Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. The carrier is correct - sea level is wrong :-)) Wait for the tide to come in. Jon I presume this is to do with the fact that the sea is modelled as a few huge flat polys whose surfaces have a significant altitude change between the centres and the vertices. AFAIK this has not changed since the very early days of FG, but since we now all have graphics cards that are 2-3 orders of magnitude faster than when FG started, is now the time to increase the number of polys in the ocean? A reduction in the edge length of a factor of 3 would reduce the surface height variation by a factor of ~3, and increase the poly count in the ocean by a factor of 9, which I believe should be acceptable. Unfortunately, I have no idea where so start poking around in the codebase to do this though. Richard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Richard Bytheway wrote: Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. The carrier is correct - sea level is wrong :-)) Wait for the tide to come in. Jon I presume this is to do with the fact that the sea is modelled as a few huge flat polys whose surfaces have a significant altitude change between the centres and the vertices. Try one quad per tile :P AFAIK this has not changed since the very early days of FG, but since we now all have graphics cards that are 2-3 orders of magnitude faster than when FG started, is now the time to increase the number of polys in the ocean? A reduction in the edge length of a factor of 3 would reduce the surface height variation by a factor of ~3, and increase the poly count in the ocean by a factor of 9, which I believe should be acceptable. Unfortunately, I have no idea where so start poking around in the codebase to do this though. In the OSG tree, SGGenTile() in simgear/scene/tgb/obj.cxx. Tim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGTc+MeDhWHdXrDRURAslLAJ47BB4gzLo2H9guFYKdPLzGWbbv3gCeMhjp /ZPZdNExOucU1JK2LkzZyoQ= =HCmY -END PGP SIGNATURE- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 03:10 +0200, gh.robin wrote: Hello, With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. Here snapshots http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying3.jpg Regards Not quite Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow but getting closer. :-) Regards George - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1----- --Carriers are Flying
On Thu 17 May 2007 12:40, George Patterson wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 03:10 +0200, gh.robin wrote: Hello, With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. Here snapshots http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying3.jpg Regards Not quite Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow but getting closer. :-) Regards George Could be a joke unfortunately it is not. It has been checked, that is not an offset error within the 3D model definition. I guess, It is a zero level calculation bug regarding moving models (AI) on the sea. Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
gh.robin wrote: With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. The carrier is correct - sea level is wrong :-)) Martin. P.S.: Just a joke -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
On 5/17/07, gh.robin wrote: On Thu 17 May 2007 12:40, George Patterson wrote: On Thu, 2007-05-17 at 03:10 +0200, gh.robin wrote: Hello, With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. Here snapshots http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying3.jpg Regards Not quite Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow but getting closer. :-) Regards George Could be a joke unfortunately it is not. It has been checked, that is not an offset error within the 3D model definition. I guess, It is a zero level calculation bug regarding moving models (AI) on the sea. Regards -- Gérard It would be great if someone involved in this aspect of the code would be willing to dig in and figure out the problem before the final/official 0.9.11 release. My worry is that if there are not enough developers concerned about these sorts of problems, we will not have a very good release experience this time around. I do know that the ground intersection code is completely different between OSG and PLIB so something must have fallen through the cracks on the plib side. Thanks, Curt. -- Curtis Olson - University of Minnesota - FlightGear Project http://baron.flightgear.org/~curt/ http://www.humanfirst.umn.edu/ http://www.flightgear.org Unique text: 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
Martin Spott wrote: gh.robin wrote: With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. The carrier is correct - sea level is wrong :-)) Wait for the tide to come in. Jon - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1-------Carriers are Flying
Hello, With FlightGear-0.9.11-pre1 it is something strange we have Flying Carriers. Here snapshots http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying1.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying2.jpg http://perso.orange.fr/GRTux/Carrier-Flying3.jpg Regards -- Gérard - This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
