Re: [Flightgear-devel] TACAN freqs not in X-Plane database
Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: KLSV 012X is one of these. Last updates forgot this one we added to our nav.dat long time ago. Robin should have it in his papers but, well it's gone. a) Please bring it back !!! Have a patch handy ? Cheers, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] TACAN freqs not in X-Plane database
Martin Spott a e'crit : Alexis Bory - xiii wrote: KLSV 012X is one of these. Last updates forgot this one we added to our nav.dat long time ago. Robin should have it in his papers but, well it's gone. a) Please bring it back !!! Have a patch handy ? Cheers, Martin. Yes, see attached... and thanks! Alexis 26226a26227 13 36.24461279 -115.02511960 1871 97300 1000.0 LSV NELLIS TACAN -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] TACAN freqs not in X-Plane database
Hi all and Martin, Some freqs are not handled by X-Plane but are supported in FG. AFAIK this is because we use a workaround to make VORs compatible with TACAN on certain weird frequencies. KLSV 012X is one of these. Last updates forgot this one we added to our nav.dat long time ago. Robin should have it in his papers but, well it's gone. a) Please bring it back !!! b) I don't have any competency in radio and navaid stuff, so I wont do any proposal, but yes it would be nice to see this being fixed for once :-) Alexis -- Throughout its 18-year history, RSA Conference consistently attracts the world's best and brightest in the field, creating opportunities for Conference attendees to learn about information security's most important issues through interactions with peers, luminaries and emerging and established companies. http://p.sf.net/sfu/rsaconf-dev2dev ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Tacan frequencies for CLEM and CDG
Hello, This is mainly a question to Vivian. I would like to add into the carrier_nav.dat.gz file two new carrier Tacan freq one for Clemeceau the other for the coming Charles de Gaulle 12 999999 100 10900 0.000 CLM FNS Clemenceau TACAN 12 999999 100 10905 0.000 CDG FNS Charles_de_Gaulle TACAN May I do it ? Regards -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tacan frequencies for CLEM and CDG
gerard Hello, This is mainly a question to Vivian. I would like to add into the carrier_nav.dat.gz file two new carrier Tacan freq one for Clemeceau the other for the coming Charles de Gaulle 12 999999 100 10900 0.000 CLM FNS Clemenceau TACAN 12 999999 100 10905 0.000 CDG FNS Charles_de_Gaulle TACAN May I do it ? Regards Yes, go ahead, and let us know which channels you have assigned Vivian - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Tacan frequencies for CLEM and CDG
On mercredi 08 octobre 2008, Vivian Meazza wrote: gerard Hello, This is mainly a question to Vivian. I would like to add into the carrier_nav.dat.gz file two new carrier Tacan freq one for Clemeceau the other for the coming Charles de Gaulle 12 999999 100 10900 0.000 CLM FNS Clemenceau TACAN 12 999999 100 10905 0.000 CDG FNS Charles_de_Gaulle TACAN May I do it ? Regards Yes, go ahead, and let us know which channels you have assigned Vivian Thanks, Because we have the existing 12 999999 100 10890 0.000 FCH FNS Foch TACAN with channel 026X I did the following 12 999999 100 10895 0.000 CLM FNS Clemenceau which is channel 026Y 12 999999 100 10900 0.000 CDG FNS Charles_de_Gaulle which is channel 027X Cheers -- Gérard http://pagesperso-orange.fr/GRTux/ J'ai décidé d'être heureux parce que c'est bon pour la santé. Voltaire - This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Moblin Your Move Developer's challenge Build the coolest Linux based applications with Moblin SDK win great prizes Grand prize is a trip for two to an Open Source event anywhere in the world http://moblin-contest.org/redirect.php?banner_id=100url=/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan
Josh What property can I increment to change the channel on the TACAN? I have a knob on a TACAN instrument that is supposed to either inc/dec the channel, or the x/y selector, depending on the position of another switch. I could do this by introducing another property and some nasal to translate between it and the three existing numeric properties, but this seems like a bit of a kludge. You need to set these properties for the individual channels: /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[1] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[2] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[3} /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[4] Note that channel 1 is [1], not [0] as you might have guessed. Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan
Vivian Meazza wrote: Josh What property can I increment to change the channel on the TACAN? I have a knob on a TACAN instrument that is supposed to either inc/dec the channel, or the x/y selector, depending on the position of another switch. I could do this by introducing another property and some nasal to translate between it and the three existing numeric properties, but this seems like a bit of a kludge. You need to set these properties for the individual channels: /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[1] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[2] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[3} /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[4] Note that channel 1 is [1], not [0] as you might have guessed. Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel Yeah, but then I have to write nasal code. If the channel is 099X, there is nothing that I can increment to get the right answer. I need to test each digit and decide to increment, or zero and carry. It just seems a little odd, I would have expected one integer to hold the numbers, and one string to hold the X/Y part. Perhaps I will write some nasal code to live in controls.nas that translates between a single number in selected-channel[0] and 1-3. That way the existing behavior will be preserved, and there will also be a number that can be incremented or decremented between 0 and 126. Josh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan
Josh Babcock wrote Vivian Meazza wrote: Josh What property can I increment to change the channel on the TACAN? I have a knob on a TACAN instrument that is supposed to either inc/dec the channel, or the x/y selector, depending on the position of another switch. I could do this by introducing another property and some nasal to translate between it and the three existing numeric properties, but this seems like a bit of a kludge. You need to set these properties for the individual channels: /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[1] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[2] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[3} /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[4] Note that channel 1 is [1], not [0] as you might have guessed. Vivian Yeah, but then I have to write nasal code. If the channel is 099X, there is nothing that I can increment to get the right answer. I need to test each digit and decide to increment, or zero and carry. It just seems a little odd, I would have expected one integer to hold the numbers, and one string to hold the X/Y part. Perhaps I will write some nasal code to live in controls.nas that translates between a single number in selected-channel[0] and 1-3. That way the existing behavior will be preserved, and there will also be a number that can be incremented or decremented between 0 and 126. It was designed to work with the menu item in which each column is set independently, and we need a string with which to search the TACAN channel/ frequency pairing database. But I'm not sure what you are trying to. Others have created a TACAN control panel, so there must be a way to do it. If you would explain in a bit more detail ... Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] tacan
Vivian Meazza wrote: Josh Babcock wrote Vivian Meazza wrote: Josh What property can I increment to change the channel on the TACAN? I have a knob on a TACAN instrument that is supposed to either inc/dec the channel, or the x/y selector, depending on the position of another switch. I could do this by introducing another property and some nasal to translate between it and the three existing numeric properties, but this seems like a bit of a kludge. You need to set these properties for the individual channels: /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[1] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[2] /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[3} /instrumentation/tacan/frequencies/selected-channel[4] Note that channel 1 is [1], not [0] as you might have guessed. Vivian Yeah, but then I have to write nasal code. If the channel is 099X, there is nothing that I can increment to get the right answer. I need to test each digit and decide to increment, or zero and carry. It just seems a little odd, I would have expected one integer to hold the numbers, and one string to hold the X/Y part. Perhaps I will write some nasal code to live in controls.nas that translates between a single number in selected-channel[0] and 1-3. That way the existing behavior will be preserved, and there will also be a number that can be incremented or decremented between 0 and 126. It was designed to work with the menu item in which each column is set independently, and we need a string with which to search the TACAN channel/ frequency pairing database. But I'm not sure what you are trying to. Others have created a TACAN control panel, so there must be a way to do it. If you would explain in a bit more detail ... Vivian ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel I'm modeling a TACAN instrument that has a dial which can be used to increment/decrement the channel number. I want to set up hotspots for that dial. One increments the channel number, one decrements it. Another dial selects another mode where the first dial switches between X and Y channels. http://jrbabcock.home.comcast.net/flightgear/ch53e/tacan.jpg I'm not saying that I can't do it, I'm just saying that I can't do it without implementing some Nasal. It just seems that changing a channel in this manner is a little to basic of a task for plane designers to have to resort to Nasal for. I think I will just make the Nasal code for controls.nas and bind it to all the channel props with a listener. The other option is to create a controls.changeTacanChannel() that has the logic to be able to increment the channel and set the individual channel digit properties. Now that I think about it, the latter sounds like a better way to do things, as it does not require listeners or duplication of data in extra properties. Josh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] tacan
What property can I increment to change the channel on the TACAN? I have a knob on a TACAN instrument that is supposed to either inc/dec the channel, or the x/y selector, depending on the position of another switch. I could do this by introducing another property and some nasal to translate between it and the three existing numeric properties, but this seems like a bit of a kludge. Josh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] TACAN Electrical Issue
I started playing with TACAN today. While it is enabled in Aircraft/Generic/generic-systems.xml it is not energized in Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml and therefore only works with custom electrical files. Suggested patch: --- data/Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml2005-12-12 21:31:53.0 -0700 +++ /usr/share/games/FlightGear/Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml 2006-02-03 01:12:42.0 -0700 @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ prop/systems/electrical/outputs/transponder/prop prop/systems/electrical/outputs/autopilot/prop prop/systems/electrical/outputs/adf/prop +prop/systems/electrical/outputs/tacan/prop /bus --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
RE: [Flightgear-devel] TACAN Electrical Issue
Ron Jensen I started playing with TACAN today. While it is enabled in Aircraft/Generic/generic-systems.xml it is not energized in Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml and therefore only works with custom electrical files. Suggested patch: --- data/Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml2005-12-12 21:31:53.0 -0700 +++ /usr/share/games/FlightGear/Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml 2006-02-03 01:12:42.0 -0700 @@ -53,6 +53,7 @@ prop/systems/electrical/outputs/transponder/prop prop/systems/electrical/outputs/autopilot/prop prop/systems/electrical/outputs/adf/prop +prop/systems/electrical/outputs/tacan/prop /bus This is quite deliberate. TACAN is not a generic instrument, and therefore you need to add it specifically to the configuration of your aircraft. Vivian --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] TACAN Electrical Issue
Ron Jensen wrote: I started playing with TACAN today. While it is enabled in Aircraft/Generic/generic-systems.xml it is not energized in Aircraft/Generic/generic-electrical.xml and therefore only works with custom electrical files. Thanks for the patch, it's committed. Erik -- http://www.ehtw.info (Dutch)Future of Enschede Airport Twente http://www.ehofman.com/fgfs FlightGear Flight Simulator http://www.cafepress.com/fgfs_flightsim FlightGear Art --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnkkid=103432bid=230486dat=121642 ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
