[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 16:32:
 Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 15:16 +0100, Vivian Meazza a écrit :
  --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-enable=1
  --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-cache-size=4096

 Does not work the program overload the data.

I have since a long time --config=$FG_HOME/preferences.xml in my ~/.fgfsrc[1]
(where $FG_HOME is set to $HOME/.fgfs/), and this ~/.fgfs/preferences.xml
file says (among many other things):


nasal
local
script![CDATA[
INIT = func {
setprop(/ai/models/ship/controls/glide-path, 0);
setprop(/sim/sound/volume, 0.6);
setprop(/sim/rendering/clouds3d-cache-size, 4096);
}
settimer(INIT, 0);
]]
/script
/local
/nasal



[1] OK, that's a lie. I *had* that in my ~/.fgfsrc, but I dropped that file
because fgrun overwrote it (which is fixed now), so I moved it into my
~/bin/fgfs wrapper as command line option. But that's just a minor detail.  :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  16:58 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 16:32:
  Le lundi 13 juin 2005  15:16 +0100, Vivian Meazza a crit :
   --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-enable=1
   --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-cache-size=4096
 
  Does not work the program overload the data.
 
 I have since a long time --config=$FG_HOME/preferences.xml in my ~/.fgfsrc[1]
 (where $FG_HOME is set to $HOME/.fgfs/), and this ~/.fgfs/preferences.xml
 file says (among many other things):
 
 
 nasal
 local
 script![CDATA[
 INIT = func {
 setprop(/ai/models/ship/controls/glide-path, 0);
 setprop(/sim/sound/volume, 0.6);
 setprop(/sim/rendering/clouds3d-cache-size, 4096);
 }
 settimer(INIT, 0);
 ]]
 /script
 /local
 /nasal
 
 
 
 [1] OK, that's a lie. I *had* that in my ~/.fgfsrc, but I dropped that file
 because fgrun overwrote it (which is fixed now), so I moved it into my
 ~/bin/fgfs wrapper as command line option. But that's just a minor detail.  
 :-)
 
 I would have to be please to you and say yes that's OK
Sorry i cannot.
 sometime ago i tried it and again i get== follow me==

  1/ with command line
 fgfscvs --airport=LFNH --aircraft=P38-L  --config=
$FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml
   
everything good   :-)
  
  2/ with .fgfsrc
--config=$FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
--nmea=socket,out,0.5,servlinux,5500,udp
--airport=LFNH
--geometry=1280x896
--enable-real-weather-fetch
--timeofday=afternoon

i get the message:
Error loading config file: Failed to open file
 at $FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml

 very bad  :-(

I am probably wrong somewhere  :-?

thanks


 
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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:21:
   2/ with .fgfsrc
 --config=$FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml  

 i get the message:
 Error loading config file: Failed to open file
  at $FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml

Shell variables aren't expanded in the config file (AFAIK). That's done
by the shell when you give it on the command line. Just write it out:

--config=/home/robin_hood/.fgfs/preferences.xml

m.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ

 
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 16:32:
  Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 15:16 +0100, Vivian Meazza a écrit :
   --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-enable=1
   --prop:/sim/rendering/clouds3d-cache-size=4096
 
  Does not work the program overload the data.
 

You need to have both - that would be reasonable since why would you set one
and not the other - a feature rather than a bug?

V.



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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:37:
 You need to have both - that would be reasonable since why would you set one
 and not the other - a feature rather than a bug?

It's at least a usability bug. The clouds code interprets cache_size=0 as
turn off rendering. So you can't have a value set with clouds off. This
should, of course, be a separate variable. It's not like we can't afford
two extra bytes on today's machines.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  17:35 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:21:
2/ with .fgfsrc
  --config=$FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
 
  i get the message:
  Error loading config file: Failed to open file
   at $FG_HOME/.fgfs/preferences.xml
 
 Shell variables aren't expanded in the config file (AFAIK). That's done
 by the shell when you give it on the command line. Just write it out:
 
 --config=/home/robin_hood/.fgfs/preferences.xml
 
 m.
 

 i did not use robin_hoodbecause of copyright

  but again the same message:

Error loading config file: Failed to open file
 at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml


with .fgfsrc

--config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
--nmea=socket,out,0.5,servlinux,5500,udp
--airport=LFNH
--geometry=1280x896
--enable-real-weather-fetch
--timeofday=afternoon


Oh... i did not say before , i had tried it... i know just a bit  about
Linux (since 1995)   beuh and before that time UNIX...   
again  beh  .

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:56:
 Error loading config file: Failed to open file
  at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml
 
 with .fgfsrc
 
 --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  

Well, then this file just doesn't exist or has wrong permissions.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  18:24 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:56:
  Error loading config file: Failed to open file
   at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml
  
  with .fgfsrc
  
  --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
 
 Well, then this file just doesn't exist or has wrong permissions.
 
 m.

  Yes
Existing, good permissions

I did also something which is verboten  i have tried under root
itself.   Whoua  the bad boy..

I'll give up.

only one question:
Without your wrapper, does the system working ?

 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  18:34 +0200, Gerard Robin a crit :
 Le lundi 13 juin 2005  18:24 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
  * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:56:
   Error loading config file: Failed to open file
at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml
   
   with .fgfsrc
   
   --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
  
  Well, then this file just doesn't exist or has wrong permissions.
  
  m.
 
   Yes
 Existing, good permissions
 
 I did also something which is verboten  i have tried under root
 itself.   Whoua  the bad boy..
 
 I'll give up.
 
 only one question:
 Without your wrapper, does the system working ?
 
  
I forgot to say, existing and good permissions, i prove it:
Command

fgfscvs --airport=LFNH --aircraft=P38-L  --config=/home/tux-le-
boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

Working positive result

So.

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 18:34:
 Le lundi 13 juin 2005 à 18:24 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a écrit :
  * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 17:56:
   Error loading config file: Failed to open file

   with .fgfsrc
   
   --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  
  
  Well, then this file just doesn't exist or has wrong permissions.

 Without your wrapper, does the system working ?

It works with my wrapper, and it works with that --config line in my
~/.fgfsrc. Try this:

  $ strace -fF -eopen fgfs 21|grep tux

and see which error code it returns. Isn't really a topic for devel ...

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  18:53 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 strace -fF -eopen fgfs 21|grep tux

The answer is: 

open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours.gz, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours.gz, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 5
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml


 


Gerard


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Ross
Gerard:
 --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

 Error loading config file: Failed to open file
  at /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

Melchior:
 Well, then this file just doesn't exist or has wrong permissions.

Gerard:
 Yes Existing, good permissions

Melchior:
 Try this:
   $ strace -fF -eopen fgfs 21|grep tux

Gerard:
 open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE)
 = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)

Ding ding ding!  We have a winner! :)

Andy

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 19:19:
 open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
 ENOENT (No such file or directory) 

Yes, and I was right: this file just doesn't exist! This is not an
fgfs message, but one of the operating system.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  19:31 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 19:19:
  open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1
  ENOENT (No such file or directory) 
 
 Yes, and I was right: this file just doesn't exist! This is not an
 fgfs message, but one of the operating system.
 
 m.


Not so Quick..

Oh do you remember i told you :



fgfscvs --airport=LFNH --aircraft=P38-L  --config=/home/tux-le-
boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

Working positive result

 
 Gerard


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Andy Ross

Gerard wrote:
 Melchior wrote:
  Yes, and I was right: this file just doesn't exist! This is not an
  fgfs message, but one of the operating system.

 Not so Quick..
 Oh do you remember i told you :

You can't really argue with a syscall result.  The file isn't there.

Maybe there are some other conditions (lack of x permissions in a
directory on the path?) that will produce an ENOENT instead of an
EPERM, so it's not impossible that the file is present.  But the
bottom line is that fgfs can't read the file.  We can't debug this for
you; you need to figure out your system configuration first.

Try, as the user running fgfs, things like:

ls -l /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml
cat /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  /dev/null
more /home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

You will eventually discover what the problem is.  Again, the syscall
result is telling: you can argue on the mailing list until you
collapse from exhaustion and you will never convince the OS that the
file is there. :)

Andy

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 19:41:
 Not so Quick..
 
 Oh do you remember i told you :

I do remember. But I don't believe you.



 fgfscvs --airport=LFNH --aircraft=P38-L  --config=/home/tux-le-
 boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml

Entertain us and post the output of 

  $ strace -fF -eopen fgfs --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml 
21|grep tux

Should be from the same machine, of course, and with the (non)file
unchanged.

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Ralf Gerlich

Hi,

Gerard Robin wrote:

open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = -1 
ENOENT (No such file or directory)

   ^^
Did you see those blanks at the end of the filename? Are these actually 
in the original report? Where could these come from?


Ralf

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ralf Gerlich -- Monday 13 June 2005 20:07:
 Gerard Robin wrote:
  open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , [...]
 ^^
 Did you see those blanks at the end of the filename? Are these actually 
 in the original report? Where could these come from?

Arghh. Good catch! Apparently, fgfs doesn't strip that. And Gerard
uses a crappy editor.


Add this to your ~/.vimrc and become a happier man:

  set listchars=tab:¦¯,trail:×,extends:»,precedes:«

or this:

  set listchars=tab:°`,trail:°,extends:,precedes:

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  20:07 +0200, Ralf Gerlich a crit :
 Hi,
 
 Gerard Robin wrote:
  open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 
  -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 ^^
 Did you see those blanks at the end of the filename? Are these actually 
 in the original report? Where could these come from?
 
 Ralf
 

 Yes I did observe it, after modification   == no change, it could have
been a good explanation.
 thanks
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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Monday 13 June 2005 20:24:
 Add this to your ~/.vimrc and become a happier man:
 
   set listchars=tab:¦¯,trail:×,extends:»,precedes:«

 or this:
 
   set listchars=tab:°`,trail:°,extends:,precedes:

followed by 

set list

of course, ...

m.  :-)

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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Ralf Gerlich -- Monday 13 June 2005 20:07:
  Gerard Robin wrote:
   open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , [...]
  ^^
  Did you see those blanks at the end of the filename? Are these actually 
  in the original report? Where could these come from?
 
 Arghh. Good catch! Apparently, fgfs doesn't strip that. And Gerard
 uses a crappy editor.

Maybe this should be changed like so:


diff -u -p -U1 -r1.67 options.cxx
--- options.cxx 25 Feb 2005 21:20:17 -  1.67
+++ options.cxx 13 Jun 2005 18:39:45 -
@@ -1537,3 +1537,3 @@ fgParseOptions (const string path) {
 // catch extraneous (DOS) line ending character
-if ( line[line.length() - 1]  32 ) {
+while ( line[line.length() - 1] = 32 ) {
 line = line.substr( 0, line.length()-1 );

or more efficient ...   :-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  19:58 +0200, Melchior FRANZ a crit :
 * Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 19:41:
  Not so Quick..
  
  Oh do you remember i told you :
 
 I do remember. But I don't believe you.
 
 
 
  fgfscvs --airport=LFNH --aircraft=P38-L  --config=/home/tux-le-
  boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml
 
 Entertain us and post the output of 
 
   $ strace -fF -eopen fgfs --config=/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml 
 21|grep tux
 
 Should be from the same machine, of course, and with the (non)file
 unchanged.
 
 m.
 
  I had a little break for dinner, now:

the answer  for Entertain:

$  strace -fF -eopen fgfscvs --config=/home/tux-le-
boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml 21|grep tux-le

open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours.gz, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours.gz, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc, O_RDONLY) = 5
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfsrc.servlinux.gours.gz, O_RDONLY) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml, O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) =
5


 
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[Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Gerard Robin -- Monday 13 June 2005 20:53:
   I had a little break for dinner, now:
 
 the answer  for Entertain:

It's not funny any more, now that we know that you fooled us by adding
two spaces to the ~/.fgfsrc config line.   ;-)

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Gerard Robin
Le lundi 13 juin 2005  20:07 +0200, Ralf Gerlich a crit :
 Hi,
 
 Gerard Robin wrote:
  open(/home/tux-le-boss/.fgfs/preferences.xml  , O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 
  -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
 ^^
 Did you see those blanks at the end of the filename? Are these actually 
 in the original report? Where could these come from?
 
 Ralf
 
 Yes now that is good, my first correction introduced probably an other
blank.

After using Emacs no Problem (ahrrg  kedit), 
i continu to learn where are the traps.

I can give to Ralf the prize, if everybody agree.

And many thanks to everybody.
 





-- 
Gerard


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: writing rules with --prop for nasal in fgfsrc

2005-06-13 Thread Ralf Gerlich

Gerard Robin schrieb:

I can give to Ralf the prize, if everybody agree.


Thanks, too much honor ;-)

Ralf

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