Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS still showing major MP problems...

2009-08-12 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Jacob Burbach wrote:
 Missing persons are listed in /ai/models/multiplayer[*], and
 /ai/models/multiplayer[*]/valid is true. Yet they do not show up in mp
 list, nor can I see there chat. Something has obviously changed within
 the last few weeks, was fine before that. Another one of those
 flightgear mysteries I guess...

OK, looks like we're getting somewhere.

Could you email me off-list the dump of /ai/models/multiplayer[*] ?

Are there any entries in /ai/models/multiplayer[*] with the same callsign?

It's been a long time since I looked at this code in detail, but IIRC it was
possible to get duplicate entries in the property tree due to network/server
timeouts, and the valid flag was used to deconflict them.

-Stuart



  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS still showing major MP problems...

2009-08-11 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Rob Shearman wrote:
Of late I have been reporting some bugs in the MP system, and I still 
 believe the problems stem from the more recent CVS builds.  Vivian 
 asked me to report whether there were any NASL console errors 
 associated, and I can now definitively say that there are none.  The 
 symptom is that two MP users on the same MP server at/near the 
 same location can see one anothers' aircrafts, but cannot communicate 
 with one another, and cannot see them in the Network Pilots List.

Hi Rob,

It sounds very much like the aircraft are present in the property tree (and 
hence
are visible) but the Nasal code has decided that they are invalid for some 
reason.

From a look at the Nasal code, the most likely scenario is that
 /ai/models/multiplayer[n]/valid=false, which will mean the aircraft isn't 
included
in the multiplayer.nas models.list variable.

However, the code in this area hasn't changed in quite a while.

Next time it happens, I suggest you
a) dump the /ai/models sub-tree to file
b) have a look for entries with valid=false, or duplicate (case-insenstive) 
callsigns.

-Stuart



  

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS still showing major MP problems...

2009-08-11 Thread Jacob Burbach
Missing persons are listed in /ai/models/multiplayer[*], and
/ai/models/multiplayer[*]/valid is true. Yet they do not show up in mp
list, nor can I see there chat. Something has obviously changed within
the last few weeks, was fine before that. Another one of those
flightgear mysteries I guess...

cheers!

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[Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS still showing major MP problems...

2009-08-08 Thread Rob Shearman, Jr.
Hello all --

Of late I have been reporting some bugs in the MP system, and I still believe 
the problems stem from the more recent CVS builds.  Vivian asked me to report 
whether there were any NASL console errors associated, and I can now 
definitively say that there are none.  The symptom is that two MP users on the 
same MP server at/near the same location can see one anothers' aircrafts, but 
cannot communicate with one another, and cannot see them in the Network Pilots 
List.

I am a Windows Vista user, using Fred's Win32 builds and doing corresponding 
data checkouts with Tortoise.  I originally discovered the MP problem using 
the 6/27 build, and reverting to the 5/23 build seemed to alleviate the issue.  
Again today I was using the 7/26 build, and switching to 5/23 seemed to fix 
things, although there was still a little weirdness (and of course I can't be 
sure what versions and/or builds everyone else in the scenario was using; I 
didn't stop to take a headcount, unfortunately).

I, and many other CVS users on the Forum who have reported similar problems, 
certainly appreciate you all looking into this.

Sincerely,
-Rob. (MD-Terp)

 Robert M. Shearman, Jr.
Transit Operations Supervisor,
University of Maryland Department of Transportation
also known as rm...@umd.edu



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS still showing major MP problems...

2009-08-08 Thread Jacob Burbach
Same thing here, ongoing for at least 2 weeks. People often missing in
chat and mp list, though I can see them visually. Sometimes it seems
to only let me see two others in the chat/mp_list at a time, other
times I can see more, and rarely can see everyone. I have zero nasal
errors, or errors of any other kind.

cheers

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