Re: [Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-08 Thread kreuzritter2000
Am Sonntag, den 05.06.2011, 20:18 -0500 schrieb Curtis Olson:
 This weekend I took the plunge and upgraded my main desktop machine to
 Fedora 15 + Gnome 3.  Out of the gate I hit some serious culture
 shock, but I'm starting to get the hang of the new gnome interface and
 it's growing on me quickly.
 
 
 There are many good reviews posted online explaining the new gnome 3
 interface, but I figured I'd post my own thoughts too:
 
 
 http://gallinazo.flightgear.org/technology/fedora-15-and-gnome-3/
 

You wrote in your blog:
 Open office is gone.  Now replaced with something called “Libre
Office”. 


Technically Open Office and Libre Office are the same.
Open Office got forked by members of the Open Office project to create
Libre Office after some issues with Oracle. Oracle bought Sun, so they
own Open Office now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LibreOffice#History


Personally i don't like the workflow on Gnome 3, i will stick with Gnome
2 as long as possible or switch to another Desktop Environment like KDE4
or XFCE in future.


Best Regards, 
 Oliver C.




 
 FlightGear seems to compile and run pretty much exactly as before with
 Fedora 14, so no complaints there.  So far so good ... !
 
 
 Curt.
 




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-05 Thread Curtis Olson
This weekend I took the plunge and upgraded my main desktop machine to
Fedora 15 + Gnome 3.  Out of the gate I hit some serious culture shock, but
I'm starting to get the hang of the new gnome interface and it's growing on
me quickly.

There are many good reviews posted online explaining the new gnome 3
interface, but I figured I'd post my own thoughts too:

http://gallinazo.flightgear.org/technology/fedora-15-and-gnome-3/

FlightGear seems to compile and run pretty much exactly as before with
Fedora 14, so no complaints there.  So far so good ... !

Curt.


On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 3:24 AM, Chris Baines wrote:

 I use Gnome 3 and FlightGear and it works well. I do like the Shell,
 and after a while it does grow on you.

 The main problem I think is that people logically think that as Gnome
 3 is released the Shell is completed, where that is far from the
 truth, much of the work is still to be done.

 As you point out its hard to configure and might not be as intuitive
 as it could be but it looks like an alright base to work from.

 On 3 June 2011 08:54, Stefan Seifert n...@detonation.org wrote:
  On Friday 03 June 2011 06:10:24 Curtis Olson wrote:
 
  Looks like the linux desktop folks have stopped chasing windows and are
 now
  chasing mac?   Quote from an online review: gnome 3 gives you any color
  theme you like ... if you like black.
 
  s/linux desktop/Gnome/
  There's still KDE and all the lighter desktops available which do not
 force
  anything on you.
 
  And according to a phoronix comparison, the KDE window manager seems most
 of
  the time to be the one affecting performance the least. And if that's
 still too
  much, deactivating desktop effects is just a shortcut away.
 
 
 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_desktop_managers1num=1
 
  Stefan
 
 
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-03 Thread Guillaume Chauvat
Le 03/06/2011 06:10, Curtis Olson a écrit :
 Is anyone here running gnome 3 (and you would probably know if you
 were.) :-)

 I just loaded up Fedora 15 on a test machine and my first comment was
 hmmm...  I haven't tried to get FlightGear running.  I guess I can't
 imagine why it wouldn't run just fine although the desktop requires
 accelerated opengl hardware so I hope there won't be too much
 competition for resources when running FlightGear.

 Does anyone have any feed back on issues or problems specific to the
 new gnome 3 desktop scheme? Building/running FlightGear?

 Looks like the linux desktop folks have stopped chasing windows and
 are now chasing mac?   Quote from an online review: gnome 3 gives you
 any color theme you like ... if you like black.

 Is gnome 3 viable for real work?

 I've heard gnome 3 and intuitive mentioned in the same sentence.
  I guess I'm going to have to go lookup the definition of intuitive
 again -- oh here it is -- something that makes obvious sense after
 you've figured it out. :-)

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Hello,

I recently installed GNOME 3 on Debian and there is no problem with
FlightGear. I have a nVidia GT240 graphic card.

GNOME 3 is not yet very stable on my machine, but it was my choice to
install packages from the experimental repository :-). It was difficult
for me to get used to it at the beginning, but now I find it very
practical. But it is harder to configure than before (not only the
theme, but everything else) and I think it's a bad idea.
gnome-tweak-tool and dconf-editor help a bit If you don't know them already.

Guillaume



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-03 Thread Stefan Seifert
On Friday 03 June 2011 06:10:24 Curtis Olson wrote:

 Looks like the linux desktop folks have stopped chasing windows and are now
 chasing mac?   Quote from an online review: gnome 3 gives you any color
 theme you like ... if you like black.

s/linux desktop/Gnome/
There's still KDE and all the lighter desktops available which do not force 
anything on you.

And according to a phoronix comparison, the KDE window manager seems most of 
the time to be the one affecting performance the least. And if that's still too 
much, deactivating desktop effects is just a shortcut away.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_desktop_managers1num=1

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-03 Thread Chris Baines
I use Gnome 3 and FlightGear and it works well. I do like the Shell,
and after a while it does grow on you.

The main problem I think is that people logically think that as Gnome
3 is released the Shell is completed, where that is far from the
truth, much of the work is still to be done.

As you point out its hard to configure and might not be as intuitive
as it could be but it looks like an alright base to work from.

On 3 June 2011 08:54, Stefan Seifert n...@detonation.org wrote:
 On Friday 03 June 2011 06:10:24 Curtis Olson wrote:

 Looks like the linux desktop folks have stopped chasing windows and are now
 chasing mac?   Quote from an online review: gnome 3 gives you any color
 theme you like ... if you like black.

 s/linux desktop/Gnome/
 There's still KDE and all the lighter desktops available which do not force
 anything on you.

 And according to a phoronix comparison, the KDE window manager seems most of
 the time to be the one affecting performance the least. And if that's still 
 too
 much, deactivating desktop effects is just a shortcut away.

 http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=articleitem=linux_desktop_managers1num=1

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[Flightgear-devel] gnome 3 ?

2011-06-02 Thread Curtis Olson
Is anyone here running gnome 3 (and you would probably know if you were.)
:-)

I just loaded up Fedora 15 on a test machine and my first comment was
hmmm...  I haven't tried to get FlightGear running.  I guess I can't
imagine why it wouldn't run just fine although the desktop requires
accelerated opengl hardware so I hope there won't be too much competition
for resources when running FlightGear.

Does anyone have any feed back on issues or problems specific to the new
gnome 3 desktop scheme? Building/running FlightGear?

Looks like the linux desktop folks have stopped chasing windows and are now
chasing mac?   Quote from an online review: gnome 3 gives you any color
theme you like ... if you like black.

Is gnome 3 viable for real work?

I've heard gnome 3 and intuitive mentioned in the same sentence.  I
guess I'm going to have to go lookup the definition of intuitive again -- oh
here it is -- something that makes obvious sense after you've figured it
out. :-)

Curt.
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