScorecard( eventHere.scorecardId 
);} 
But this bombs out with a error about scorecardId not in eventHere. 
 DK -- Douglas 
Knudsen http://www.cubicleman.com
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread JesterXL





Well, my events extend CairngormEvent, so I can 
technically upcast 'em when they get in the Command's execute method. I 
know Steven didn't really dig this idea, but if you case the type, you can 
compare to the Event's constant like:

public static const EVENT_DOSOMETHING:String = 
"doSomething";

function execute(event:CairngormEvent)
{
 switch(event.type)
 {
  case 
MyEvent.EVENT_DOSOMETHING:
  
 someMethod ( MyEvent(event).someTypeSafeProp);
  
 break;
 }
}


- Original Message - 
From: Ralf 
Bokelberg 
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data 
payloads
The only typesafe solution i can think of, is to abandon 
CairngormEvents and replace them by methods of the FrontController. Most of the 
apps i've seen so far don't make use of the runtime changeability anyways. What 
do we loose if we do it like that? Cheers,Ralf. 
On 7/27/06, JesterXL 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  
  I'm with you. I've been determing type of event based on the event.type in the Command's execute method to get my 
  strong-typing back.
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Ralf Bokelberg 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data 
  payloads
  
  
  Its really a pity, that we loose all the nice type information 
  while going all the way through Cairngorm. Cheers,Ralf. 
  On 7/27/06, Douglas 
  Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

ah, righto. thanks d00ds. I had this hacked up too 
much...no worky good. If only I can get that damn RO to calm 
down now and do what its told! but that's another thread.
DK

On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hi,The 
  delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I thinkyou 
  just need to check to make sure the event you received is yourcustom 
  event type and then cast it.so:if (eventHere is 
  LoadScorecardEvent) {del.getScorecard( 
  LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId 
  );}else{// do nothing, or raise 
  error, or log warning, or whatever.}best of 
  luck,Thunder--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas 
  Knudsen"[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: can someone 
  point me to a example of how to pass data in a cairngormtype 
  event?I'm trying the below with  package 
  com.mycompany.events { import 
  com.adobe.cairngorm.control.CairngormEvent; 
  public class LoadScorecardEvent extends 
  CairngormEvent 
  { public static 
  var EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD: String =  
  'LoadScorecardEvent';public 
  var 
  scorecardId:Number; 
  /*** 
  The 
  constructor,*/ 
  public function LoadScorecardEvent( 
  ) { 
   
  super( EVENT_LOAD_SCORECARD 
  ); 
  } } 
  } then in a view dispatching like so var devent : 
  LoadScorecardEvent = new LoadScorecardEvent(); 
   
  devent.scorecardId = 
  5;CairngormEventDispatcher.getInstance().dispatchEvent( 
  devent ); and in the command I have public 
  function execute( eventHere : CairngormEvent ) : void 
  { 
  var del : MainDelegate = new MainDelegate( this 
  ); 
  del.getScorecard( eventHere.scorecardId 
  );} 
  But this bombs out with a error about scorecardId not in eventHere. 
   DK -- Douglas 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread JesterXL
My initial frustration was I'd create this event class, which allowed 
strong-typing, like so:

package
{
import com.adobe.control.CairngormEvent;

public class MyEvent extends CairngormEvent
{
public static const ACTION:String = action;

public var someID:int;

public function MyEvent(p_type:String, p_someID:int)
{
super(p_type);
someID = p_someID;
}
}
}

So, my event now has context.  If I need to have my Command get a person 
record from the DB for example, this event will contain the payload it 
needs; the person ID I'm looking for.  However, by the time it gets to the 
Command, it's a base class, the CairngormEvent.

package
{
public class MyCommand implements AllTheInterfacesEct
{
public function execute ( event:CairngormEvent )
{
trace(event.someID); // faith based programming
}
}
}

Now, for some, their Events are directly linked to Commands, like so:

LoginEvent will fire LoginCommand which calls LoginDelegate
GetPersonEvent will fire GetPersonCommand which calls GetPersonDelegate

At a simple level, yes, this'll do.  So, you can acutally make some 
assumptions in the above; if you play by the default Cairngorm rules, you 
KNOW by convention that your MyCommand class will get a MyEvent, so you 
could risk up-casting, like so:

someDelegateMethod ( MyEvent ( event ) . someID );

...that's faith, though.  You'll get an exception if for some reason that's 
not the real event.  It'd be better if the compiler caught that vs. the 
runtime, before it's a problem.  For me, I use multiple events inside 
Commands, so it's exacerbated.  The Controller keeps all of this under tabs, 
but again, it'd be nice if MyCommand for example GOT MyEvent in the execute. 
I supposed you could make that assumption; not sure if it'd compile. 
Anyway, convention over strict-typing is ok since a lot of conventions teams 
follow can do the above, for example, and assume you'll get what you need.


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From: ben.clinkinbeard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:22 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads


Forgive the dense noob here, but how is the type info lost? I thought
that by subclassing CairngormEvent you get basic checking and then you
can just do a cast or 'event as MyCutomEvent' inside the execute
method. I guess I am just not clear on what the issue is and where the
problem lies. Can someone edumacate me?

Thanks,
Ben
http://www.returnundefined.com/

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, my events extend CairngormEvent, so I can technically upcast
'em when they get in the Command's execute method.  I know Steven
didn't really dig this idea, but if you case the type, you can compare
to the Event's constant like:

 public static const EVENT_DOSOMETHING:String = doSomething;

 function execute(event:CairngormEvent)
 {
 switch(event.type)
 {
 case MyEvent.EVENT_DOSOMETHING:
 someMethod ( MyEvent(event).someTypeSafeProp);
 break;
 }
 }


 - Original Message - 
 From: Ralf Bokelberg
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads


 The only typesafe solution i can think of, is to abandon
CairngormEvents and replace them by methods of the FrontController.
Most of the apps i've seen so far don't make use of the runtime
changeability anyways. What do we loose if we do it like that?

 Cheers,
 Ralf.


 On 7/27/06, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I'm with you.  I've been determing type of event based on the
event.type in the Command's execute method to get my strong-typing back.

   - Original Message - 
   From: Ralf Bokelberg
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:58 PM
   Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads


   Its really a pity, that we loose all the nice type information
while going all the way through Cairngorm.

   Cheers,
   Ralf.


   On 7/27/06, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ah, righto.  thanks d00ds.  I had this hacked up too much...no
worky good.   If only I can get that damn RO to calm down now and do
what its told!  but that's another thread.


 DK



 On 7/27/06, thunderstumpgesatwork  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi,

   The delegate function thinks you just have a CairngormEvent. I
think
   you just need to check to make sure the event you received is your
   custom event type and then cast it.

   so:

   if (eventHere is LoadScorecardEvent)
   {
   del.getScorecard( LoadScorecardEvent(eventHere).scorecardId );
   }
   else
   {
   // do nothing, or raise error, or log warning, or whatever.
   }


   best of luck,
   Thunder

   --- In flexcoders

Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads

2006-07-27 Thread JesterXL
5 coffee's and 3 RedBull's later, I'm running on fumes, so don't really have 
intelligent answers for you, just guesses.

Don't know, I guess you're right.

Find some way to either A) follow the convention a Command will get the 
event class of a similiar name, and thus feel safe in casting it or B ) find 
some way to strongly type that parameter.  You can't up-cast function 
arguments, though, so it's kind of stuck as CairngormEvent... I think.

For the multiple events, yes, you are correct.  I've definately taken for 
granted all my other stuff has worked for that very fact.  Oops.

Actually, at this point, no clue... wtf were you talking about anyway, 
Bokel?

- Original Message - 
From: ben.clinkinbeard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:50 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads


Doesn't execute() accept a CairngromEvent for the sake of polymorphism
though? How could you do things any differently and still preserve
that aspect? Additionally, if you want your Commands to support
multiple types of events isn't it essential that execute() accept a
superclass or common interface? Are you just wishing AS supported
method overloading or is there something I am still not getting?

Thanks,
Ben
http://www.returnundefined.com/

--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, JesterXL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My initial frustration was I'd create this event class, which allowed
 strong-typing, like so:

 package
 {
 import com.adobe.control.CairngormEvent;

 public class MyEvent extends CairngormEvent
 {
 public static const ACTION:String = action;

 public var someID:int;

 public function MyEvent(p_type:String, p_someID:int)
 {
 super(p_type);
 someID = p_someID;
 }
 }
 }

 So, my event now has context.  If I need to have my Command get a
person
 record from the DB for example, this event will contain the payload it
 needs; the person ID I'm looking for.  However, by the time it gets
to the
 Command, it's a base class, the CairngormEvent.

 package
 {
 public class MyCommand implements AllTheInterfacesEct
 {
 public function execute ( event:CairngormEvent )
 {
 trace(event.someID); // faith based programming
 }
 }
 }

 Now, for some, their Events are directly linked to Commands, like so:

 LoginEvent will fire LoginCommand which calls LoginDelegate
 GetPersonEvent will fire GetPersonCommand which calls GetPersonDelegate

 At a simple level, yes, this'll do.  So, you can acutally make some
 assumptions in the above; if you play by the default Cairngorm
rules, you
 KNOW by convention that your MyCommand class will get a MyEvent, so you
 could risk up-casting, like so:

 someDelegateMethod ( MyEvent ( event ) . someID );

 ...that's faith, though.  You'll get an exception if for some reason
that's
 not the real event.  It'd be better if the compiler caught that vs. the
 runtime, before it's a problem.  For me, I use multiple events inside
 Commands, so it's exacerbated.  The Controller keeps all of this
under tabs,
 but again, it'd be nice if MyCommand for example GOT MyEvent in the
execute.
 I supposed you could make that assumption; not sure if it'd compile.
 Anyway, convention over strict-typing is ok since a lot of
conventions teams
 follow can do the above, for example, and assume you'll get what you
need.


 - Original Message - 
 From: ben.clinkinbeard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 10:22 PM
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads


 Forgive the dense noob here, but how is the type info lost? I thought
 that by subclassing CairngormEvent you get basic checking and then you
 can just do a cast or 'event as MyCutomEvent' inside the execute
 method. I guess I am just not clear on what the issue is and where the
 problem lies. Can someone edumacate me?

 Thanks,
 Ben
 http://www.returnundefined.com/

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, JesterXL jesterxl@ wrote:
 
  Well, my events extend CairngormEvent, so I can technically upcast
 'em when they get in the Command's execute method.  I know Steven
 didn't really dig this idea, but if you case the type, you can compare
 to the Event's constant like:
 
  public static const EVENT_DOSOMETHING:String = doSomething;
 
  function execute(event:CairngormEvent)
  {
  switch(event.type)
  {
  case MyEvent.EVENT_DOSOMETHING:
  someMethod ( MyEvent(event).someTypeSafeProp);
  break;
  }
  }
 
 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ralf Bokelberg
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:20 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: cairngorm Events and data payloads
 
 
  The only typesafe solution i can think of, is to abandon
 CairngormEvents and replace them by methods of the FrontController.
 Most of the apps i've seen so far don't

Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-26 Thread Ryan Stewart


Thanks guys, I know the usual method for Cairngorm events, and I'm using that as well, but in this case I'm doing some random voodo magic with dynamically generated components and I was hoping I could set an event listener for each of those components to capture an associated CairngormEvent. It doesn't sound like I can do that.Thanks again,Ryan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:22 AM -07:00To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm EventsAs Tom says, usually a Carirngorm event is dispatched to the FrontController, which in turn executes an instance of a command.  And ultimatly, the ModelLocator gets updated and the view reacts via binding.  Presently however, there isn't a mechanism to listen, for the result of the dispatched Cairngorm event, from the view.Hoping to change that.  Your question is valid and appropriate.-TH--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 July 2006 07:07, Ryan Stewart wrote:  I'm still not entirely clear on the event model in Flex 2, so hopefully  this is an easy question.  I want to add an event listener in one of my  flex view components that will listen for a CairngormEvent to be dispatched  and then run a function within that component.  Cairngorm would normally say that if you want something to happen when an  Event is dispatched, you put that code in the Controller associated with the  Event.  --  Tom Chiverton    This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.  Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF.  A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society.  CONFIDENTIALITY  This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged.  If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents.  If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008.  For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-26 Thread JesterXL





If you use dispatchEvent, yes. If you use 
CairngormEventDispatcher, no.

- Original Message - 
From: Ryan Stewart 

To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

Thanks guys, I 
know the usual method for Cairngorm events, and I'm using that as well, but in 
this case I'm doing some random voodo magic with dynamically generated 
components and I was hoping I could set an event listener for each of those 
components to capture an associated CairngormEvent. It doesn't sound like I can 
do that.

Thanks 
again,

Ryan


-Original 
Message-
From: 
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Sent: Wednesday, 
July 26, 2006 9:22 AM -07:00
To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: 
[flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

As Tom says, usually a 
Carirngorm event is dispatched to the 
FrontController, 
which in turn executes an instance of a command. 
And ultimatly, the 
ModelLocator gets updated and the view reacts via 
binding. 


Presently however, 
there isn't a mechanism to listen, for the result 
of the dispatched 
Cairngorm event, from the view.

Hoping to change 
that. Your question is valid and appropriate.

-TH

--- In 
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wrote:

 On Wednesday 
26 July 2006 07:07, Ryan Stewart wrote:
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still not entirely clear on the event model in Flex 2, so 
hopefully
  this is 
an easy question. I want to add an event listener in 
one of 
my
  flex 
view components that will listen ! for a CairngormEvent to be 
dispatched
  and then 
run a function within that component.
 
 Cairngorm 
would normally say that if you want something to happen 
when an 

 Event is 
dispatched, you put that code in the Controller 
associated with the 
 
Event.
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

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I figure that's what I have to do, just create a custom event and dispatch the event in the onResult method.Thanks again all,Ryan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 3:35 PM -07:00To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm EventsIf you use dispatchEvent, yes.  If you use CairngormEventDispatcher, no.- Original Message - From: Ryan Stewart To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 11:27 AMSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm EventsThanks guys, I know the usual method for Cairngorm events, and I'm using that as well, but in this case I'm doing some random voodo magic with dynamically generated components and I was hoping I could set an event listener for each of those components to capture an associated CairngormEvent. It doesn't sound like I can do that.Thanks again,Ryan-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 9:22 AM -07:00To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm EventsAs Tom says, usually a Carirngorm event is dispatched to the FrontController, which in turn executes an instance of a command. And ultimatly, the ModelLocator gets updated and the view reacts via binding. Presently however, there isn't a mechanism to listen, for the result of the dispatched Cairngorm event, from the view.Hoping to change that. Your question is valid and appropriate.-TH--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 26 July 2006 07:07, Ryan Stewart wrote:  I'm still not entirely clear on the event model in Flex 2, so hopefully  this is an easy question. I want to add an event listener in one of my  flex view components that will listen ! for a CairngormEvent to be dispatched  and then run a function within that component.  Cairngorm would normally say that if you want something to happen when an  Event is dispatched, you put that code in the Controller associated with the  Event.  --  Tom Chiverton    This emai! l is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.  Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered! office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society.  CONFIDENTIALITY  This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. I! f you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008.!  For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-26 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 26 July 2006 16:35, JesterXL wrote:
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Cairngorm Events

2006-07-26 Thread JesterXL
Not anymore, no, as he's usually embedded at the top of the tree.   You 
could utilize ViewLocator I guess, but that is bleh.

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