[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Erik Hofman -- Monday 06 February 2006 13:35:
 Personally I feel it would be a nice addition.

OK, then. I'll commit tomorrow around midday if there are no
objections until then. The latest patch can be found here again,
along with some documentation:

  http://members.aon.at/mfranz/flightgear/festival.html

I'll also add most of this to $FG_ROOT/Docs/README.sound. The
feature will be turned off by default (/sim/sound/voices/enabled).
I will not commit the patch that disables the old ATC message
display -- this should be discussed first. The new subsystem
obsoletes the old ATC voice function, as it can fully 'emulate'
its capabilities. This will also be described in the README. 

Those who have the patch already applied and want to test the
latest version do only have to copy the new files voice.cxx
and voice.hxx to the Sound/ dir. There are no other relevant
changes.

m.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-10 Thread David Luff
Melchior FRANZ writes:

 
 I'll start to commit once I got permission. (The old ATC voice
 thing will lose the /sim/sound/voice property first, which is used
 as an enabled flag, and finally die.)
 

Eek - that's somewhat unfortunate phraseology you're using there, given that 
it's my wife speaking it!

Cheers - Dave


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-10 Thread David Luff
Melchior FRANZ writes:

 * David Luff -- Friday 10 February 2006 23:09:
  Melchior FRANZ writes:
   I'll start to commit once I got permission. (The old ATC voice
   thing will lose the /sim/sound/voice property first, which is used
   as an enabled flag, and finally die.)
  
  Eek - that's somewhat unfortunate phraseology you're using there, given
  that it's my wife speaking it! 
 
 No, no. I'm not speaking aobut the ATIS messages. These are fine and 
 will remain. I'm only talking about the ugly hard-coded Festival
 socket stuff.
 

Phew :-)

I'm looking forward to trying out the festival stuff BTW, when I manage to get 
a large enough time-slice of spare time.

Intelligent response to user voice input using Sphinx next?

;-)

Cheers - Dave


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-10 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Luff -- Friday 10 February 2006 23:54:
 Melchior FRANZ writes:
  No, no. I'm not speaking aobut the ATIS messages. These are fine and 
  will remain.

 Phew :-)

I like the ATIS recordings a lot, and others on IRC do so, too. The ATIS
voice will have a long life.  :-)



 I'm looking forward to trying out the festival stuff BTW, when I
 manage to get a large enough time-slice of spare time. 

It's quite funny. And really flexible, too. All subsytems/aircraft
are encouraged to make use of this. (But none should rely on it being
there, of course. Things that use it have to work sanely without.)



 Intelligent response to user voice input using Sphinx next?

Not exactly on the TODO, but I should probably look into it again
after ignoring it for a long time. Should have progressed a lot, too.

m.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-08 Thread Christian Mayer
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John Wojnaroski schrieb:
 If someone wants to provide me with a script or list of phrases to
 record I know I can find a professionally trained voice to create the
 audio files. As for a Texan accent, I think we can work that as well and
 probably a few others as well.
 
 Do we want it a 8hz or 16hz?

pickyNeither 8 Hz nor 16 Hz/picky

You usually should get the source data in the best quality available (=
44 kHz or 48 kHz should be enough for a mono sound). Harddisk space is
cheap and transferring the files over a flat rate is also harmless.
This allows an optimal conversion later (and once the requirements get
bigger, eg. when all planes will use digital radios or so, we can easily
recalculate the new data)

Far more interesting is the best shape/size when the audio ends up in
the base package. There it should sound right and the size should be small.

For audio that gets transmitted over an noisy AM link 8 kHz might easily
be enough, especially when statics are added.

The audio that comes from the plane itself (IIRC that's the one we are
currently talking about) the quality is much better AFAIK. So 16 kHz
might required, if not even better.

CU,
Christian

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-08 Thread Isao Yamashita
Agreed.As far as a list of phrases / voices goes :  Voice Type (Preferrably all girl's voice) :BritishFrenchGermanSpanishRussian  Texan !--- Computer Voices ---  Altitude !Warning !Caution ! (everytime the master caution light flashes)Windshear !Pull Up !Landing Gear (when near ground and still the gears retracted)  Glideslope ! (when off-glideslope)  Bingo !Fuel Low !(number x / left / right) engine fire !APU fire !  Over GOverspeedMaximum Angle of Attack  (2000)10005002001005040302010--- Aircraft Carrier - LSO (Landing Signal Officer) ---  Power !Line Up !Bolter !Wave Off !Sh*t ! (for a touch of realism)Fu*k ! (for a touch of realism) 
   *** Phrases for text-to-speech ***  --- Terminal Areas ---[All the clearance readout format][type of a/c N] cleared to [clearance limit], turn heading xxx, climb and maintain , expect the further clearance xx minutes after the   departure, depature frequency xxx.xx, squawk   [type of a/c N] cleared as filed[type of a/c N] squawk [type of a/c N] squawk 1200, resume own navigation, good day[type of a/c N] contact xxx approach on xxx.xx, good day[type of a/c N] standby[type of a/c N] traffic, x o'clock at [type of a/c N] do you have the traffic insight ?[type of a/c N] maintain the visual separation[type of a/c N] turn xx degrees left/right immediately ! (happened to me once)[type of a/c N] say your intention ? --- Around Towers ---[All the ATIS readout format]xxx airport xx:x
 x zulu,
 temperature xx, dewpoint xx, altimeter xx.xx, wind xxx at xx, active runway xx, extra notams, on initial contact you have   information (x)  extra notamsread-back all the taxi instructionsread-back all the hold-short instructions  [type of a/c N]clear to land[type of a/c N]clear for takeoff[type of a/c N]clear to taxi runway xxwind checkwind xxx at xx  [type of a/c N] roger, execute the missed approach as published, contact departure xxx.xx  [type of a/c N] how do you like to terminate ? (full-stop or touch-and-go)[type of a/c N] roger  [type of a/c N] go ahead[type of a/c N] you are number x, following [type of a/c] on [short final / base / downwind][type of a/c N] cleared for ILS / VOR / LDA / NDB xx approach, tower frequency xxx.xx[type of a/c N] do you have the current ATIS ?  [type of a/c N] turn
 left/right heading xxx[type of a/c N] climb and maintain   [type of a/c N] what is your destination ? (After passing the hold-short lines)[type of a/c N] taxi to xxx (your paking spot)--- User menu selection / voice recog. (in the distant future) ---[type of a/c N] at downwind[type of a/c N] entering 45[type of a/c N] holding short[type of a/c N] missed approach[type of a/c N] request contact approach[type of a/c N] request special VFR approachxxx approach / departure / center, [type of a/c N] requestSome of the stuff overlaps with other category, but you've got the jist of it.IsaoChristian Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  -BEGIN PGP SIGNED
 MESSAGE-Hash: SHA1John Wojnaroski schrieb: If someone wants to provide me with a script or list of phrases to record I know I can find a professionally trained voice to create the audio files. As for a Texan accent, I think we can work that as well and probably a few others as well.  Do we want it a 8hz or 16hz?Neither 8 Hz nor 16 HzYou usually should get the source data in the best quality available (=44 kHz or 48 kHz should be enough for a mono sound). Harddisk space ischeap and transferring the files over a flat rate is also harmless.This allows an optimal conversion later (and once the requirements getbigger, eg. when all planes will use digital radios or so, we can easilyrecalculate the new data)Far more interesting is the best shape/size when the audio ends up inthe base package. There it should sound right and the size should be small.
 For
 audio that gets transmitted over an noisy AM link 8 kHz might easilybe enough, especially when statics are added.The audio that comes from the plane itself (IIRC that's the one we arecurrently talking about) the quality is much better AFAIK. So 16 kHzmight required, if not even better.CU,Christian-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (MingW32)iD8DBQFD6c2DlhWtxOxWNFcRAqeiAJ4lozRwWSuYDstmxnx/ir7pBYmb3ACguqmGwedayEDcmlxm93c88TKZqWc==k5Qq-END PGP SIGNATUREThis SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log filesfor problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makessearching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK!http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642___Flightgear-dev
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-08 Thread John Wojnaroski

Okay, that's a start

The text-to-speech stuff is best handled by festival, so we won't do 
those. Combinations of words and phrases are best handled by something 
other than canned audio files,  just way too many possibilities for 
context specific communications.  Things like ATC chatter provide a nice 
non-specific background. Idea is to mix that with cockpit cues and 
festival text-to-speech for AI generate communications.


As for sex of the voice, we need to go with what the various aircraft 
models use. In some this is a male voice.  Language specific is not a 
problem.  It will take a few weeks to pull it all together, but doable.  
Stay tuned



Isao Yamashita wrote:


Agreed.
 
As far as a list of phrases / voices goes :

Voice Type (Preferrably all girl's voice) :
British
French
German
Spanish
Russian
Texan !
 
--- Computer Voices ---

Altitude !
Warning !
Caution ! (everytime the master caution light flashes)
Windshear !
Pull Up !
Landing Gear (when near ground and still the gears retracted)
Glideslope ! (when off-glideslope)
Bingo !
Fuel Low !
(number x / left / right) engine fire !
APU fire !
Over G
Overspeed
Maximum Angle of Attack
(2000)
1000
500
200
100
50
40
30
20
10
 





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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-07 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote

 
  I'm working at getting Festival to compile under Cygwin. They claim
 that
  it
  does, and, while it's very long-winded, it's looking good so far ...
  
  
 
  Is that pronounced WINE-D or WIN-D?
 
 
 Nah - that's as in it doesn't work - yet :-(
 

After some trouble and lots of help from Melchior, we got Festival to work
under Cygwin last night. Here's what we found, in case any other Cygwin user
wants to try.

Festival compiles under Cygwin right out of the box - just follow the
instructions.

The instructions invite you to make test to check your installation. This
came up with a couple of errors, which I couldn't find a way to fix, but
don't seem affect the operation of Festival, so I ignored them. From the
command line, Festival does what it says it does.

Melchior's instructions need amending:

Just for the record, this all works for Cygwin:

  1) apply the attached patch basedir.diff in your fgfs dir
  2) copy these two files to src/Sound/:
 http://members.aon.at/mfranz/voice.cxx   [2.5 kB]
 http://members.aon.at/mfranz/voice.hxx   [2 kB]
  3) configure  make 

I needed ./autogen.sh, ./configure, make install as you would expect in
Cygwin.

Cygwin accepts '$ nice festival --server ' but this doesn't work with FG.
Perhaps the 'nice' settings need adjustment. No matter, '$ festival
--server' or '$ festival --server ' both work just fine. I couldn't find a
way to stop the festival server started in background with the '' command
in Cygwin, but Windows Task Manager does the trick.

You need --prop:/sim/presets/voice/host=localhost. I added it to my
system.fgfsrc file.

So after a little effort, Festival and FG work together. The default voice
is poor, but Melchior is working on that, so we can pick one of the better
ones that are available. 

It's a very nice facility, and I would encourage Cygwin users to implement
it. Well done Melchior, and thanks for the help. I look forward to this
forming part of the base code

Vivian

 



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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-07 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* John Wojnaroski -- Tuesday 07 February 2006 16:50:
 Don't have the code in front of me, IIRC that address is where FG sends 
 the text string to a small wrapper program that runs the festival client 

OK. The voice subsytem can easily handle that, too:

  /sim/presets/voice/host=192.168.2.15
  /sim/presets/voice/port=7100
  /sim/sound/voice[0]/festival=false

This sends voice[0] in raw form to that address like before, and should
work for you out of the box. festival defaults to true, which adds
the festival syntax around the messages and the pitch/speed commands.



 My approach is to run festival on a seperate machine so as not to reduce 
 the frame rate.

That was never a question. Of course that's preferable and possible.
It's just not an option for the majority and shouldn't be default.



[sphinx]
 It was moderately difficult.  The biggest item was creating the word 
 dictionary or corpus

Ahh, yes. Now I remember. This wasn't only tedious, it also made the
whole sphinx a fata morgana. I had thought it were a real speech-to-text
solution, not a text sample recognition program. I instantly lost interest,
but I still have it here.  :-)

m.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-07 Thread Ralf Gerlich

Martin Spott schrieb:

Stefan Seifert wrote:


[...] Now if one could add distortions to festival for making radio 
transmissions more realistic it would be perfect :)



Push the whole thing through a GSM codec on a loaded machine and you're
done  :-)


Listening to the ATC chatter introduced by Curt I might think that even 
that is not enough ;-)


Cheers,
Ralf



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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-07 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vivian Meazza -- Tuesday 07 February 2006 09:35:
 So after a little effort, Festival and FG work together. The default voice
 is poor, but Melchior is working on that, so we can pick one of the better
 ones that are available. 

This is now working. I have defined three voice groups with better
voices: us[123]_mbrola. One should be able to use any of the voices
from here: http://tcts.fpms.ac.be/synthesis/mbrola/mbrcopybin.html

So I can now make atc, pilot and copilot speak with different voices.
Now it's starting to get nice  funny.



 Well done Melchior, and thanks for the help. I look forward to this
 forming part of the base code

Thanks, and you are welcome. :-)

m.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-07 Thread John Wojnaroski
If someone wants to provide me with a script or list of phrases to 
record I know I can find a professionally trained voice to create the 
audio files. As for a Texan accent, I think we can work that as well and 
probably a few others as well.


Do we want it a 8hz or 16hz?

Regards
John W.

Erik Hofman wrote:


Isao Yamashita wrote:


Hmm, maybe she was concerned about her copyright ?



I've explained the copyrights, but none the less.
Anyhow.

I think it would be authentic enough if you can record a girl's voice 
who has a nice voice (like X-Plane) and willing to do it for a open 
source flightsim ?



Please let her have a Texan accent then.
:-)

Erik





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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vassilii Khachaturov -- Sunday 05 February 2006 18:51:
 Would it be difficult to include an urgent shut-up interface?

We could actually have two or three channels that could speak
at the same time. One for background voice (ATC), and one
for a foreground voice (instructor, copilot). We can even
have one with slightly increased volume  pitch (We will
all die, whaaa ...!), or make volume/pitch adjustable etc.
It just doesn't look as if there's much interest.

m.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Erik Hofman

Melchior FRANZ wrote:


It just doesn't look as if there's much interest.


The original code was written for/by John Wojnaroski so you might be 
asking this a the wrong time. Personally I feel it would be a nice addition.


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Josh Babcock
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
 Would be nice
 if the b29 copilot reported gear down etc., or the bo105 copilot
 gave some navigation hints (I think we are too far already. :-)

Actually, there are plans for this. Originally I was just going to have
messages from the crew pop up in windows, but at one point I was
considering having them respond using .wav files and the sound config.
This is all part of the larger idea of having a nasal based crew to
offload pilot workload. That way I can keep the realism of the b29 and
still have it flyable by one person.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ

 * Erik Hofman -- Monday 06 February 2006 13:35:
  The original code was written for/by John Wojnaroski so you might be
  asking this a the wrong time. Personally I feel it would be a nice
 addition.
 
 OK, then I'll continue to work on it (as I've done since yesterday).
 I'll make it so that the preferences file decides how many voices there
 are. For each /sim/sound/voice[*]/{text,volume,pitch,speed} there will
 a channel be opened to festival and maintained by the subsystem.
 We could then add aliases for copilot, instructor, etc. Would be nice
 if the b29 copilot reported gear down etc., or the bo105 copilot
 gave some navigation hints (I think we are too far already. :-)
 
 BTW: the whole thing won't depend on festival. One can easily write
 a few lines of perl to simulate a festival server and use the text
 for different purposes. For example, to let a human or a trained
 monkey read it. And all others can map the text to the screen.log.
 
 I'll start to commit once I got permission. (The old ATC voice
 thing will lose the /sim/sound/voice property first, which is used
 as an enabled flag, and finally die.)
 

I'm working at getting Festival to compile under Cygwin. They claim that it
does, and, while it's very long-winded, it's looking good so far ...

Vivian



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Curtis L. Olson

Vivian Meazza wrote:


I'm working at getting Festival to compile under Cygwin. They claim that it
does, and, while it's very long-winded, it's looking good so far ...
 



Is that pronounced WINE-D or WIN-D?

:-)

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curtis L. Olson

 
 Vivian Meazza wrote:
 
 I'm working at getting Festival to compile under Cygwin. They claim that
 it
 does, and, while it's very long-winded, it's looking good so far ...
 
 
 
 Is that pronounced WINE-D or WIN-D?
 

Nah - that's as in it doesn't work - yet :-(

Vivian




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread John Wojnaroski
Yes, this is going to be a crazy week. But quickly then; 

The original code I sent on to Dave Luft had a socket interface in the 
AI module for the ATIS and AI controller.  Somewhere on a disc that code 
and a howto I started on setting up the festival server/client 
interface to FG exists. There was also a speech recognition program 
using SphinxII under development by CMU, and a modest set of ATC phrases 
and words that formed the corpus.  You could talk and an AI controller 
would respond, but it had a extremely limit *brain*. All it could do was 
respond and okay your request.


The festival produced speech is very mechanicasl, but can be *humanized* 
with a markup language called SABLE.  There is also a DB of voices 
available and the capability to create additional voices --- not a 
trivial task to be undertaken by the faint-hearted ;-)


The ATC chatter added by Curtis creates an amazingly real aural 
environment, even if a bit out of context. No question that voice would 
be a good addition.


Regards
John W.

Erik Hofman wrote:


Melchior FRANZ wrote:


It just doesn't look as if there's much interest.



The original code was written for/by John Wojnaroski so you might be 
asking this a the wrong time. Personally I feel it would be a nice 
addition.


Erik





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-06 Thread Erik Hofman

Isao Yamashita wrote:
I thinks it is also useful to simulate the bitchin' betty computer 
voices for military jets / airliner planes.


You know, I even asked the female that has spoken in the original 
Bitchin' Betty commands for the F-16 for some audio files. Unfortunately 
I never got an answer :-(


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vassilii Khachaturov -- Sunday 05 February 2006 18:51:
 Would it be difficult to include an urgent shut-up interface?

I can make it delete the queue when an empty string is set.
But I can't revoke the string that already went to festival.

m.


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[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH][RFC] speech synthesis with festival

2006-02-05 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Sunday 05 February 2006 18:58:
 * Vassilii Khachaturov -- Sunday 05 February 2006 18:51:
  Would it be difficult to include an urgent shut-up interface?
 
 I can make it delete the queue when an empty string is set.
 But I can't revoke the string that already went to festival.

Or better make a second listener with priority.

m.


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