[Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
Hi All, I received this today. It is a commercial venture, so I don't feel inclined to contribute directly. Has anyone else been contacted by them? This bit keep between us of course made me feel like a child being groomed for nefarious reasons. Cheers, Vic Hi Vic, We know it might be a long shot, but figured why not at least reach out. Please keep between us of course, but would you ever have an interest in supporting/contributing some of your models to this historical project designed to replicate the experiences of a decorated fighter pilot? We have partnered with other individuals from the FlightGear community already and it has been a great experience. Let me know your thoughts when you can and you can read more about the project at... Read more here: www.whenthunderrolled.com Thanks for your time and consideration. Regards, Steve-- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
Do you want to contribute your free models to our commercial product? Seems there *is* a reason for my NCGC* license after all... *(Non-commercial use only; give credit where due) *Shakes head* B. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:04:48 +0200, Björn wrote in message cadxdtfju8rs3btbhrksc_x5psh_vwayhw4vq+y4scao-umm...@mail.gmail.com: Do you want to contribute your free models to our commercial product? ..they ask nicely, and it _sounds_ (to me) like they want to dual-license their commercial product. ..in my opinion, they should launch their product the way Red Hat launched their distro business in the 1990ies, a set of binaries for money, and the source for free, and both under the GPL. :o) Seems there *is* a reason for my NCGC* license after all... *(Non-commercial use only; give credit where due) ..your NCGC license is not compatible with the GPL, because of your 2 additional requirements. You can of course dual-license your own work as you see fit. *Shakes head* ..no conflict with the GPL. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
For whatever it's worth, my reading of their site suggested that they are basing their commercial product off some other software/simulation engine and are looking for content. If they are proceeding with permission of the content authors and in compliance with licensing then I wish them all the best. And I think it's worth noting that these guys are generally creating content and scenarios; they are building stuff; adding to what's already there and rolling in the experience of a real combat pilot. This is a ton of time and effort (they aren't simply copying someone else's work and trying to spam the internet with it like some of our less favorite friends are known to do.) Curt. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:04:48 +0200, Björn wrote in message cadxdtfju8rs3btbhrksc_x5psh_vwayhw4vq+y4scao-umm...@mail.gmail.com: Do you want to contribute your free models to our commercial product? ..they ask nicely, and it _sounds_ (to me) like they want to dual-license their commercial product. ..in my opinion, they should launch their product the way Red Hat launched their distro business in the 1990ies, a set of binaries for money, and the source for free, and both under the GPL. :o) Seems there *is* a reason for my NCGC* license after all... *(Non-commercial use only; give credit where due) ..your NCGC license is not compatible with the GPL, because of your 2 additional requirements. You can of course dual-license your own work as you see fit. *Shakes head* ..no conflict with the GPL. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://gallinazo.flightgear.org -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 10:21:33 -0500, Curtis wrote in message cahtsj_dni0cdegbx0stxwjwh9j5vfxf2aderk5jpde40n1s...@mail.gmail.com: For whatever it's worth, my reading of their site suggested that they are basing their commercial product off some other software/simulation engine and are looking for content. If they are proceeding with permission of the content authors and in compliance with licensing then I wish them all the best. And I think it's worth noting that these guys are generally creating content and scenarios; they are building stuff; adding to what's already there and rolling in the experience of a real combat pilot. This is a ton of time and effort (they aren't simply copying someone else's work and trying to spam the internet with it like some of our less favorite friends are known to do.) Curt. On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:09 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:04:48 +0200, Björn wrote in message cadxdtfju8rs3btbhrksc_x5psh_vwayhw4vq+y4scao-umm...@mail.gmail.com: Do you want to contribute your free models to our commercial product? ..they ask nicely, and it _sounds_ (to me) like they want to dual-license their commercial product. ..I got too triggerhappy here, I _meant_ to say: they ask nicely, and it _sounds_ (to me) like they want to dual-license your code, art etc GPL work, for use in their commercial product. ..in my opinion, they should launch their product the way Red Hat launched their distro business in the 1990ies, a set of binaries for money, and the source for free, and both under the GPL. :o) Seems there *is* a reason for my NCGC* license after all... *(Non-commercial use only; give credit where due) ..your NCGC license is not compatible with the GPL, because of your 2 additional requirements. You can of course dual-license your own work as you see fit. *Shakes head* ..no conflict with the GPL. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] www.whenthunderrolled.com
Le 19/06/2012 11:49, Vic Marriott a écrit : Hi All, I received this today. It is a commercial venture, so I don't feel inclined to contribute directly. Has anyone else been contacted by them? Yes, I think so. I've been contacted privately around October 2010 by Steve (Swanbast ?) who was very kindly asking permission to use some of my models suitable for Vietnam war era. As all the models were already licensed under the GPL and also as Steve was asking with a lot of attention, I said him okay for the models I had 100% authorship (namely the A-6 Intruder and a few hangars). I'm happy to see that his project is going well along. Alexis -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
