Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-22 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote:

 It is pleasing to see that there are already over 1,700 signatories to the 
 support wiki. When I signed late last night there were only 31.

Well, it appears the Polish second minister made our day - our German
minister cowardly decided not to attend the meeting  :-((

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-22 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote:

 AFAIK, Your German minister would have been under strict instructions now to 
 oppose the bill.

 and she was 'on duty' to attend the meeting. This is what I call
coward.

 Its a shame that the British representatives that I helped to elect can't 
 learn to stand by their party's policies :-(

Same here - at least partially,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote:
 Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press through 
 a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a meeting of 
 the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things.

It's good to mention this topic - fortunately we still have yet another
chance when the directive has to pass the European parliament in the
second reading,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-20 Thread Dave Martin
I am led to understand that the EU Parliament can only vote down elements of 
the proposal at the second hearing if this is allowed at the Fisheries 
commission meeting - is this correct.

It is pleasing to see that there are already over 1,700 signatories to the 
support wiki. When I signed late last night there were only 31.

On Monday 20 Dec 2004 15:18, Martin Spott wrote:
 Dave Martin wrote:
  Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press
  through a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a
  meeting of the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things.

 It's good to mention this topic - fortunately we still have yet another
 chance when the directive has to pass the European parliament in the
 second reading,

 Martin.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
Dave Martin wrote:
 I am led to understand that the EU Parliament can only vote down elements of 
 the proposal at the second hearing if this is allowed at the Fisheries 
 commission meeting - is this correct.

Hmmm, I wouldn't bet on this but my understanding is that parliament
can vote against the directive as a whole,

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[Flightgear-devel] Software Patents.

2004-12-19 Thread Dave Martin
Many of you are probably aware that the EU Council is trying to press through 
a draconian directive on EU software patents on Tuesday during a meeting of 
the Agriculture and Fisheries commision of all things.

Anyway - I just received from the FFII:

 Dear FFII supporter [1],

  Please help us to stop EU Agriculture Ministers from
  taking a dreadful step towards software patents.

  This Tuesday the EU Ministers of Agriculture will
  be asked to vote through the Council's software patents
  directive text as an agenda A-item, without discussion,
  even though there no longer exists a qualified majority
  of countries in favour of it. [2]

  The Council text imposes unlimited patentability,
  with several layers of defences against any
  attempt at limitation. If this text text is adopted,
  it will be difficult to achieve a reasonable directive
  at a later stage of the co-decision procedure.

  Please help to make your Minister of Agriculture aware of the
  very real choice he/she has to make in the Agriculture Council
  on Tuesday.  Please place the

  Please place the

   Open Letter
   http://demo.ffii.org/letter.html

  or the

   Banner
   http://demo.ffii.org/banner.html

  on your most important web page(s).

  Add your support to the wiki page

 http://demo.ffii.org/support.php

  This also points to pages where you may share the contact
  addresses of your ministry and letters already faxed to
  ministers of agriculture and environment.

  If enough supporters participate, then the story will reach
  media and the news will spread. Your agricultural minister then can
  be more easily convinced that his/her resistance is worth
  the effort.

  With kind regards,

  --
  Gérald Sédrati-Dinet, Jonas Maebe, Felix Klee, James Heald,
  Peter Gerwinski, Holger Blasum, Hartmut Pilch

  [1] Login as dmartind in http://aktiv.ffii.org/
  [2] http://kwiki.ffii.org/ConsRevers04En

If you feel that Software Patents in Europe are a bad thing (and / or we are 
being led up the garden path by the EU council) you can at least jot your 
name on the Wiki above to show support.

Thanks (and sorry if it seems a bit spammy but I'm furious about this).

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Fabien ILLIDE wrote:

 There will be a strike this 27th :
 http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug

 That's my birthday.

How many candles do we have to set up ?  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote:
Erik Hofman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

That's my birthday.
How many candles do we have to set up ?  ;-)
Enough to cover all of august.

Erik



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-26 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:03:14 +0200, 
Fabien ILLIDE [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,
 
 Sorry for be a bit oftopic.
 
 The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st
 september.
 
 As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest.
 
 If you feel concern, and want to help us, please sign the online
 petition at http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (it's *very* quick)
 
 If you want some information before sign the petition, have a look on
 : http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/FightingSWPatents
 http://brevets-logiciels.info/
 
 There will be a strike this 27th :
 http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug
 
 Thanks for you attention and your time,
 Fabien

..ok, I think I fell off the wagon here, I agree stealing lollipops 
from 3 year old toddlers, Presidencies from Yanks and oil from Arabs 
and Norsemen is bad, but does that make Microsoft EUropean???  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Fabien ILLIDE wrote:

There will be a strike this 27th :
http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug
That's my birthday.

Erik

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Erik Hofman writes:
 Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
 
  There will be a strike this 27th :
  http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug
 
 That's my birthday.

Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able
to make either party. :-(

(j/k of course!)

Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Curtis L. Olson wrote:
Erik Hofman writes:

Fabien ILLIDE wrote:


There will be a strike this 27th :
http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug
That's my birthday.
I'll do even more noize for your birthday !
Have an happy one !
Shoot, I'll be busy patenting FlightGear that day so I won't be able
to make either party. :-(
Don't patent FlightGear !
Patent A software that simulate the environment and use of a mechanical 
thing instead !

(j/k of course!)
Pfffiou ! I'll sleep beter this night :o)

Bye,
Fabien
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Fabien ILLIDE wrote:
Curtis L. Olson wrote:

Erik Hofman writes:

Fabien ILLIDE wrote:


There will be a strike this 27th :
http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug


That's my birthday.


I'll do even more noize for your birthday !
Have an happy one !
Thanks.
Maybe this event will help you to give me a present that day ...
Erik

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[Flightgear-devel] Software patents in Europe

2003-08-25 Thread Fabien ILLIDE
Hi,

Sorry for be a bit oftopic.

The European Parlement will vote on software patents this 1st september.

As FlightGear is a Libre Software, I think it's NOT in our interest.

If you feel concern, and want to help us, please sign the online petition 
at http://petition.eurolinux.org/ (it's *very* quick)

If you want some information before sign the petition, have a look on :
http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/FightingSWPatents
http://brevets-logiciels.info/
There will be a strike this 27th :
http://wiki.ael.be/index.php/BigDemo27aug
Thanks for you attention and your time,
Fabien
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l'industrie européenne du logiciel !
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