Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
Mike, I played the sounds on the Heil site url you supplied. I sort of agree with your Swiss Army knife comment but not in the way I think you intended it. I agree that different colorations (eq's) are needed for different purposes. This can be approached by selecting from a huge array of available mikes (your Swiss Army knife approach, I think) with or without different down stream eq's. My claim is that once you have electronically captured an accurate representation of the op's voice this representation can be electronically manipulated to get the result of any existing mike or mike to come along in the future. This is my use of Swiss Army knife, eq (and or other electronic manipulation) to get whatever characteristic(s) desired. The required mike is one that can accurately capture a representation of the op's voice. Once that is achieved any effect possible to achieve by means of other microphones can be duplicated with electronic processing of the accurate signal from the Hi-Fi mike. Thanks again for the URL to the recorded sounds. That audio clip tends to make my case for me, a good mike, many possible results, a Swiss Army knife of different results available through processing. The Heil PR 40 may not be the highest of Hi-Fi mikes but it is sufficient for my purposes and apparently for a bunch of Flexers. Maybe not perfect, but good enough. I hope to catch your melodious tones on the HF bands. 73 Patrick AF5CK Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife).You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
I personally have a PR40 for my Flex5K. I was instructed to use the TX EQ and compander to tailor the audio on the 5K. I have been told that my audio was distorted with the TX EQ and compander. The audio on the PR40 seems very pleasant without adding any external tailoring, as I have been told by friends in my local roundtable weekly ragchew. I purchased the PR40 to help reduce my RF ingress issues with my 5K. It did help, but I have been also told that the audio in my 5K is the same with my expensive PR40 than a mainstream Yaesu microphone that I was using before purchasing the PR40. Yes, the Heil PR40 looks nice, it has great specifications, but I would challenge people to put on different microphones, (if you have access to them) and compare the audio between the microphones. You might just save yourself a bunch of money, as a more inexpensive microphone might just serve your purpose. My two cents from my experience. 73 Robert KB6QXM On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:13 AM, Patrick Greenlee patric...@windstream.net wrote: Mike, I played the sounds on the Heil site url you supplied. I sort of agree with your Swiss Army knife comment but not in the way I think you intended it. I agree that different colorations (eq's) are needed for different purposes. This can be approached by selecting from a huge array of available mikes (your Swiss Army knife approach, I think) with or without different down stream eq's. My claim is that once you have electronically captured an accurate representation of the op's voice this representation can be electronically manipulated to get the result of any existing mike or mike to come along in the future. This is my use of Swiss Army knife, eq (and or other electronic manipulation) to get whatever characteristic(s) desired. The required mike is one that can accurately capture a representation of the op's voice. Once that is achieved any effect possible to achieve by means of other microphones can be duplicated with electronic processing of the accurate signal from the Hi-Fi mike. Thanks again for the URL to the recorded sounds. That audio clip tends to make my case for me, a good mike, many possible results, a Swiss Army knife of different results available through processing. The Heil PR 40 may not be the highest of Hi-Fi mikes but it is sufficient for my purposes and apparently for a bunch of Flexers. Maybe not perfect, but good enough. I hope to catch your melodious tones on the HF bands. 73 Patrick AF5CK Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife). You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
You cannot pass any of the high end frequencies of the PR40. If your transmission BW is 2.5 kHZ, and the low frequency roll off is 200 Hz, the high end frequency to be transmitted is 2700 Hz. Everything from 3000 Hz to 16000 Hz is left in the mic cable. Still it’s a nice microphone if you shape it properly. 73 ES DX, Gary -- AB9M -Original Message- From: Robert Costa Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:32 AM To: Patrick Greenlee ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I personally have a PR40 for my Flex5K. I was instructed to use the TX EQ and compander to tailor the audio on the 5K. I have been told that my audio was distorted with the TX EQ and compander. The audio on the PR40 seems very pleasant without adding any external tailoring, as I have been told by friends in my local roundtable weekly ragchew. I purchased the PR40 to help reduce my RF ingress issues with my 5K. It did help, but I have been also told that the audio in my 5K is the same with my expensive PR40 than a mainstream Yaesu microphone that I was using before purchasing the PR40. Yes, the Heil PR40 looks nice, it has great specifications, but I would challenge people to put on different microphones, (if you have access to them) and compare the audio between the microphones. You might just save yourself a bunch of money, as a more inexpensive microphone might just serve your purpose. My two cents from my experience. 73 Robert KB6QXM On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:13 AM, Patrick Greenlee patric...@windstream.net wrote: Mike, I played the sounds on the Heil site url you supplied. I sort of agree with your Swiss Army knife comment but not in the way I think you intended it. I agree that different colorations (eq's) are needed for different purposes. This can be approached by selecting from a huge array of available mikes (your Swiss Army knife approach, I think) with or without different down stream eq's. My claim is that once you have electronically captured an accurate representation of the op's voice this representation can be electronically manipulated to get the result of any existing mike or mike to come along in the future. This is my use of Swiss Army knife, eq (and or other electronic manipulation) to get whatever characteristic(s) desired. The required mike is one that can accurately capture a representation of the op's voice. Once that is achieved any effect possible to achieve by means of other microphones can be duplicated with electronic processing of the accurate signal from the Hi-Fi mike. Thanks again for the URL to the recorded sounds. That audio clip tends to make my case for me, a good mike, many possible results, a Swiss Army knife of different results available through processing. The Heil PR 40 may not be the highest of Hi-Fi mikes but it is sufficient for my purposes and apparently for a bunch of Flexers. Maybe not perfect, but good enough. I hope to catch your melodious tones on the HF bands. 73 Patrick AF5CK Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife).You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
I am happy to hear that everyone is learning something about transmitted audio. It can be a can or worms dicussion. :) I just purchased a Koss headset with a boom mic for about $30. I love the headset, but the mic audio is really muddy. I don't have it in front of me, but I think it was called a UB40. Fortunately, I have a couple Heil Elements that I will use as a replacement. Too bad you can't just buy elements anymore. I used my ProSet for CQWW, and it was really starting to annoy me after about 3 hours of the contest. It seems to be squeezing my head. The Flex does allow for some amazing opportunities. Good luck on Sweepstakes for everyone. Mike va3mw On Nov 1, 2013, at 1:33 PM, GARY HUBER glhu...@msn.com wrote: You cannot pass any of the high end frequencies of the PR40. If your transmission BW is 2.5 kHZ, and the low frequency roll off is 200 Hz, the high end frequency to be transmitted is 2700 Hz. Everything from 3000 Hz to 16000 Hz is left in the mic cable. Still it’s a nice microphone if you shape it properly. 73 ES DX, Gary -- AB9M -Original Message- From: Robert Costa Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 11:32 AM To: Patrick Greenlee ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I personally have a PR40 for my Flex5K. I was instructed to use the TX EQ and compander to tailor the audio on the 5K. I have been told that my audio was distorted with the TX EQ and compander. The audio on the PR40 seems very pleasant without adding any external tailoring, as I have been told by friends in my local roundtable weekly ragchew. I purchased the PR40 to help reduce my RF ingress issues with my 5K. It did help, but I have been also told that the audio in my 5K is the same with my expensive PR40 than a mainstream Yaesu microphone that I was using before purchasing the PR40. Yes, the Heil PR40 looks nice, it has great specifications, but I would challenge people to put on different microphones, (if you have access to them) and compare the audio between the microphones. You might just save yourself a bunch of money, as a more inexpensive microphone might just serve your purpose. My two cents from my experience. 73 Robert KB6QXM On Friday, November 1, 2013 8:13 AM, Patrick Greenlee patric...@windstream.net wrote: Mike, I played the sounds on the Heil site url you supplied. I sort of agree with your Swiss Army knife comment but not in the way I think you intended it. I agree that different colorations (eq's) are needed for different purposes. This can be approached by selecting from a huge array of available mikes (your Swiss Army knife approach, I think) with or without different down stream eq's. My claim is that once you have electronically captured an accurate representation of the op's voice this representation can be electronically manipulated to get the result of any existing mike or mike to come along in the future. This is my use of Swiss Army knife, eq (and or other electronic manipulation) to get whatever characteristic(s) desired. The required mike is one that can accurately capture a representation of the op's voice. Once that is achieved any effect possible to achieve by means of other microphones can be duplicated with electronic processing of the accurate signal from the Hi-Fi mike. Thanks again for the URL to the recorded sounds. That audio clip tends to make my case for me, a good mike, many possible results, a Swiss Army knife of different results available through processing. The Heil PR 40 may not be the highest of Hi-Fi mikes but it is sufficient for my purposes and apparently for a bunch of Flexers. Maybe not perfect, but good enough. I hope to catch your melodious tones on the HF bands. 73 Patrick AF5CK Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife).You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
My on air experiments verify Patrick's statements below. I have used standard computer headsets and used the PowerSDR audio shaping to distort my signal for signal punch and quality. I got the same great audio comments with those mikes as I did with with my Heil BM-10 mike. I have never received a negative comment with any on the mikes. I concur completely with Patrick's last sentence. 73, Bill NJ1H On 10/31/2013 10:13 PM, Patrick Greenlee wrote: Don't you think a good Hi-Fi mike that accurately reproduces the sound field driving it is all the mike you need? Once you have an accurate electronic representation of the actual audio you can process/distort it in any way needed/wanted. It isn't required to have a mike distorted in some particular way to get the final distorted audio desired. There is no sound quality reproduced by any microphone that can not, in theory, be electronically manufactured from a starting point of an accurate Hi-Fi representation of the original sound field (operator's voice.) There was a time when shortcomings in what was doable in electronic processing of a microphone signal made selecting microphones with some special distortion built in a necessity to achieve certain desired, for whatever reason, distortions of the true audio input. Back in the olden times when I couldn't afford fancy audio processor equipment to compete with or emulate the DX gurus I'd just tuck a stick in the waist band of my jockey shorts, take it up like a tourniquet about 5-9 revolutions (depending on the desired effect) and then shout into the microphone through a toilet paper tube. On-air comparisons rated my thrifty approach the equivalent of the big guru's RF processors, companders, and compressors. Patrick AF5CK -Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife). You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:36 PM, KC2TN kc...@comcast.net wrote: For an excellent guide to setting up a Flex audio chain see this YouTube video. http://www.eteksciki.info/video/2trJjUObLkY.html There are enough adjustments in the embedded mixers and equalizers that most microphones can be made to sound great! If you don't overdrive the DIGITAL audio chain. Also, for a textual copy of these adjustments see: http://www.w1aex.com/psdrgain/psdrgain.html Joe - KC2TN Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
All: Wow! Thanks for the many great replies to my request for help - both via the list as well as several direct. This is one great list, populated a bunch of super helpful hams. Planning on devoting the weekend to CW Sweepstakes and then getting down to making the selection of a mike. Hope to hear the members of the Flex list on the bands. Thanks again! 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
This will open a big can of worms,. :) But, you will find the the Heil mics are purpose designed for SSB communications. Every ham needs to listen to Bob on Triagulation http://twit.tv/tri8 ... it is a long podcast, but the discussion on Bell Labs was very cool. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
10 guys will offer up at least 12-15 opinions. I use a Heil PR 40. I get good audio reports. Fellow Flexers have recorded and rebroadcast me so I could hear myself and it sounded (for better or worse) just like what I have come to know is my voice. I have heard other Flexers using Heil PR 40 and they sounded broadcast quality and this was without a bunch of high dollar accessory audio gear. Of course if you go for the penetrating DX sound (like fingernails on the chalkboard) the PR 40 will still work but its quality is wasted, in my less than humble opinion. I'm sure there are other solutions that would be satisfactory. I haven't tried a lot of mikes on my F5KA. The PR 40 was suggested to me. I liked the ones I heard on the air. I bought one and am completely satisfied. A quote from a fictional doctor on Mash (TV not movie), I do one thing, I do it well, I move on. I can only sound so much like myself. I can only be 100% satisfied. Again, there are probably other good answers but I have other problems to work on and consider the mike issue solved. Best of luck to you and 73 Patrick AF5CK -Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 10:08 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? This will open a big can of worms,. :) But, you will find the the Heil mics are purpose designed for SSB communications. Every ham needs to listen to Bob on Triagulation http://twit.tv/tri8 ... it is a long podcast, but the discussion on Bell Labs was very cool. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
Mike, VA3MW Thanks for the link. What a history Don, kd6hq -Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:08 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? This will open a big can of worms,. :) But, you will find the the Heil mics are purpose designed for SSB communications. Every ham needs to listen to Bob on Triagulation http://twit.tv/tri8 ... it is a long podcast, but the discussion on Bell Labs was very cool. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
For an excellent guide to setting up a Flex audio chain see this YouTube video. http://www.eteksciki.info/video/2trJjUObLkY.html There are enough adjustments in the embedded mixers and equalizers that most microphones can be made to sound great! If you don't overdrive the DIGITAL audio chain. Also, for a textual copy of these adjustments see: http://www.w1aex.com/psdrgain/psdrgain.html Joe - KC2TN Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife).You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:36 PM, KC2TN kc...@comcast.net wrote: For an excellent guide to setting up a Flex audio chain see this YouTube video. http://www.eteksciki.info/video/2trJjUObLkY.html There are enough adjustments in the embedded mixers and equalizers that most microphones can be made to sound great! If you don't overdrive the DIGITAL audio chain. Also, for a textual copy of these adjustments see: http://www.w1aex.com/psdrgain/psdrgain.html Joe - KC2TN Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation?
Don't you think a good Hi-Fi mike that accurately reproduces the sound field driving it is all the mike you need? Once you have an accurate electronic representation of the actual audio you can process/distort it in any way needed/wanted. It isn't required to have a mike distorted in some particular way to get the final distorted audio desired. There is no sound quality reproduced by any microphone that can not, in theory, be electronically manufactured from a starting point of an accurate Hi-Fi representation of the original sound field (operator's voice.) There was a time when shortcomings in what was doable in electronic processing of a microphone signal made selecting microphones with some special distortion built in a necessity to achieve certain desired, for whatever reason, distortions of the true audio input. Back in the olden times when I couldn't afford fancy audio processor equipment to compete with or emulate the DX gurus I'd just tuck a stick in the waist band of my jockey shorts, take it up like a tourniquet about 5-9 revolutions (depending on the desired effect) and then shout into the microphone through a toilet paper tube. On-air comparisons rated my thrifty approach the equivalent of the big guru's RF processors, companders, and compressors. Patrick AF5CK -Original Message- From: Michael Walker Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 3:51 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Microphone Recommendation? I'm glad you enjoyed it. Personally, it is about getting the message through. I just ran CQWW and I know that if I had not used the HC5 element (really sharp and annoying) there are many stations that would have not copied me. I also can honestly say that those that were using a DX like shaping, I had problems copying. There is no 1 perfect element (just like a swiss army knife).You need different 'shapes' for different tasks. Listen to this about the HC6. Pay attention to how each of his shapes sound. http://www.heilsound.com/amateur/press/hc6.mp3 I recorded all of my 1600 QSO's from CQWW. I will try to find some great DX audio and some really bad DX audio. It won't be until next week though. When I do, I will share them. Mike va3mw On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 4:36 PM, KC2TN kc...@comcast.net wrote: For an excellent guide to setting up a Flex audio chain see this YouTube video. http://www.eteksciki.info/video/2trJjUObLkY.html There are enough adjustments in the embedded mixers and equalizers that most microphones can be made to sound great! If you don't overdrive the DIGITAL audio chain. Also, for a textual copy of these adjustments see: http://www.w1aex.com/psdrgain/psdrgain.html Joe - KC2TN Sent from my iPad On Oct 31, 2013, at 9:29 AM, TM tm.st...@verizon.net wrote: Well, I am finally getting around to buying a mike for my Flex 3000. Have really enjoyed CW and some of the digital modes with it for the last two years and would like to give SSB a shot. The last mike I bought was a D-104, and the last phone entry in my logs dates to the 70s. So, just wondering what the Flex users have found to be a good choice. Doubt that I will use it a bunch, so would probably go for something other than top of the line, studio grade. Thanks for any suggestions. 73, Tom K1FR ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ No infections found in this incoming message Scanned by iolo System Shield http://www.iolo.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
