Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
On Feb 16, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Anatole Tartakovsky wrote: Jon, That is assumption based on the current status quo and not counting Adobe's and community capabilities and hardware in 15 month from now. Touchscreen is very questionable in most cases - slow and not very accessible in real life. I would expect other features to be way more important - as iPhone user but also early adopter of bunch of linux/windows/palm/nokia/ android smartphones as well as great dumb phones that have no problem to serve as trunking devices/routers for laptops. Here is what I think Flash 10 is destined to do: Sure, things are certainly going to change. My comment was mainly restricted to that of the Palm devices. I don't even own an iPhone btw (ATT service quality where I live is abysmal) ... but I do have an iPod touch. 3. Integration APIs are really important - exposing bluetooth, accelerometers, GPS, camera, photo and multitude of voice codecs for input and output and all other standard capabilities. I definitely agree with that. However, I wouldn't expect any integration of Flash technology other than camera/mic for quite a long time. Those are very platform specific functionalities that are unlikely to make it into Flash in the near term. Those APIs are certainly available on devices that have that capability. 3a. I wonder if Adobe can work on simultaneous integration of their technologies into supporting platforms the way Apple built their business - building ecosystem - either with free or low cost licensing of embeddable technology. Adobe already does embedded licensing but I figure that low cost isn't really in the cards most of the time. That's something the developer needs to take up with Adobe directly. Many embedded devices (like your description of a GPS display screen) utilize Flash as the primary display model, and Adobe prices their licensing for embedded devices based on those types of assumptions. I really think that GMaps on iPhone are way better then top of the line car navigation system based on stale hard drive data. But iPhone screen is not usable while driving. On contrary, 7+ car display is perfect - but you can't transfer phones display there. Perfect application for Adobe display technology. It's only better because of two things - design and interactivity. Blame that on the software developers for the embedded devices. Not making excuses, but embedded systems in vehicles have a very unique set of human factors issues. Certainly going to be exciting to see where it goes. cheers, Jon
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
Hope will be soon... Many of us have an iPhone and need Flash Player 10 inside! Adobe, Apple make it happen! :) Thanks C. 2009/2/16 oneworld95 oneworl...@yahoo.com Any timeline on the iPhone Flash implementation? My boss is an iPhone fanatic; the apps we build need to work on that. Thanks. - Alex C --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, app.developer appdevelo...@... wrote: A big THANK YOU to Adobe and the necessary mobile vendors that made this happen. Precia --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com flexcoders%40yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton tom.chiverton@ wrote: It seems full blown Flash Player 10 (not lite !) is to come to just about every mobile smartphone except the iPhone (Apples fault): http://tinyurl.com/d68voq -- Tom Chiverton Helping to heterogeneously envisioneer bleeding-edge fine-grained impactful customized action-items This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at Halliwells LLP, 3 Hardman Square, Spinningfields, Manchester, M3 3EB. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office together with a list of those non members who are referred to as partners. We use the word “partner†to refer to a member of the LLP, or an employee or consultant with equivalent standing and qualifications. Regulated by the Solicitors Regulation Authority. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 2500. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com.
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
Carlos, just get a Palm Pre ;) Same coolness but with Flash. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:flexcoders-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: flexcoders-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
Hope Apple will see that other phones like this Palm Pre, with features like FP10, can make the iPhone goes down. there's to much flash out there on the web and they need to open the doors to all that content. It's a matter of common sense... 2009/2/17 Weyert de Boer w...@innerfuse.biz Carlos, just get a Palm Pre ;) Same coolness but with Flash. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
- Original Message - From: Carlos Rovira To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 11:55 PM Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go Hope Apple will see that other phones like this Palm Pre, with features like FP10, can make the iPhone goes down. there's to much flash out there on the web and they need to open the doors to all that content. It's a matter of common sense... Apple like to make money from their Appstore without having to compete with flash apps. 2009/2/17 Weyert de Boer w...@innerfuse.biz Carlos, just get a Palm Pre ;) Same coolness but with Flash. -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: Hope Apple will see that other phones like this Palm Pre, with features like FP10, can make the iPhone goes down Not if the touch screen and the rest of the UI stink. The touch screen is, by far, the most important aspect of any smart phone, or device (like the ipod touch). There's no other device that comes even remotely close in terms of touch screen usability. - j
Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flas 10 on mobile is a go
Jon, That is assumption based on the current status quo and not counting Adobe's and community capabilities and hardware in 15 month from now. Touchscreen is very questionable in most cases - slow and not very accessible in real life. I would expect other features to be way more important - as iPhone user but also early adopter of bunch of linux/windows/palm/nokia/android smartphones as well as great dumb phones that have no problem to serve as trunking devices/routers for laptops. Here is what I think Flash 10 is destined to do: 1. Break application jail - I want build application in the same environment - now I have to manage 3 guys coding for different platforms ( not counting Flex) and have to work in all of them. Single platform to deliver apps not controlled by apple store profit center is long overdue. 2. Break connectivity jail. I expect voice to be more important then touchscreen. While iPhone google apps do not work well, Jott does - but lack of integration and costs of calls are show stoppers for adoption. Flash can fix that with great mashups. 3. Integration APIs are really important - exposing bluetooth, accelerometers, GPS, camera, photo and multitude of voice codecs for input and output and all other standard capabilities. 3a. I wonder if Adobe can work on simultaneous integration of their technologies into supporting platforms the way Apple built their business - building ecosystem - either with free or low cost licensing of embeddable technology. I really think that GMaps on iPhone are way better then top of the line car navigation system based on stale hard drive data. But iPhone screen is not usable while driving. On contrary, 7+ car display is perfect - but you can't transfer phones display there. Perfect application for Adobe display technology. Sincerely, Anatole Tartakovsky Farata Systems On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:57 PM, Jon Bradley jbrad...@postcentral.comwrote: On Feb 16, 2009, at 6:55 PM, Carlos Rovira wrote: Hope Apple will see that other phones like this Palm Pre, with features like FP10, can make the iPhone goes down Not if the touch screen and the rest of the UI stink. The touch screen is, by far, the most important aspect of any smart phone, or device (like the ipod touch). There's no other device that comes even remotely close in terms of touch screen usability. - j
