[Flightgear-devel] Re: Custom Scenery for Lake Constance

2005-08-20 Thread Georg Vollnhals

Hi Ralf,
I am a pure FlightGear user (since very early versions) and scanning the 
developers mailing list regularly.
After your announcement I first flew the scenery from EDNY two days ago and now 
downloaded, installed your improvements and did several VFR flights with my 
ICAO chart and a more detailled street chart. Congrats! This is really a big 
step forward to increase the possibility of realistic VFR flying (next version 
with modelled NOVEMBER and ECHO :-) ?).
I did some improvements of my local scenery the last 2 months with FlightGear Scenery Designer (which works pretty well) but to get instructions how to do it more economicly with GISS tools would be very nice!!! As TerraGear only works under LINUX I also did a Fedora Linux install this morning and will be sweating the next weeks to get familiar with your OS as development for FG seems to be easier with the right basics (there are also other reasons to do some more work under LINUX now :-) ). 
As I did more then 2/3 of my simming time with FlightGear the last months I already decided to improve the local scenery which is pretty usable but too wrong in detail. With your help (tutorial) and after getting LINUX and TerraGear to a point where I can use it I would like to do so and (naturally) share my work with all interested when there will be a place to put it.

Thank you once again for sharing your work with us
(vielen Dank, Ralf!)
Best regards
Georg EDDW Bremen




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear freezes (float point interrupt)

2005-08-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I believe I have fixed my freezing problem by removing Xorg and moving back to 
XFree.

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Custom Scenery for Lake Constance

2005-08-20 Thread Ralf Gerlich

Hi,

Georg Vollnhals schrieb:

Hi Ralf,
I am a pure FlightGear user (since very early versions) and scanning the 
developers mailing list regularly.
After your announcement I first flew the scenery from EDNY two days ago 
and now downloaded, installed your improvements and did several VFR 
flights with my ICAO chart and a more detailled street chart. Congrats! 
This is really a big step forward to increase the possibility of 
realistic VFR flying (next version with modelled NOVEMBER and ECHO :-) ?).


For those not familiar with the vicinity of EDNY: NOVEMBER and ECHO are 
compulsory reporting points located above significant street resp. 
railroad tracks. Well, placing reporting points at significant landmarks 
is probably custom at nearly all airports, isn't it?


As I said in the original announcement of the scenery screenshots, a 
huge number of streets, railroads, streams and rivers were digitised. 
You may want to have a look at the Status-page 
(http://web44.netzwerteserver2.de/209.0.html) where the digitalisation 
status of line- and polygon-data is shown.


However, those data did not make it to the current scenery release as 
TerraGear choked, obviously due to the massive density of data. I'm 
going to further investigate this - maybe with a little help from the 
experts on this list - and I hope that we can at some point release at 
least some compromise version between nearly no linedata and 1 FPS 
;-) The current selection of the data subset kept is arbitrary and not 
necessarily sensible.


At this point I'd like to emphasise the great work of my project 
colleague Ingrid, who has done the whole digitalisation of the streets. 
(I'm beginning to feel guilty for all your congratulations being 
attributed to me ;-) )


Regarding VFR-training we'd like to take what we get in terms of 
geographic data, as after all in reality you don't see only those 
streets on the ground which are actually on your map. I'm no pilot 
myself (yet? ;-), but it was confirmed to me that confusing one street 
with another does happend and may be a serious navigation problem.


Ingrid also models the typical cloverleaf-form of freeway intersections 
as significant landmarks. However, in the current release the line 
widths for the access roads seem to be a bit underestimated so these are 
not that easy to identify.


[SNIP]
With your help (tutorial) and 
after getting LINUX and TerraGear to a point where I can use it I would 
like to do so and (naturally) share my work with all interested when 
there will be a place to put it.


My top priorities are now modifying the shapefile-reader in TerraGear to 
also understand line- and point-data, as to replace the quick'n'dirty 
GRASS-specific tool currently mentioned on the project webpage, and then 
writing documentation for getting started with digitalisation with 
GRASS. The latter will take some time, so bear with me.


I did some modifications to the GRASS-CVS-version which help for 
digitalisation and will make patches, scripts and GRASS-binaries for 
Windows/Cygwin and - if necessary - Linux available.


There's still lots of general challenges left. For example, those of you 
who've tried the scenery may have noticed some elevation anomalies in 
the area of the islands and the Rhine mouth near Altenrhein (LSZR). 
There the water has an upwards tendency toward the land mass, which 
doesn't look quite realistic.


Ralf

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Custom Scenery for Lake Constance

2005-08-20 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

 Now I'm done with my PPL - man, am I happy now 

I mean: I passed the test with success, I'll go and 'fetch' the paper
next wednesday and I can't wait flying around where _I_ want to  ;-)

Martin.
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 Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are !
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Custom Scenery for Lake Constance

2005-08-20 Thread Sergio




Martin Spott a crit:

  Martin Spott wrote:

  
  
Now I'm done with my PPL - man, am I happy now 

  
  
I mean: I passed the test with success, I'll go and 'fetch' the paper
next wednesday and I can't wait flying around where _I_ want to  ;-)

Martin.
  

Good, good...

But look carefull at the lake and don't fall into it !

Good ... luck ...!

Sergio












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