Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
Dave Martin wrote: It is pleasing to see that there are already over 1,700 signatories to the support wiki. When I signed late last night there were only 31. Well, it appears the Polish second minister made our day - our German minister cowardly decided not to attend the meeting :-(( Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
Dave Martin wrote: AFAIK, Your German minister would have been under strict instructions now to oppose the bill. and she was 'on duty' to attend the meeting. This is what I call coward. Its a shame that the British representatives that I helped to elect can't learn to stand by their party's policies :-( Same here - at least partially, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
Dave Martin wrote: Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press through a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a meeting of the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things. It's good to mention this topic - fortunately we still have yet another chance when the directive has to pass the European parliament in the second reading, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
I am led to understand that the EU Parliament can only vote down elements of the proposal at the second hearing if this is allowed at the Fisheries commission meeting - is this correct. It is pleasing to see that there are already over 1,700 signatories to the support wiki. When I signed late last night there were only 31. On Monday 20 Dec 2004 15:18, Martin Spott wrote: Dave Martin wrote: Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press through a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a meeting of the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things. It's good to mention this topic - fortunately we still have yet another chance when the directive has to pass the European parliament in the second reading, Martin. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
Dave Martin wrote: I am led to understand that the EU Parliament can only vote down elements of the proposal at the second hearing if this is allowed at the Fisheries commission meeting - is this correct. Hmmm, I wouldn't bet on this but my understanding is that parliament can vote against the directive as a whole, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.
Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press through a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a meeting of the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things. Anyway - I just received from the FFII: Dear FFII supporter [1], Please help us to stop EU Agriculture Ministers from taking a dreadful step towards software patents. This Tuesday the EU Ministers of Agriculture will be asked to vote through the Council's software patents directive text as an agenda A-item, without discussion, even though there no longer exists a qualified majority of countries in favour of it. [2] The Council text imposes unlimited patentability, with several layers of defences against any attempt at limitation. If this text text is adopted, it will be difficult to achieve a reasonable directive at a later stage of the co-decision procedure. Please help to make your Minister of Agriculture aware of the very real choice he/she has to make in the Agriculture Council on Tuesday. Please place the Please place the Open Letter http://demo.ffii.org/letter.html or the Banner http://demo.ffii.org/banner.html on your most important web page(s). Add your support to the wiki page http://demo.ffii.org/support.php This also points to pages where you may share the contact addresses of your ministry and letters already faxed to ministers of agriculture and environment. If enough supporters participate, then the story will reach media and the news will spread. Your agricultural minister then can be more easily convinced that his/her resistance is worth the effort. With kind regards, -- Gérald Sédrati-Dinet, Jonas Maebe, Felix Klee, James Heald, Peter Gerwinski, Holger Blasum, Hartmut Pilch [1] Login as dmartind in http://aktiv.ffii.org/ [2] http://kwiki.ffii.org/ConsRevers04En If you feel that Software Patents in Europe are a bad thing (and / or we are being led up the garden path by the EU council) you can at least jot your name on the Wiki above to show support. Thanks (and sorry if it seems a bit spammy but I'm furious about this). ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. How many candles do we have to set up ? ;-) Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Martin Spott wrote: Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's my birthday. How many candles do we have to set up ? ;-) Enough to cover all of august. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:03:14 +0200, Fabien ILLIDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Sorry for be a bit oftopic. The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st september. As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest. If you feel concern, and want to help us, please sign the online petition at http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (it's *very* quick) If you want some information before sign the petition, have a look on : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/FightingSWPatents http://brevets-logiciels.info/ There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug Thanks for you attention and your time, Fabien ..ok, I think I fell off the wagon here, I agree stealing lollipops from 3 year old toddlers, Presidencies from Yanks and oil from Arabs and Norsemen is bad, but does that make Microsoft EUropean??? ;-) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able to make either party. :-( (j/k of course!) Curt. -- Curtis Olson HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin Citiescurt 'at' me.umn.edu curt 'at' flightgear.org Minnesota http://www.menet.umn.edu/~curt http://www.flightgear.org ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. I'll do even more noize for your birthday ! Have an happy one ! Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able to make either party. :-( Don't patent FlightGear ! Patent A software that simulate the environment and use of a mechanical thing instead ! (j/k of course!) Pfffiou ! I'll sleep beter this night :o) Bye, Fabien -- Les brevets de logiciels : une menace extrêmement grave pèse sur l'industrie européenne du logiciel ! voici un wiki dédié à ce problème : http://brevets-logiciels.info ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Fabien ILLIDE wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Erik Hofman writes: Fabien ILLIDE wrote: There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug That's my birthday. I'll do even more noize for your birthday ! Have an happy one ! Thanks. Maybe this event will help you to give me a present that day ... Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe
Hi, Sorry for be a bit oftopic. The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st september. As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest. If you feel concern, and want to help us, please sign the online petition at http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (it's *very* quick) If you want some information before sign the petition, have a look on : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/FightingSWPatents http://brevets-logiciels.info/ There will be a strike this 27th : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug Thanks for you attention and your time, Fabien -- Les brevets de logiciels : une menace extrêmement grave pèse sur l'industrie européenne du logiciel ! voici un wiki dédié à ce problème : http://brevets-logiciels.info ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel