[Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development
Hi, You might find this an amusing take on someone else's Flight Sim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcW3hbnR2EI Made me laugh anyway, Vivian - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
Erik Hofman wrote: flying.toaster wrote: I've started similar work on the F-18 http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/flightgear/f18nasa.png Can you confirm if there is any such project underway ? I'm not aware of anyone working on that. It would be great to have an F-15 3d model available. I agree. Mathias Froehlich has an excellent model of F-18A/B which includes almost (in my eyes) perfect animation of the moving parts of the gear and everything that's required for carrier operation, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development
Hi, You might find this an amusing take on someone else's Flight Sim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcW3hbnR2EI Made me laugh anyway, Vivian I'm surprised that a group of people went to this much trouble to produce a commercial to say something about that other flight sim. Was this made using scenes from an actual film and overdubbed audio/subtitles? I got a laugh out of it, too. Jon - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development
Hi, Jon S. Berndt wrote: I'm surprised that a group of people went to this much trouble to produce a commercial to say something about that other flight sim. Was this made using scenes from an actual film and overdubbed audio/subtitles? I got a laugh out of it, too. It's from the German film Der Untergang (The Downfall) describing the last 12 days in Hitler's Führerbunker before the end of WWII. Cheers, Ralf - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
Is there anywhere a list of work in progress just to avoid duplicates ? Note that it's no big issue for the Hornet as I made it for another sim anyway ;) And to answer the question, I want to release the models with a license that would prevent any commercial or military use. I think Creative Commons can do that but if you know anything else better ... Message du 29/09/06 à 11h46 De : Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Copie à : Objet : Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15 Erik Hofman wrote: flying.toaster wrote: I've started similar work on the F-18 http://sfp1.site.voila.fr/flightgear/f18nasa.png Can you confirm if there is any such project underway ? I'm not aware of anyone working on that. It would be great to have an F-15 3d model available. I agree. Mathias Froehlich has an excellent model of F-18A/B which includes almost (in my eyes) perfect animation of the moving parts of the gear and everything that's required for carrier operation, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
--- flying.toaster wrote: Is there anywhere a list of work in progress just to avoid duplicates ? Note that it's no big issue for the Hornet as I made it for another sim anyway ;) IIRC there's a list on the wiki of the work required for each aircraft. You could make a note there. And to answer the question, I want to release the models with a license that would prevent any commercial or military use. I think Creative Commons can do that but if you know anything else better ... I don't think it can go into CVS unless it is GPL. If it isn't in CVS, integration with the CVS FDMs etc. will be a pain. I think it would be a great shame for such lovely looking models not to be part of the base package, so I implore you to GPL them. Regards, -Stuart ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
flying.toaster wrote: Is there anywhere a list of work in progress just to avoid duplicates? Even if there were, the best advice would be to ignore it. :) This is a volunteer project done (mostly) for the enjoyment of the developers, and as such many of the subprojects that are announced here end up abandoned or stillborn. Just do your best, try not to blatantly step on anyone's toes, let people know what you are doing, and don't worry too much about duplicated work. Think of it as a darwinian development model: the fittest work survives. I want to release the models with a license that would prevent any commercial or military use. I think Creative Commons can do that but if you know anything else better ... Note that this will preclude shipping it with FlightGear, which is released under the GNU GPL. See the COPYING file in your data directory to see if those terms are acceptable to you. If not, you will have to distribute the files yourself, unfortunately. FWIW, the Creative Commons license (like the GPL) does not prohibit any particular users of the work either. It only covers the restrictions that the recipient can place upon further distribution. Andy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
Don't get me wrong, I don't want to put a lot of restrictions to the right to distribute and modify. In that sense GPL or OpenSource type of licence suit me. I just do not want people to make money out of my work (except maybe for the *cost* of the media used to distribute), when I am not asking for any money. Commercial software is OK for me, but if I want to go down that path, I'll set up my own company. Also I do not want this work, that I do for entertainment, to be used for Real Life (TM) military purposes. The latter is a moral position. If that means I'll have to make a separate package, so be it. But I am still willing to distribute for the community to enjoy AND tweak at their will as long as those two choices are respected. Message du 29/09/06 à 19h41 De : Buchanan, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] A : [EMAIL PROTECTED], FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Copie à : Objet : Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15 --- flying.toaster wrote: Is there anywhere a list of work in progress just to avoid duplicates ? Note that it's no big issue for the Hornet as I made it for another sim anyway ;) IIRC there's a list on the wiki of the work required for each aircraft. You could make a note there. And to answer the question, I want to release the models with a license that would prevent any commercial or military use. I think Creative Commons can do that but if you know anything else better ... I don't think it can go into CVS unless it is GPL. If it isn't in CVS, integration with the CVS FDMs etc. will be a pain. I think it would be a great shame for such lovely looking models not to be part of the base package, so I implore you to GPL them. Regards, -Stuart ___ Inbox full of spam? Get leading spam protection and 1GB storage with All New Yahoo! Mail. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] up-to-date-version for windows?
Dear Group! Few weeks ago I started again using FlightGear. My first excitement is done now, still I want to stay with the community as player but also as developer (in my small terms, e.g. blendermodels). The main problem I face is, that although there are constantly done changes, bug-fixes and add-ons, I am bound to windows on my powerful computer and want/have to use it for FlightGear. My question is: Does anybody know/has done/has an idea of using CVS under Microsoft(tm) Win(tm)do(w)(tm) XP(tm)? Thx in advance, Yours Carsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
BTW here is a list of the 3D models I have in the works or finished Exterior | Interior -- Su-26M 90%| 90% F14100% no textures | 0% F15100% no textures | 0% F18100% some textures | 50% SR71 25%| 0% X15A2 25%| 0% Tu-144 25%| 0% A340-5 40%| 0% Pe-2 40%| 0% MirF1 100% no textures | 0% MiG21F 100% no textures | 0% SpitMk9 10% | 0% If anybody has started work on those ones (I know there are FDMs for the X-15 and F-15) I would be glad to join. Contribution is also welcome :o) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] up-to-date-version for windows?
Hi, compiled windows executables of the actual cvs you can find on ftp://ftp.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Win32/ You can compile flightgear e.g. with msvc-express, there is a link at http://wiki.flightgear.org/ to a step by step instruction by olaf flebbe: http://www.oflebbe.de/oflebbe/FlightGear/index.html Maik Carsten Vogel schrieb: Dear Group! Few weeks ago I started again using FlightGear. My first excitement is done now, still I want to stay with the community as player but also as developer (in my small terms, e.g. blendermodels). The main problem I face is, that although there are constantly done changes, bug-fixes and add-ons, I am bound to windows on my powerful computer and want/have to use it for FlightGear. My question is: Does anybody know/has done/has an idea of using CVS under Microsoft(tm) Win(tm)do(w)(tm) XP(tm)? Thx in advance, Yours Carsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
Hi, oh, no helicopter? ;-) Maik flying.toaster schrieb: BTW here is a list of the 3D models I have in the works or finished Exterior | Interior -- Su-26M 90%| 90% F14100% no textures | 0% F15100% no textures | 0% F18100% some textures | 50% SR71 25%| 0% X15A2 25%| 0% Tu-144 25%| 0% A340-5 40%| 0% Pe-2 40%| 0% MirF1 100% no textures | 0% MiG21F 100% no textures | 0% SpitMk9 10% | 0% If anybody has started work on those ones (I know there are FDMs for the X-15 and F-15) I would be glad to join. Contribution is also welcome :o) - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] up-to-date-version for windows?
Hi, never mind! HHS --- Carsten Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Heiko Schulz schrieb: Hi, Well- why don't you have a look at the german forum? Heliflyer did a great job to explain us how to compile under Windows! Greetings HHS --- Carsten Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thx. I was absend during some exercises and courses I gave. Did not notice to check that. Thx for information... yeah should have consulted the forum in first place - my fault. Carsten - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] up-to-date-version for windows?
Heiko Schulz schrieb: Hi, Well- why don't you have a look at the german forum? Heliflyer did a great job to explain us how to compile under Windows! Greetings HHS --- Carsten Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Thank you for the flowers I do ***NOT*** earn - and sorry that I have to disappoint you :-/ I only created a step-for-step tutorial (PDF, many pictures) how to set up an actual FlightGear system on Windows using the precompiled FG (exe) versions made by Frederic Bouvier (thank you very much, Fred!) and combining them with the actual (same time stamp) FlightGear data with the WinCVS program. After I have learned to fly without wings I will make this other tutorial :-) Regards Georg HeliFlyer EDDW - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:44, flying.toaster wrote: Don't get me wrong, I don't want to put a lot of restrictions to the right to distribute and modify. In that sense GPL or OpenSource type of licence suit me. I just do not want people to make money out of my work (except maybe for the *cost* of the media used to distribute), when I am not asking for any money. Commercial software is OK for me, but if I want to go down that path, I'll set up my own company. Well, you cannot prevent others from making money out of your work if you licensed your work under GPL. What you can do though, is make life extremely difficult for them. This is one of the reasons why my models are in pieces. You can bring this a step further by using multiple modelling formats. Essentially, this means your models would only work with FlightGear. Also I do not want this work, that I do for entertainment, to be used for Real Life (TM) military purposes. The latter is a moral position. I simply avoid this moral position by not creating any military model. :) If that means I'll have to make a separate package, so be it. But I am still willing to distribute for the community to enjoy AND tweak at their will as long as those two choices are respected. Ampere - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3D model for the F-15
On Friday 29 September 2006 14:59, flying.toaster wrote: BTW here is a list of the 3D models I have in the works or finished Exterior | Interior -- A340-5 40%| 0% If anybody has started work on those ones (I know there are FDMs for the X-15 and F-15) I would be glad to join. Contribution is also welcome :o) I would contribute, I guess. :D http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-005.png Here are what I am working on: A330-200, A330-300, A340-200, A340-300, A340-500, A340-600 ...but you knew this already. Ampere - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Sim Development
On Friday 29 September 2006 06:28, Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi, Jon S. Berndt wrote: I'm surprised that a group of people went to this much trouble to produce a commercial to say something about that other flight sim. Was this made using scenes from an actual film and overdubbed audio/subtitles? I got a laugh out of it, too. It's from the German film Der Untergang (The Downfall) describing the last 12 days in Hitler's Führerbunker before the end of WWII. Cheers, Ralf lol I was in pretty crappy mood this week. This video makes me feel a whole lot better. Thanks. Ampere - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.phpp=sourceforgeCID=DEVDEV ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
