Re: [Flightgear-devel] render-to-texture XML animation

2006-02-15 Thread Erik Hofman

Martin Spott wrote:

Tiago Gusmão wrote:

Anyway, my biggest problem right now is that it's eating 10fps in my 
GF4MX without actually drawing anything.
Any tips for increasing performance in render-to-texture? If not, is 
this performance unacceptable?


I think you are actually facing the most obvious problem of the whole
idea here: By rendering into a texture you put load on the CPU for
doing a job that could be much better done by appropriate OpenGL
hardware. You could try to circumvent this problem by shifting the
render-to-texture job onto the graphics board, but such a solution
would come out to be _very_ hardware-specific, i.e.totally
non-portable.


Well, we now have a RenderTexture class in SimGear which should take the 
burden from the developer for making it portable.
This class however doesn't support MacOS-X (yet, I contacted someone who 
 has expressed the desire to do so) and the class may fall back to 
software emulation when no hardware rendering is available.


However, most modern and less modern hardware should be able to do it in 
hardware.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] render-to-texture XML animation

2006-02-15 Thread Erik Hofman

Frederic Bouvier wrote:

But people using this feature must optimize their drawing just like we did by
using display lists. There are numerous way to get a result. Among them, some
are faster than others.


True, RenderTexture is no magic. It is necessary to optimize it just 
like it was drawn to the screen. But since it is drawn to a quad of just 
256 x 256 pixels at maximum it will always be faster than rendering the 
same content to the screen.


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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction

2006-02-15 Thread dene maxwell
That could fast become one of my fav twin engined prop AC...on looks alone!! 
;-)
Looking forward to flying it. Will it have a version compatible with 
FGv098a?

=Dene



From: Torsten Dreyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
To: flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 19:05:00 +0100

Hi,

some of you might remember: I'm working on a Seneca-Model. This is just to
show you, that I am still alive.

The 3D model:
outside view
http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-012.jpg

another outside view
http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-011.jpg

panel
http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-010.jpg
see the pedal's texture? everything here is operative, except the
windshield-heater ;-)

http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-013.jpg
closeup of the annunciator panel and the gear-transit warning light.

http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-014.jpg
closeup of the switch-panel

http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-015.jpg
between front-seats: the console for elevator and rudder-trim, fuel 
selectors

and flap lever.

Work to do and under construction:
- 3d model for King HSI
- 3d piper-style dual 50manifold pressure
- 3d piper-style RPM
- 3d engine-gauges (fuel/oil,CHT,EGT...)
- 3d Autopilot Altimatic IIIc
- textures for the switch-panel

The FDM
I use JSBSim with v2.0 config files. The aerodynamics sections were 
generated
using DATCOM+. The results are impressive - the performance values are 
close

to the original airplane.

Work to do and under construction:
- fine tune the aerodynamics
- implement drag coefficients for open cowl-flaps and landing gear
- supercharge the engines
- get a better propeller, the propC10v I use from the c310 does not seem to
produce enough thrust.

Still a lot to do before this is usable - I keep you informed...

Greetings, Torsten



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction

2006-02-15 Thread Torsten Dreyer
 Looking forward to flying it. Will it have a version compatible with
 FGv098a?
Currently only the CVS version is supporting the JSBSim 2.0 config file 
format. So the config file has to be backported to the old file format. This 
is possible, but I will use my time to get it in the air first. 
Sorry...

Torsten


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction

2006-02-15 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Wednesday 15 February 2006 20:05, Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,

 some of you might remember: I'm working on a Seneca-Model. This is just to
 show you, that I am still alive.

 The 3D model:
 outside view
 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-012.jpg

 another outside view
 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-011.jpg

 panel
 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-010.jpg
 see the pedal's texture? everything here is operative, except the
 windshield-heater ;-)

 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-013.jpg
 closeup of the annunciator panel and the gear-transit warning light.

 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-014.jpg
 closeup of the switch-panel

 http://www.t3r.de/fg/seneca/fgfs-screen-015.jpg
 between front-seats: the console for elevator and rudder-trim, fuel
 selectors and flap lever.

 Work to do and under construction:
 - 3d model for King HSI
 - 3d piper-style dual 50manifold pressure
 - 3d piper-style RPM
 - 3d engine-gauges (fuel/oil,CHT,EGT...)
 - 3d Autopilot Altimatic IIIc
 - textures for the switch-panel

 The FDM
 I use JSBSim with v2.0 config files. The aerodynamics sections were
 generated using DATCOM+. The results are impressive - the performance
 values are close to the original airplane.

 Work to do and under construction:
 - fine tune the aerodynamics
 - implement drag coefficients for open cowl-flaps and landing gear
 - supercharge the engines
 - get a better propeller, the propC10v I use from the c310 does not seem to
 produce enough thrust.

 Still a lot to do before this is usable - I keep you informed...

 Greetings, Torsten

Looking good!
BTW : Anti-aliasing would help a lot when you're making screenshots - you 
don't need to run with it on all the time if your card can't handle it but 
for screen grabs frame rates aren't important and it'll make those jagged 
edges look a lot better.

Paul


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction

2006-02-15 Thread Martin Spott
Torsten Dreyer wrote:

 some of you might remember: I'm working on a Seneca-Model. This is just to 
 show you, that I am still alive.

Wow ! As this seems to become one of the most realistic aircraft in
FlightGear the question arises if FlightGear/JSBsim already models carb
icing and heating !?

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Fwd: LFS And FG news story at Scale]

2006-02-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson

John Wojnaroski wrote:


   check out www.techweb.com http://www.techweb.com/ today, Feb.
   13, and their  home page News Show - jump to Linux Flight Plan
   for a nice news clip on our SCALE exhibit and the expo.



A quick update for those of you who didn't get there in time to see the 
link.  The story can still be found here:


   
http://www.thenewsshow.tv/daily/v3.jhtml?episode=20060213autoplay=true


Under the video window you should see a Linux Flight Plan link.

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[Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Justin Smithies
Hi Guys im having trouble getting FG to output on a socket using Linux.
I know my network is fine as i can telnet to FG and read values etc.
but i cant make it output data in native or opengc format.
I've tried issuing my i.p my other pc's i.p and localhost etc.

Here is my last attempt that failed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,80,tcp
  Model Author:  Unknown
  Creation Date: 2002-01-01
  Version:   $Id: c172p.xml,v 1.15 2006-01-12 15:07:14 ehofman Exp $
  Description:   Cessna C-172
Error: connect() failed in make_client_socket()
SG_IO_OUT socket creation failed
Error opening channel communication layer.
I/O Channel config failed.
Segmentation fault

Any ideas ???

I can even use the http sever option and its fine.
i can output nmea to the serial port i just cant use the network for data 
output.
Oh yes i am using the latest cvs and i have the 2.6.15 kernel.

Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flaps/Gear/Load/Speed limits patch

2006-02-15 Thread Buchanan, Stuart

--- Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 * Buchanan, Stuart -- Wednesday 15 February 2006 00:01:
  http://www.nanjika.co.uk/flightgear/limits2.tar.gz.
  
  It consists of
  - An improved limits.nas file using property listeners and the new
 Nasal
 
 patch doesn't apply it cleanly. The reject file is quite big.
 

OK, try again on the same link. I ran another cvs update before doing the
diff. I've also included the new limits.nas file, if that is easier.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread John Wojnaroski

That will fail every time,

try something like

--opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,# above 5000,udp

tcp is NOT supported for opengc, it is sent and forget udp protocol

JW

Justin Smithies wrote:


Hi Guys im having trouble getting FG to output on a socket using Linux.
I know my network is fine as i can telnet to FG and read values etc.
but i cant make it output data in native or opengc format.
I've tried issuing my i.p my other pc's i.p and localhost etc.

Here is my last attempt that failed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,80,tcp
 Model Author:  Unknown
 Creation Date: 2002-01-01
 Version:   $Id: c172p.xml,v 1.15 2006-01-12 15:07:14 ehofman Exp $
 Description:   Cessna C-172
Error: connect() failed in make_client_socket()
SG_IO_OUT socket creation failed
Error opening channel communication layer.
I/O Channel config failed.
Segmentation fault

Any ideas ???

I can even use the http sever option and its fine.
i can output nmea to the serial port i just cant use the network for data 
output.

Oh yes i am using the latest cvs and i have the 2.6.15 kernel.

Cheers
Justin Smithies


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread John Wojnaroski
In using the loopback address you may also see an error msg since there 
is  no hardware in the loop.
Try some other dummy private address other than the loopback 
192.xx.xxx.xxx, 10.10.10.; 172.29.0.xxx, etc


JW

Justin Smithies wrote:


Hi Guys im having trouble getting FG to output on a socket using Linux.
I know my network is fine das i can telnet to FG and read values etc.
but i cant make it output data in native or opengc format.
I've tried issuing my i.p my other pc's i.p and localhost etc.

Here is my last attempt that failed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,80,tcp
 Model Author:  Unknown
 Creation Date: 2002-01-01
 Version:   $Id: c172p.xml,v 1.15 2006-01-12 15:07:14 ehofman Exp $
 Description:   Cessna C-172
Error: connect() failed in make_client_socket()
SG_IO_OUT socket creation failed
Error opening channel communication layer.
I/O Channel config failed.
Segmentation fault

Any ideas ???

I can even use the http sever option and its fine.
i can output nmea to the serial port i just cant use the network for data 
output.

Oh yes i am using the latest cvs and i have the 2.6.15 kernel.

Cheers
Justin Smithies


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Justin Smithies
Ah sorted im going to have to run the glass cockpit on an other pc i cant use 
my own i.p.

Cheers John


On Wednesday 15 February 2006 21:19, John Wojnaroski wrote:
 In using the loopback address you may also see an error msg since there
 is  no hardware in the loop.
 Try some other dummy private address other than the loopback
 192.xx.xxx.xxx, 10.10.10.; 172.29.0.xxx, etc

 JW

 Justin Smithies wrote:
 Hi Guys im having trouble getting FG to output on a socket using Linux.
 I know my network is fine das i can telnet to FG and read values etc.
 but i cant make it output data in native or opengc format.
 I've tried issuing my i.p my other pc's i.p and localhost etc.
 
 Here is my last attempt that failed
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,80,tcp
   Model Author:  Unknown
   Creation Date: 2002-01-01
   Version:   $Id: c172p.xml,v 1.15 2006-01-12 15:07:14 ehofman Exp $
   Description:   Cessna C-172
 Error: connect() failed in make_client_socket()
 SG_IO_OUT socket creation failed
 Error opening channel communication layer.
 I/O Channel config failed.
 Segmentation fault
 
 Any ideas ???
 
 I can even use the http sever option and its fine.
 i can output nmea to the serial port i just cant use the network for data
 output.
 Oh yes i am using the latest cvs and i have the 2.6.15 kernel.
 
 Cheers
 Justin Smithies
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Justin Smithies wrote:

Ah sorted im going to have to run the glass cockpit on an other pc i cant use 
my own i.p.
 



There's no reason you can't have FlightGear send udp packets to another 
application on the same machine.  You may or may not want to do that, 
but it certainly is possible.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Justin Smithies
How Curtis as im trying to run Johns Glass cockpit software demo on the same 
machine and i cant get FG to send data to it.

Ive set his software to use port 6000 and my i.p. 192.168.1.3 it runs up and 
appears to be awaiting data.

Then i run FG with

fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,192.168.1.3,6000,udp

And all i get is Error writing data.

But if i issue FG with a dummy i.p like 192.168.1.6 no errors, so that just 
confuses me as you said the error was because it got no reply from the 
running service.
There is nothing on 192.168.1.6 .

Anymore ideas ?

Justin Smithies


On Wednesday 15 February 2006 21:44, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 Justin Smithies wrote:
 Ah sorted im going to have to run the glass cockpit on an other pc i cant
  use my own i.p.

 There's no reason you can't have FlightGear send udp packets to another
 application on the same machine.  You may or may not want to do that,
 but it certainly is possible.

 Curt.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Justin Smithies wrote:

How Curtis as im trying to run Johns Glass cockpit software demo on the same 
machine and i cant get FG to send data to it.


Ive set his software to use port 6000 and my i.p. 192.168.1.3 it runs up and 
appears to be awaiting data.


Then i run FG with

fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,192.168.1.3,6000,udp

And all i get is Error writing data.

But if i issue FG with a dummy i.p like 192.168.1.6 no errors, so that just 
confuses me as you said the error was because it got no reply from the 
running service.

There is nothing on 192.168.1.6 .

Anymore ideas ?
 



I think you lost me on the specific details here, but on many occasions 
I have sent FlightGear data output to another application on the same 
machine (and visa versa.)  There may be other reasons why it won't work 
with the open glass cockpit, but there's nothing inherent to Flightgear 
that would prevent you from sending/receiving network output to/from the 
same machine (i.e. localhost.)


Regards,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread John Wojnaroski

Just to be sure

The machine running the demo software is at 192.168.1.3. What is the 
address of the FG machine?


The startup script for the demo lets you set the socket address where 
you want to receive data from FG and the IP and socket address where you 
want to sent control data back to FG.


On the FG side, you need to set (as a minimum) the  address and socket 
of the machine running the demo


What address/network are you using to handle the other network services? 
If different than the 192.168.1.0 network you will have to use a second 
card and set up your routing tables accordingly.


At scale4x we had one card configured for connecting to the Internet at 
eth0 and a second card at eth1 configured to communicate with the sim.


For the moment, let's assume one card behind a gateway/firewall that 
provides NAT for accessing the Internet and a private LAN at 192.168.1.0.


In flightgear:  --opengc=socket,30,192.168.1.3,6000,udp
  --native-ctrl=socket,30,IP address of demo 
machine,receiving socket,udp


In the demo startup script  --network=6000,FG socket that receives ctrl 
data,IP address of FG machine


Regards
John W




Justin Smithies wrote:

How Curtis as im trying to run Johns Glass cockpit software demo on the same 
machine and i cant get FG to send data to it.


Ive set his software to use port 6000 and my i.p. 192.168.1.3 it runs up and 
appears to be awaiting data.


Then i run FG with

fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,192.168.1.3,6000,udp

And all i get is Error writing data.

But if i issue FG with a dummy i.p like 192.168.1.6 no errors, so that just 
confuses me as you said the error was because it got no reply from the 
running service.

There is nothing on 192.168.1.6 .

Anymore ideas ?

Justin Smithies


On Wednesday 15 February 2006 21:44, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 


Justin Smithies wrote:
   


Ah sorted im going to have to run the glass cockpit on an other pc i cant
use my own i.p.
 


There's no reason you can't have FlightGear send udp packets to another
application on the same machine.  You may or may not want to do that,
but it certainly is possible.

Curt.
   




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[Flightgear-devel] 2d panel question

2006-02-15 Thread Curtis L. Olson

I have a 2d panel question.

I want to make an annunciator light for a 2d panel.  But, I don't want 
it to have any of the default panel illumination at night.  I want it to 
be dark when the light is off, and lit when the light is on.  But at 
night, the default panel illumination makes it difficult to see if the 
light is on or off.  Is there a way to do accomplish this with the 2d 
panels?


Thanks,

Curt.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Seneca model is still under construction

2006-02-15 Thread Jon S. Berndt
 How does the flight model feel when you kill an engine?  I remember a
 couple of years ago that we weren't getting nearly enough drag from a
 windmilling propeller, either in JSBSim or in YASim, but I don't know
 how the code is now.

 David

It should be much better in JSBSim, now. Thanks to code contributions from
Jiri Javurek for the L410 model (still to be completely ported to
FlightGear), we have a much more capable propeller model and a turboprop
engine model, as well.

Some of the propeller performance depends, of course, on how the config file
for that prop is set up. The data that drives the model has to cover the
entire range of advance ratio expected to be seen in operation.

Jon



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[Flightgear-devel] Mouse patch

2006-02-15 Thread David Megginson
I've just checked in a patch to change the mouse behaviour in modes
where the 'constrained' property is true (e.g. control mode and view
mode).  Previously, the 'constrained' property actually caused the
mouse to wrap around to the other side of the screen when it hit an
edge, causing huge opposite-direction changes in the control and view
positions.  I may be the only one here who ever tries to fly a plane
using the mouse, but I've lost control once too often this way (and
it's also unpleasant having the view messed up).

The patch constrains the mouse to stay between 25% and 75% on the X
and Y axes in the special mouse modes (no effect on pointer mode);
when it hits a limit, it simply jumps back to the centre.  Now, if you
move the mouse continuously to the left in view mode, for example, the
view will keep panning to the left, rather than suddenly jumping
somewhere unexpected.  It still doesn't seem to be working perfectly,
but it's better than before.

Let me know if anyone objects.  When I first did this a few years ago,
Norman Vine was adamant that it was the wrong behaviour, for reasons
that I no longer remember.


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] socket output problems

2006-02-15 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:35:09 -0600, Curtis wrote in message 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Justin Smithies wrote:
 
  John i tried that but did it again anyway with 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# fgfs --opengc=socket,out,30,127.0.0.1,6000,udp

..6000 'n up is often used by X Window System networking.

 You will see error writing data until you start some process that 
 reads data in from that port.  If there's nothing waiting on the port
 to  receive the data, the write will fail.  This is a non-fatal error,
 just  telling you that it couldn't find anything on the receiving end.
 
 Curt.
 


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