Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2010-04-12 Thread Maik Justus
Hello Andreas,

what is the actual status of the 3D-model?

Best regards,
Maik

Andreas Bresser schrieb am 18.07.2009 02:31:
 Hi Maik,

   
 Nice. Will the finished model be published with GPL license? Would  
 be nice to have such a model within cvs.
 
 Yes, definitely (and if not GPL than some other free license, but I  
 think I'll go with GPL)!
 This model is now just for one Quadcopter, but there are a lot models  
 out there that are quite simmilar, so I think I will modify the  
 visible and physical model a bit and create some more  
 Quadcopter-models (would be cool to see a swarm of them in the air :-) )

   
 I had a look into these files and have a flying version of the  
 Quadcopter now.
 
 cool!

   
 But it is very unstable.
 
 not so cool...

   
 I have to check, if these is caused partly by wrong parameters in  
 the xml File (I don't have any experience with simulating such small  
 rotors with YASim...). But it will definitively need an autopilot.  
 (E.g. the V22-Osprey has a simple autopilot. The same concept  
 should work for the quadcopter, too.) I will send you updated files  
 in the next days.
 
 Thank you very much! If you need more data or other informations, just  
 ask. I can't wait to see this thing flying.

 Andreas

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[Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2009-07-17 Thread Andreas Bresser
Hi.

I am working on a Quadrocopter (http://www.mikrokopter.de) model in  
Flightgear with YAsim.

After the loading of the model the Simulation hangs (in an endless-loop?).

Can anyone help me and take a look at my yasim-xml file?
It can be found at http://phidev.org/~andreas/copter.zip

The comments in the file are in german, if you have any questions ask me.

P.S. HHS suggested I should ask here, so this is identical with the  
forum post http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=5413

Greetings,

Andreas

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2009-07-17 Thread Maik Justus
Hello Andreas,
Andreas Bresser schrieb am 17.07.2009 19:22:
 Hi.

 I am working on a Quadrocopter (http://www.mikrokopter.de) model in  
 Flightgear with YAsim.

   
Nice. Will the fiinished model be published with GPL license? Would be 
nice to have such a model within cvs.
 After the loading of the model the Simulation hangs (in an endless-loop?).

 Can anyone help me and take a look at my yasim-xml file?
 It can be found at http://phidev.org/~andreas/copter.zip

   
I had a look into these files and have a flying version of the 
Quadcopter now. But it is very unstable. I have to check, if these is 
caused partly by wrong parameters in the xml File (I don't have any 
experience with simulating such small rotors with YASim...). But it will 
definitively need an autopilot. (E.g. the V22-Osprey has a simple 
autopilot. The same concept should work for the quadcopter, too.) I 
will send you updated files in the next days.
 The comments in the file are in german, if you have any questions ask me.
   
I have no problems to read german comments ;-)
 P.S. HHS suggested I should ask here, so this is identical with the  
 forum post http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=5413

 Greetings,

 Andreas
   
Maik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2009-07-17 Thread Andreas Bresser
Hi Maik,

 Nice. Will the finished model be published with GPL license? Would  
 be nice to have such a model within cvs.
Yes, definitely (and if not GPL than some other free license, but I  
think I'll go with GPL)!
This model is now just for one Quadcopter, but there are a lot models  
out there that are quite simmilar, so I think I will modify the  
visible and physical model a bit and create some more  
Quadcopter-models (would be cool to see a swarm of them in the air :-) )

 I had a look into these files and have a flying version of the  
 Quadcopter now.
cool!

 But it is very unstable.
not so cool...

 I have to check, if these is caused partly by wrong parameters in  
 the xml File (I don't have any experience with simulating such small  
 rotors with YASim...). But it will definitively need an autopilot.  
 (E.g. the V22-Osprey has a simple autopilot. The same concept  
 should work for the quadcopter, too.) I will send you updated files  
 in the next days.
Thank you very much! If you need more data or other informations, just  
ask. I can't wait to see this thing flying.

Andreas

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2009-07-17 Thread Ron Jensen
On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 19:22 +0200, Andreas Bresser wrote:
 Hi.
 
 I am working on a Quadrocopter (http://www.mikrokopter.de) model in  
 Flightgear with YAsim.
 
 After the loading of the model the Simulation hangs (in an endless-loop?).
 
 Can anyone help me and take a look at my yasim-xml file?
 It can be found at http://phidev.org/~andreas/copter.zip
 
 The comments in the file are in german, if you have any questions ask me.
 
 P.S. HHS suggested I should ask here, so this is identical with the  
 forum post http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=5413
 
 Greetings,
 
 Andreas

Hi Andreas,

I don't really have a clue when it comes to YASim, but I started a
quadracopter in JSBSim awhile back...

There is a forum discussion here:
http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4t=2855st=0sk=tsd=a

And my (gpl) results are here:
http://www.jentronics.com/fgfs/temp/nmine.zip

Good luck,

Ron



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Quadrocopter (Quadcopter) / Mikrokopter / X-UFO / Microdrone

2009-07-17 Thread Andreas Bresser
Hi Ron,

 I don't really have a clue when it comes to YASim, but I started a
 quadracopter in JSBSim awhile back...
I found your Quadcopter-model 2 days ago and tested it a bit, but I  
think the flight behaviour is quite strange.
I read that YASim is used to create helicopters and as far as I  
understood it is not really possible to create a realistic helicopter  
model with JSBSim.
Besides that, all helicopters I found for FG are made with YASim.
Please correct me, if I am wrong. Maybe I should have asked earlier  
for your help, but I have found your model when I nearly finished with  
my own.

Before I started I searched the forum for quadcopter, quadrocopter,  
Mikrokopter, X-Ufo and Microdrone but found nothing. That is the  
reason why the forum-title and the subject of this mail are that long  
:-).

 Good luck,
thank you

Andreas

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