[Flightgear-devel] No FlightGear booth on LinuxTag 2012

2012-04-09 Thread Martin Spott
Hi folks,

due to personal time constraints among the team who traditionally did
the job for the past six years, there will be no FlightGear booth on
this year's LinuxTag exhibition in Berlin.
Some (few) of the usual suspects have announced that they're planning
to attend LinuxTag as regular visitors for a day or two, but it's still
completely unclear wether this might have the momentum to develop into
any spontaneously planned FlightGear meeting.

We're planning to get back onto the scene for LinuxTag 2013.

Cheers,
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[Flightgear-devel] Volunteer required in Edinburgh, Scotland

2012-04-09 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All,

Over the last couple of years I've done various FG simulations for my
local museum of flight (the National Museum of Flight,
http://www.nms.ac.uk/our_museums/museum_of_flight.aspx).  This has
varied from temporary simulations tying in with events they host, to a
permanent simulator that is part of their Fantastic Flight exhibit.
As well as helping out the museum by volunteering some time and
expertise,  it's a way to introduce FlightGear to a new audience, and
is usually great fun.

On the 17th June, they are hosting a Robots Live event, emphasising
new technology.  I'm running a temporary simulation so visitors can
try their hand at landing on an aircraft carrier using the F-35C.

The problem is that my wife's due date for our second child is at the
beginning of July, which is a bit close!  I'm looking for someone who
would be able to help out on the day, and possibly step in my place if
I'm unavailable.  Obviously you need to be based around Edinburgh,
Scotland, and ideally have your own laptop running the FG, or be
prepared to shift your PC.

If you are interested, drop me an email.

-Stuart

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[Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-09 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Hi,

what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat? Do we commit changes 
to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central repository for the data?

Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in git and zip it for the 
release in make dist?

Torsten

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-09 Thread Ron Jensen
On Monday 09 April 2012 15:05:58 Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,

 what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat? Do we commit changes
 to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central repository for the data?

 Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in git and zip it for the
 release in make dist?

 Torsten

I think it would be a great idea to gunzip nav.dat and apt.dat in git.

Ron

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-09 Thread HB-GRAL
Am 09.04.12 23:31, schrieb Ron Jensen:
 On Monday 09 April 2012 15:05:58 Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,

 what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat? Do we commit changes
 to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central repository for the data?

 Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in git and zip it for the
 release in make dist?

 Torsten

 I think it would be a great idea to gunzip nav.dat and apt.dat in git.

 Ron

Hi Torsten

As far as I know we are able to switch to apt.dat 850 version the next 
weeks, including a lot of updates. Recently I’m using it to produce new 
OSM test scenery for bolivia.

The 850 data is updated by xplane contributors every month, and it’s a 
busy place. I prepared a diff for the old flightgear 810 version airport 
updates to verify if we might loose changes made in flightgear apt.dat 
the last years (changes which never have come to the official apt.dat of 
xplane I guess).

apt.dat has an update cycle of 30 days, not half a year. I don’t know 
how this data could become some kind of live/online data acquisition 
for flightgear instead of distributing the whole file with official 
releases. Maybe terrasync should sync this file too?

And another point might be that recent apt.dat is 90 mb uncompressed. I 
don’t know what might happen to this big file in git and if changes are 
still browsable in a good matter. That’s why I prepared a git repo for 
apt.dat airport by airport as a proposal, to verify changes i.e. by 
ICAO. You can find it here (contains only 810 data changes by flightgear 
contributors, to compare with recent 850 data):
https://code.google.com/p/flightgear-world-scenery/source/browse/#git%2Ftools%2Fapt-extractor%2F032012-diff

To compare you can click on diff top right, i.e.:
https://code.google.com/p/flightgear-world-scenery/source/diff?spec=svne058cce0c457cfe7e7dd079d5d693766d8e26e48r=038ed45b210b19481bee8c1bf2d97044910ff5a1format=sidepath=/tools/apt-extractor/032012-diff/EBBL_850.datold_path=/tools/apt-extractor/032012-diff/EBBL_850.datold=9366cde3894c295e64783c184a06b12d79e19352

Here you can verify if it’s still worth to commit flightgear community 
changes to xplane apt.dat or not, probably.

(Sorry to post this google urls, this repo don’t have to be on google 
code, I just prepared that there to make an example.)

Cheers, Yves


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[Flightgear-devel] airport list

2012-04-09 Thread gapalp
I just started playing around in FlightGear development and wanted to intro myself. You all have a great piece of software here and I am enjoying it. I come from years of flight simming in other programs and doing some small commercial work in them. My day job involves corporate app development. My hobbies are astronomy, flight simming, and coding.Anyway, I am playing around with a cargo manager for FG. I have run into needing to pull an airport list to use in a random cargo job generator. Airinfo() and navinfo() don't appear to do it for me. Any way to get the list using an available C++ function? Just a list of ICAOs would be a start. Or will I need to read/parse through the apt.dat file?Thanks and I look forward to some coding fun :)gapalpgap...@gapalp.net

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-09 Thread Gene Buckle
On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Ron Jensen wrote:

 On Monday 09 April 2012 15:05:58 Torsten Dreyer wrote:
 Hi,

 what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat? Do we commit changes
 to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central repository for the data?

 Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in git and zip it for the
 release in make dist?

 Torsten

 I think it would be a great idea to gunzip nav.dat and apt.dat in git.

Any plans to support the v10 format that recently came out?  It adds 
traffic patterns and parking locations I think.

g.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz

2012-04-09 Thread Michael Sgier
Traffic and parking etc. are handled via xml files in Flightgear different to 
X-Plane.
But to make changes to the opensource apt.dat forward them to Robin:
http://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?showtopic=58356




--- On Tue, 4/10/12, Gene Buckle ge...@deltasoft.com wrote:

 From: Gene Buckle ge...@deltasoft.com
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] updates to nav.dat.gz
 To: FlightGear developers discussions 
 flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
 Date: Tuesday, April 10, 2012, 3:00 AM
 On Mon, 9 Apr 2012, Ron Jensen
 wrote:
 
  On Monday 09 April 2012 15:05:58 Torsten Dreyer wrote:
  Hi,
 
  what is our current policy for updates to nav.dat?
 Do we commit changes
  to the binary gzip'ed file or do we have a central
 repository for the data?
 
  Would it make sense to have the unzip'ed file in
 git and zip it for the
  release in make dist?
 
  Torsten
 
  I think it would be a great idea to gunzip nav.dat and
 apt.dat in git.
 
 Any plans to support the v10 format that recently came
 out?  It adds 
 traffic patterns and parking locations I think.
 
 g.
 
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 Home.
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 hobbies.
 
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 make a
 server-class system any more than sitting in a puddle makes
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