Re: [Flightgear-devel] Uncompressing apt.dat et al
Maintaining an obsolete apt.dat is a waste of time. Better teaming up on integrating the current 8.5 format. It works perfectly on X-Plane so why shouldn't it do the same in FG. --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com wrote: From: Ron Jensen w...@jentronics.com Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Uncompressing apt.dat et al To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 7:27 AM On Saturday 05 June 2010 20:51:45 George Patterson wrote: The file nav.dat is a database supplied by Robin Peel and (AFAIK) is not intended to be updated by the FG project. If there are mistakes or omissions they should be submitted upstream. Regards George However, I think it would be better to unzip nav.dat and apt.dat in our git so that local changes can be made and tracked. We are staying with an obsolete version of apt.dat for the near future so Robin won't be maintaining it for us. Thanks, Ron -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Uncompressing apt.dat et al
Ron Jensen wrote: However, I think it would be better to unzip nav.dat and apt.dat in our git so that local changes can be made and tracked. We are staying with an obsolete version of apt.dat for the near future so Robin won't be maintaining it for us. As long as we're sticking to the v8.10 format, I'm accepting update submissions which are being merged into this file: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/apt.dat.gz The following airfields have already seen improvements - which are included into the above file: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/Apt.Dat.txt Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Uncompressing apt.dat et al
Michael Sgier wrote: Maintaining an obsolete apt.dat is a waste of time. Better teaming up on integrating the current 8.5 format. You're invited to team up for the sake of saving us from wasting our time It works perfectly on X-Plane so why shouldn't it do the same in FG. but this statement makes be feel that you don't have a clue what you're talking about. As you could have read from _numerous_ forum postings (apparently you didn't), incorporating v8.50 airfields into FlightGear and its Scenery is a prettty complex task, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news
Hi David, David Megginson wrote: Maybe we should consider moving to a different OpenSource scenery package. I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ? Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news
Peter Morgan wrote: Is there a begginers guide ? There's a couple of TerraGear-related articles on The Wiki - plus the source code an included comments. Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Martin Spott martin.sp...@mgras.net wrote: Maybe we should consider moving to a different OpenSource scenery package. I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ? An Open-Source package including scenery-generation tools and a scenery-rendering library. Our biggest challenge, I think, would be finding one that supported atmospheric rendering (weather, etc.) as well as terrain. All the best, David -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] outerra news
David Megginson wrote: On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Martin Spott wrote: I'd be happy to read a more elaborate statement of what you're having in mind. What is the term scenery package supposed to mean ? An Open-Source package including scenery-generation tools and a scenery-rendering library. Our biggest challenge, I think, would be finding one that supported atmospheric rendering (weather, etc.) as well as terrain. I see, but I'm a uncertain if such an all-embracing package really exists - especially one which is capable of fulfilling all of FlightGear's assorted corner-case requirements. Those packages _I_ am aware of are employing different ways of aggregating various tasks - tasks which are in some way currently handled separately in FlightGear - around an OpenSceneGraph core or -derivative (Delta3D, OpenEaagles, ossimPlanet or the like). But they still expect you to prepare and fill the respective 'ingredients' yourself. Are you having some specific package in mind ? Therefore our plan on the Sceney _generation_ end has been to disassemble the various steps, which are currently accumulated in the 'fgfs-construct' binary, into individual pieces, thus allowing us to be prepared for feeding whichever file format and rendering pipeline FlightGear might use in the future ;-) Best regards, Martin. P.S.: BTW, FlightGear's development history has shown that you're likely going to be considered as being an ignorant bastard if you're not taking care of even the smallest niche feature - even during a transition period Therefore I think that a pretty clever strategy should be developed prior to touching any of FlightGear's core features ;-) -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Uncompressing apt.dat et al
On Sunday 06 June 2010 05:25:14 Martin Spott wrote: Ron Jensen wrote: However, I think it would be better to unzip nav.dat and apt.dat in our git so that local changes can be made and tracked. We are staying with an obsolete version of apt.dat for the near future so Robin won't be maintaining it for us. As long as we're sticking to the v8.10 format, I'm accepting update submissions which are being merged into this file: http://mapserver.flightgear.org/apt.dat.gz Right, and my point was keeping this file uncompressed in a git repository will make it easier for people, like me, who modify apt.dat locally to both track current changes and keep my changes safe. Thanks, Ron -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Request For Comments Proposed FG euroDev Conference Lelystad 6-7 November
Would there be any interest in an informal conference of developers/enthusiasts to run concurrently/after the FSWeekend (www.fsweekend.com) in Lelystat Netherlands at the beginning of November? All comments welcome. -- Best Regards Willie -- ThinkGeek and WIRED's GeekDad team up for the Ultimate GeekDad Father's Day Giveaway. ONE MASSIVE PRIZE to the lucky parental unit. See the prize list and enter to win: http://p.sf.net/sfu/thinkgeek-promo ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
