Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery development in Magdeburg (Germany)

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Roberto !

Roberto Inzerillo wrote:

> If you speak german, and are interested in scenery development, take a 
> look at what City Magdeburg have done with vritual reality.
> Frauhofer Institut (remember MP3) is providing the technology.
> Start the video at min 07:27

Which video   ;-)
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
Arnt Karlsen wrote:

> ..this also means nobody can port FlightGear to Open Solaris,

Don't feed the trolls 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
"Vikas N Kumar" wrote:

> I successfully built Producer on Solaris 7 just now. My machine is
> very slow, 300MHz Ultra10 SPARC with 128MB RAM.
   ^
Oh my   Did you use GCC or the SunStudio compiler ? I tried the
latter and here the Producer build systems definitely need some more
tweaks. I hope to get it fixed this weekend.

> I had to install X11-R6.9 for this though, since in Solaris 7, there
> is no X11/XKBlib.h in the Xsun installation.

foehn: 8:38:01 ~> uname -a
SunOS foehn 5.10 Generic_118822-30 sun4u sparc
foehn: 8:38:10 ~> find /usr/openwin/ -name XKBlib\*
/usr/openwin/share/include/X11/XKBlib.h

> However, I compiled and built X11-R6.9 and then compiled and built
> Producer successfully without making any changes.

Compiling X11 is a fun thing, especially when you run the build on a
slow machine for multiple days and in the end you get a result that
really works  :-)
I did that on a Sparc2 when early releases of X11R6 were state of the
art   Still I'm unsure if you're gonna find an appropriate
accelerated X display driver for the graphics card of your choice that
works with stock X11R6.9 on the Sun. I expect the NVidia driver for
example to rely on the inftrastructure of Sun's distribution of X11.

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Vikas N Kumar
Hi Martin

On 12/1/06, Martin Spott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
\> I'm currently working with Don Burns to get OpenProducer/CVS to build
> on Solaris (again). The biggest part of the build system is already in

I successfully built Producer on Solaris 7 just now. My machine is
very slow, 300MHz Ultra10 SPARC with 128MB RAM.

I had to install X11-R6.9 for this though, since in Solaris 7, there
is no X11/XKBlib.h in the Xsun installation. From many other
sites/forums on the net, I hear that Solaris 8 had a better Xsun
package which had that file.
However, I compiled and built X11-R6.9 and then compiled and built
Producer successfully without making any changes. OpenThreads also
built fine.

I haven't been able to build OpenSceneGraph since the machine goes out
of virtual memory while compiling, so I will have to build it in
parts.

Vikas


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 2 Dec 2006 00:31:35 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Hi Vikas,
> 
> "Vikas N Kumar" wrote:
> 
> > The next thing would be to build OpenSceneGraph and its dependents.
> 
> I'm currently working with Don Burns to get OpenProducer/CVS to build
> on Solaris (again). The biggest part of the build system is already in
> a working state, but some includes and/or link libraries (I can't

..their code and build system _is_ GPL too, and not just CDDL?
(AFAIUI, Jörg Schiller was kicked out of Debian because he set up a
litigation trap with cdrecord as GPL code and some headers and the build
system under Sun's CDDL.  He has his own special legal theory on why
he believes this is legal.  Sun too disagrees, they designed the CDDL
specificly to make it and Open Solaris, incompatible with the GPL.

..this also means nobody can port FlightGear to Open Solaris, unless
they the financial _and_ litigation muscles to spank both Microsoft,
Sun, tSCOG, Novell, BSA etc outta court and into bankruptsy court.
http://groklaw.net is the proper venue for further discussion of this.

> remember at the moment) are still not in the right place. I'll post
> here when it's done,
> 
>   Martin.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Martin Spott
Hi Vikas,

"Vikas N Kumar" wrote:

> The next thing would be to build OpenSceneGraph and its dependents.

I'm currently working with Don Burns to get OpenProducer/CVS to build
on Solaris (again). The biggest part of the build system is already in
a working state, but some includes and/or link libraries (I can't
remember at the moment) are still not in the right place. I'll post
here when it's done,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Linux - Solaris && AMD64-SPARC64 interfacing

2006-12-01 Thread Vikas N Kumar
"Martin Spott" wrote:
> No idea, but you could help porting the current state of FlightGear to
 > Solaris  :-)

Hi Martin,
I have started working on it.
I have an Ultra 10 SPARC system running the 32-bit kernel and Solaris
7 (sunOS 5.7) .
I have successfully installed freeglut, the  current development
version of plib , current development version of OpenAL.
I am trying to build SimGear now, and I have made very minor changes
to configure.ac regarding Solaris and plib.
The next thing would be to build OpenSceneGraph and its dependents.
And finally FlightGear.

i shall keep you posted on all changes I might have had to make
regarding building on Solaris.

Is anyone else building the current CVS development version on Solaris ?

Regards,
Vikas

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