Re: [Flightgear-devel] today's 3d clouds commit

2005-05-17 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-17 at 19:54 +0200, Paul Surgeon wrote:
 It's amazing stuff - it even vaporized a 10 meter section of my fencing.
 (10 meters of 2.5mm high tensile fencing wire vanished)

Do you also live on the Highveld? :)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-04 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 22:13 -0400, Chris Metzler wrote:
 On Tue, 03 May 2005 23:59:15 +0200
 Paul Furber wrote:
 
  Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna.
 
 How in the world did you get the Cessna up there!

From the command line :]
fgfs --lat=87.001 --lon=28.001 --altitude=31000

The plane stalled and then as it recovered I paused and snapped the
screenshot. You can see the instruments haven't settled down yet and the
throttle is at idle.
Interestingly the Cessna *does* fly quite nicely at that altitude but
the F-16 just drops out of the sky in a flat spin (for me anyway).

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[Flightgear-devel] Speed of CVS version and flying in the Himalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
Hi all,
I compiled the CVS versions of SimGear and FlightGear last night and
they were roughly 40% faster than 0.9.8 - which is very impressive. Nice
work!
But I still can't fly in the Himalayas for some reason. The e070n30 grid
is untarred and in the correct place and I set Everest's lat and long
from the command line (and altitude=32000 just to be safe!). fgfs just
sits there for ages with the occasional disk access. I've flown all over
Africa and the US so I know I'm installing scenery data correctly - it's
just the Himalayas region which doesn't work. (doesn't work on 0.9.8
either)
I'm running CVS versions from last night on amd64 Gentoo Linux. Any
ideas?
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in the Himalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 13:26 +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 * Paul Furber -- Tuesday 03 May 2005 12:50:
  it's just the Himalayas region which doesn't work. (doesn't work on 0.9.8
  either) I'm running CVS versions from last night on amd64 Gentoo Linux.
  Any ideas?
 
 No. If you had posted a command line that exposes the problem, *hundreds*
 of fgfs developers would have tried to reproduce it, and maybe would have
 been able to reproduce it and to find a solution. But so ...

*Smacks forehead* - ask smart questions idiot! Sorry about that - I'll
be more informative in future :)

 Try adding --log-level=info for a possible hint, 

./fgfs --lat=87 --long=28 --altitude=3 --log-level=info 

seems to initialise everything, including the splash screen, then gets
stuck in the terrain loading. I get thousands of:
no terrain intersection
messages interspersed with:

Updating Sun position
  Gst = 0.824526
t-cur_time = 1115114851
Sun Geodetic lat = 0.275179 Geocentric lat = 0.273428
sun angle relative to current location = 1.24501
  Updating Moon position
t-cur_time = 1115114851
Moon Geodetic lat = -0.184198 Geocentric lat = -0.182992
moon angle relative to current location = 1.7246
Updating light parameters.
  Sun angle = 71.3338
  ambient = 0.2  diffuse = 0.968597  specular = 0.5  sky = 0.953064

Corrupt scenery data perhaps?
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in the Himalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:17 +0200, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 That's an old, well known bug. If you position fgfs exactly on the tile 
 boundaries
 (*integer* lon/lat), the intersection code somehow falls through between the
 tiles. Try this:
 
 
   $ ./fgfs --lat=87.001 --long=28.001 --altitude=3
  

Thanks - this worked a treat. I'm now flying at 32000 feet over the
breathtaking, er, sea. Oops - looks like I picked the wrong tile set :)

 I wouldn't be surprised if someone fixed that bug within ... the next twenty
 years?  ;-)

I feel an itch coming on...

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 11:22 -0600, Phil Cazzola wrote:
 I wasn't sure if you figured this out:
 
 Lat=87 and Long=28  would be a polar location, somewhere north of Murmansk.
 
 Lat =28  and Long=87  is on the China/Nepal border

Thanks - I did have it the right way around when running it - just typed
it in wrong in the previous e-mail. I've just downloaded the e080n20
tileset and there now seems to be a large peak of ~29 000ft on the
China/Nepal border :]

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 14:46 -0400, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote:
 On May 3, 2005 01:52 pm, Paul Furber wrote:
  Thanks - I did have it the right way around when running it - just typed
  it in wrong in the previous e-mail. I've just downloaded the e080n20
  tileset and there now seems to be a large peak of ~29 000ft on the
  China/Nepal border :]
 
 Some screenshots will be nice.

Ask and ye shall receive:

Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. The SouthEast ridge slopes
away to the right and in the saddle on the far right is the top of the
Lhotse face.
http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-1.jpg

An external view:
http://www.paulfurberconsulting.com/images/fgfs-everest-2.jpg

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Speed of CVS version and flying in theHimalayas

2005-05-03 Thread Paul Furber
On Tue, 2005-05-03 at 23:59 +0200, Paul Furber wrote:
 Ask and ye shall receive:
 
 Flying WNW towards the summit in the Cessna. 

Er, that should be NNE...
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