RE: [Flightgear-users] Frames/Second and Hardware survey

2005-11-30 Thread Richard Bytheway
snip 
 Having a well defined test case (or set of test cases ... day 
 vs. night, 3d clouds, shadows) is definitely important to 
 having some sort of validity to the results.  Benchmarking 
 complex computer applications is not a fixed science.  There 
 are just way too many variables.  Assuming we haven't scared 
 off Paul from the task, my suggestion is to try to strike a 
 balance between enough simplicity to make the task managable, 
 and enough complexity to make the results useful.  The 
 results don't have to be perfect to be useful.
 
 Perhaps there could be an optional 'notes' field for a 
 variety of special case comments to handle some of the 
 nuances that are outside the core test case(s).
 
 Here we could make note if a particular video chipset or card 
 has abysmal performance, or if some combination of things 
 just don't work.  
 That would be a useful tool when/if people shop for new hardware.
 
 Curt.
snip 

I don't know if the FlightGear Live-CD
(http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2004-January/0068
94.html) is still in existance, or being maintained, but this would be
an ideal way of benchmarking different hardware. Obviously it isn't
going to give you information about Windows/Linux changes.

My memory tells me that someone started to collect performance data
based on one of the Live-CD versions, but I cannot find it in the
archives, and I know that my memory plays tricks on me...

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools

2005-11-24 Thread Richard Bytheway
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 dene maxwell
 Sent: 24 November 2005 05:38
 To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Windows FGv9.9 and FGTools
 
 OK...I'll ask the obvious question that most newbies are 
 probably afraid to ask
 
 under windowsm how do we run CVS files?
 
 I take it that this involves a cvs-win32 compliler, what and 
 where do we need to get?
 
 Dene
 
 

http://www.cygwin.com

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] OpenGL/Windows Knoppix

2005-10-24 Thread Richard Bytheway
 Hello Arnt:

 Thanks for following up for me. I am becoming to understand what this
all about now, but need to ensure I fully understand what you have said.

 I can run FG using OpenGL on a windows laptop, providing I run the
graphics card from a Knoppix CD.
  
 To do this, do I download software and save it on a CD myself, or, do
I have to buy the CD? I ask this as I have gone to the link of Knoppix
you gave me and there are Icons, one of which is a link to Mirrors to
download something. Further down the page you have the KNOPPIX4.0.2 DVD
+ CD Released as the heading and I have seen that if one has the
bandwidth (I have ADSL) you can download it. Does this have to be
downloaded on to a CD/DVD? Is this the release of a few days ago?

 After this I am not sure where to go, as you mention to boot from the
CD, via the BIOS!!!.

 If you can direct me on this, hopefully I can get this in action very
soon. It is nice to know that the computers will not be affected, as
they undertake important work, I work on a very limited budget, prior to
my retirement this year.

 Thank Again And With Kind Regards

 Martin

Knoppix will let you test whether the graphics card in the laptop will
work with OpenGL and Flightgear. Unfortunately, it will not fix it in
any way that makes it work better in Windows.

That said, yes, you can download Knoppix yourself, you do not have to
buy the CD. Any recent release will probably tell you what you need to
know. There used to be a Flightgear specific bootable CD, but I don't
think it has been kept up to date recently (apologies if it has, please
speak up if you know different).

I use an old version (4) of EasyCD to burn ISO images when in Windows,
because it works. I suppose that Nero can do it as well but I have never
tried. Whatever software you use, make sure that you burn the ISO file
as an image file, and don't just put it on the CD as a regular file. If
you say what CD burning software you use, I am sure that someone on the
list will know how to make it work properly.

You may need to change a setting in the BIOS to make the PC try to boot
from the CD before the HD, otherwise you will still get Windows. This is
harmless, because if there is no CD it tries the HD next. It may already
be set because Windows 2K and XP come on bootable CDs for easy
installation.

Hope that helps,

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RE: [Flightgear-users] [OT] Aircraft Drawing Package

2005-08-17 Thread Richard Bytheway
I thought of something like this for debugging Yasim models a couple of years 
back 
(http://mail.flightgear.org/pipermail/flightgear-users/2002-August/001511.html),
 but never got anything put together.

If this works in 3D, it could be used to generate simple 3D models for external 
views in FG. So it is not offtopic at all!

Richard


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Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] [OT] Aircraft Drawing Package


I've thought about this occasionally (how many of my posts start like that?). I 
wonder if there's anything that could do the reverse of that? Take an aircraft 
drawing (with labeled parts) and turn it into a DATCOM+ file?

Jon

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Subject: [Flightgear-users] [OT] Aircraft Drawing Package


Off Topic - Sorry if I am wasting your time

I am looking for a graphics package to draw aircraft from my DATCOM+ 
configuration files. In that file, I have data available such as airfoil 
sections, wing span, fuselage cross-sections, horizontal and vertical tail 
locations, engine locations, etc.

I'm not expecting highly detailed drawing, but merely rough pictures of what 
the aircraft looks like. I think it would help uncover problems in the 
configuration file. The input would be via a text file, which I can tailor to 
whatever is needed. I don't want to do any interaction with it (at least not 
yet).

I fully expect to have to do something from scratch, but I thought I would ask 
first, to see if anyone has anything that they can suggest.


Thanks,
Bill



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RE: [Flightgear-users] (OT) Google map fun

2005-08-01 Thread Richard Bytheway
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Culp
 Sent: 01 August 2005 14:20
 To: FlightGear user discussions
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] (OT) Google map fun
 
 
 Try this:
 
 Go to http://maps.google.com
 
 Go to Beale Air Force Base (about 50km North of Sacramento, 
 California)
 
 Switch to satellite mode
 
 Look at what's taking off on runway 15
 
 
 
 
 Dave
 

39°07'35.55N 121°25'58.68W for those who struggle to find Beal AFB

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] Scenery Help

2005-06-03 Thread Richard Bytheway

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Sent: 01 June 2005 00:02
snip
  
I'm using the default scenery directories, and I did unpack the file to the 
terrain DIR.  Like I said, when I do specify KIND airport, It put's me in the 
middle of an ocean.  What I failed to mention was; if I fly east (KIND is on 
the city's west side outside the I-465 beltway, I will eventually fly over 
terrain.  

snip

Are you certain that you have the right tile of Scenery? The scenery filename 
is based on the south west corner (i believe - someone shout if I am wrong). If 
you find Scenery by fliying east, then maybe you need to download the Scenery 
tile to the west of the one you have already got.

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] installation problem

2005-05-11 Thread Richard Bytheway
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of anand
 Sent: 11 May 2005 05:16
 To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] installation problem
 
 
 hi.
 i m tryingto install fg on my windows system.
 i m using cygwin 2.249 whose all options i m installing.
 i m trying with fg9.4(plib1.8.2,simgear0.3.5,fg9.4)
 installation doesnt give me any error.
 i install cygwin in my c drive,
 then i put the source in cygwin/usr/local/source.
 and then i put the base in usr/local/flightgear.
 and then i copy the batch file runfgfs from one of my friends and change the 
 path in it.
 also i give the prefix=/usr/local/Flightgear during flightgear installation.
 now the problem is, when i try to run it it gives me an error
  application  failed to initialize properly(0xc142). click ok to 
 terminate the application.
 
 has any one seen such error.
 plz reply.
 anand.

If you are using the Windows Binary package, you do not need to run it in 
Cygwin, use a DOS (or Command) window instead.
If you are starting with the source code, you need to compile it, Cygwin is one 
option, Visual Studio is another.

Which are you trying to do?

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display

2005-02-23 Thread Richard Bytheway
If you are using a nVidia card on Windows, then the latest drivers support 
rotation of the screen at the driver level. The Linux driver may also do this, 
and I would hope that ATI would provide similar functionality.

Richard

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 Sorton
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 To: flightgear-users@flightgear.org
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] Rotating the Display
 
 
 Hi All,
 
 Is there a way to rotate the display 90 degrees?  My 
 monitor projects an
 image 90.  I've played with 
 /sim/current-view/roll-offset-deg.  It does rotate
 the display, but something isn't quite right.  All is OK if 
 the plane is
 sitting still, but once you start to move, the view changes.
 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,
 
 Eric
 
 


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RE: [Flightgear-users] Installing Linux for a better FGFS

2005-02-10 Thread Richard Bytheway
 
  Arnt, is it possible to install GNU/Linux along side Windows2000?
   I have plenty of HD space so as long as i am able to install
   it alongside win2k i will do that, otherwise i cant afford to loose
   windows 2000 (have no idea to configure a linux machine onto the
   university network that im on, and compatibility with various
   software i need to use).
 
 Of course you can. There are a lot of distribution available, choose 
 something easy for a first try. FedoraCore is an example, Debian, 
 Slackware, Mandrake are there just for you to install one :-)
 
 First you have to provide free space for Linux. Use a Partition tool 
 like PartitionMagic and shrink the partition used by Windows to ... 
 let's say half the size of the entire harddisk.
 Then you install Linux in the free space; let him decide how 
 to create 
 the partitions need without erasing the one used by Windows2000.
 

If you are comfortable with the innards of a PC, and you have a little spare 
cash (or a friend with a spares box) consider getting a second hard disk to put 
Linux on, and switching between them (set the both to master and change the 
data cable from one to the other - with the power off of course). Whilst this 
is a pain to do, it does guarantee that you cannot damage your Windows 
installation during the time you play with Linux. Whilst most recent Linux 
distribution installers do a good job, it is still possible to wipe the entire 
hard disk if you choose the wrong option.

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] Atlas not producing maps correctly

2004-07-12 Thread Richard Bytheway
 -Original Message-
 From: adam
 Sent: 12 July 2004 2:22 pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] Atlas not producing maps correctly
 
 
 I'm using 0.92 scenery to produce maps, as per the link from 
 the website.
 Is this the correct set to be using for CVS FlightGear? When I produce
 maps from this, using Atlas, with:
 
 ./Map --fgroot=/mnt/bigone/bigone-temp/flightgear/data
 --atlas=/mnt/bigone/bigone-temp/flightgear/data/Maps --enable-airports
 --glutfonts --verbose
 
 I consistently (twice now) get this effect:
 
 http://www.monkeez.org/publicpics/atlas.png
 
 Am I doing something wrong? The north part of Hants, UK, 
 consistently is
 not drawn up despite me being able to fly out that way.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Adam
 
 
I have seen that effect when Map gets minimised or covered up while it is working.
Because it draws the map to the screen, and then takes a copy of the screen buffer, it 
needs to be on top, and uncovered while working.

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RE: [Flightgear-users] Atlas not producing maps correctly

2004-07-12 Thread Richard Bytheway
snip
 
 Ah, OK - I can understand that. However, I left this machine working
 over-night whilst producing the maps (ie. no-one was using 
 it). Would this
 be a screensaver issue? I would be surprised if it was, as 
 only certain
 parts of the map are consistently bad.
 
 Thanks
 
 Adam

It may be a screen saver issue. You could try with the screen saver turned off. 

You could also try the new scenery from 
ftp://ftp.sunsite.org.uk/sites/ftp.flightgear.org/flightgear-ftp/Scenery-0.9.5/ and 
see if that behaves any differently.

Richard


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RE: [Flightgear-users] windows error

2004-05-04 Thread Richard Bytheway
 vinny tattoli wrote:
  hey, i keep getting an error that says %1 is not a valid Win32
  application i have tryed most of the things suggested and none
  worked.
 
 It sounds like you have either a broken fgfs.exe or a broken batch
 file.  What happens when you run fgfs?  How (exactly, as typed or
 clicked) are you running the application?
 
 Andy

%1 is a bash construct, the Windows command shell equivalent is $1, so this suggests 
that either you are running a *nix shell script rather than a windows .bat file, or 
someone edited the .bat file and had their *nix head on in place of their Windows one.

Richard

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RE: [Flightgear-users] Steers to left on startup

2004-01-26 Thread Richard Bytheway
If you are using the mouse to fly, you need to hold the left button down as you wave 
the mouse left-right to make the rudder move. If you just wave the mouse left-right 
without the button pressed you are adjusting the ailerons.

To correct the low speed/high power/steep climb pull to the left, you need rudder.

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff Morrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 January 2004 3:55 am
 To: FlightGear user discussions
 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Steers to left on startup
 
 
 Its steering so hard to the left that I can't even compensate it by
 steering to the right...
 It must be something to do with my keyboard or mouse, even though they
 are both default devices in Fedora and are both working fine.
 
 On Fri, 2004-01-23 at 22:35, David Megginson wrote:
 
  If you're saying that if you add full power and don't 
 steer, the plane turns 
  left instead of rolling straight ahead, then there's no 
 bug.  That's just 
  how planes (or cars) work -- you have to steer them.
  
  If you're saying that the plane is turning so hard that you 
 need almost full 
  opposite rudder to control it, then there might be a problem.
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] Live-CD

2004-01-22 Thread Richard Bytheway
  
 ..to avoid shit happening, try append toram if you have more than 
 half a gig, otherwise use tohd=/dev/hda1 to copy the image to disk
 before booting up, to free yourself from cd speed etc hassles.
 
 ..next FG-Live boot is then knoppix fromhd=/dev/hda1, full 
 cheat code
 list is over at http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/CheatCodes .
 

Ummm, don't do tohd=/dev/hda1 if you have anything on the first partition of the 
first harddisk (C: in Windows parlance) that you want to keep though. toram is a good 
idea if you have plenty.

Richard

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RE: [Flightgear-users] Atlas

2003-10-01 Thread Richard Bytheway
OK, I have investigated this a little. All seems to be OK as far as I can see.

I grabbed new checkouts from CVS of plib, SimGear, Flightgear data (bas), and Atlas.

I built plib, then SimGear, then Atlas under cygwin (updated yesterday) on Win2K. I 
had to use LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib when configuring Atlas, but otherwise no special 
flags or options.

I downloaded the w130n50 scenery from the 0.9.2 set, and installed it in the FGFS data 
directory as normal.

I ran (all on one line):
 Map --size=128 --autoscale --fgroot=/home/richard.bytheway/FGFS/data 
--atlas=/home/richard.bytheway/FGFS/data/Atlas --smooth-color

which generated a series of 1°x1° maps of the SF region, and w130n50 region, which are 
the only two areas of scenery installed. I have put w130*.png up at 
http://sucs.org/~mocelet/fgfs/map/ for reference.

As your file showed, w130n50.png is nearly all blue. There must be something there 
otherwise it would not have made a png file (note that there is no w130n51.png file). 
The other png files have lots fo land in, as do the vast majority of the png files 
that I haven't copied to the web server.

I then thought that you might actually want one image file of the whole w130n50 
region. You can get this with the command line (tweak the numbers to suit your 
requirements):
Map --lat=55 --lon=-125 --size=512 --scale=1000 --smooth-color
which generates a file called map.png. I have put a copy of what I got at 
http://sucs.org/~mocelet/fgfs/map/map.png (340K).

If I run Map with --verbose, I get lots (and I mean lots) of unknown material 
warnings and some unknown format warnings, but the maps generate all the same.

Hope that helps.

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Seamus Thomas Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 30 September 2003 9:21 pm
 To: FlightGear user discussions
 Subject: RE: [Flightgear-users] Atlas
 
 
 Richard,
 
 If you can would you send me a png of w130n50 that you 
 generated and the 
 settings you passed in.  I have attached a 64x64 image that I 
 generated.  
 As you can see it is not what I was expecting.
 
 Seamus
 
 
 
 On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Richard Bytheway wrote:
 
  In my experience, Atlas, well Map, ignores the stg files. 
 It presumes that all files in the scenery directory need 
 processing, but the stg ones don't.
  
  FWIW, I usually generate maps at 512x512, and then scale 
 them down to 128x128 and 32x32 using convert or netpbm as 
 this is quicker (and results in better maps IMHO) than 
 running Map at three resolutions. 
  Put these three sizes in different directories Atlas512, 
 Atlas128 and Atlas032, have a symlink in 512 called lowres 
 that points to the 128 directory, and similar from 128 to 032.
  
  Richard
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Seamus Thomas Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 30 September 2003 1:05 am
   To: FlightGear user discussions
   Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] Atlas
   
   
   I have the latest CVS of Atlas running and I am but the 
 same problems 
   occur.  I edited the AtlasPalette to include the unknown 
   material.  This avoids the 
   unknown materal error but it does not result in new output on 
   the map.  I 
   still recieve many *.stg errors.  The other files remain 
   lightblue.  I am 
   particularly interested in Atlas displaying British Columbia 
   (w130n50) and 
   Washington State (w130n40) correctly.  Are there limitations 
   to Atlas and 
   Map that are preventing what I want done?
   
   Seamus
   
   On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Adam wrote:
   
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 14:30:33 -0600 (MDT)
Seamus Thomas Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I am trying to convert 3 Scenery directories to .png 
   files.  The first
 scenery is hells canyon and I recieve errors like:
 Warning: unknown material ShrubCover encountered.
 Warning: unknown material BarrenCover encountered.
 .Tile 
   /scratch/FlightGear/data//Scenery/w120n40/w120n40/991417.stg
 is of unknown format.
 
 The second scenery is w130n50 and only reports the 
 *.stg error:
 w130n50/w130n50:  ..Tile
 
   
 /scratch/FlightGear/data//Scenery/w130n50/w130n50/828211.stg is of
 unknown format.
 
 The resulting png files are a constant light blue colour.
 
 The Scenery w120n40 is converted correctly and looks 
   great when viewed
 with Atlas.
 
 Any suggestions?

Funnily enough, I'm just going through this process 
 myself (with Map
running in the background now). 

I tried 0.2.2 but got that error, so switched to CVS 
   version which so
far is converting scenery to png at a size of 64 fine. 

Hope that helps. 

Adam

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RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear FAQ

2003-09-30 Thread Richard Bytheway
In a windows command shell you must enclose each option in  marks, thus:
fgfs --airport-id=KBOS --aircraft=a4-yasim
becomes
fgfs  --airport-id=KBOS --aircraft=a4-yasim
Otherwise Windows splits the line at the = signs as well as the spaces and Flightgear 
cannot find anything.

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Cameron Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 30 September 2003 3:05 pm
 To: Mike Myers
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: FlightGear FAQ
 
 
 Mike,
 I've never used FlightGear in Windows (I'm a Linux nut).  Perhaps
 someone on the flightgear-users mailing can help.  I've carbon-copied
 the list.
 
 List members,
 Please carbon Mike in your replies.
 
 Thanks
 
 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Myers) [2003.09.29 13:34]:
  Hi !
  I'm trying to change some of the options on FlightGear and 
 I am having one
  heck of a time. I'm using Windows 98 se. I'm not real 
 computer savvy but I
  do ok. Any suggestion?
  
  Thanks!
  
  Mike Myers
  Boone, Iowa
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: Re: XML Parser error

2003-09-04 Thread Richard Bytheway
You need to enclose each option that uses the = sign in , otherwise the Windows 
command line parser messes up.
So use:
D:\FLIGHT~1\RUNFGFS.BAT --enable-auto-coordination --aircraft=747-yasim

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Raptor Pen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 03 September 2003 10:18 pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: Re: XML Parser error
 
 
  whenever i try to use a airport or aircraft other than the 
 defaults i get
  the error
 
   Fatal error: failed to open file
   at KORD
   received from SimGear XML Parser
 
 
 What does your command line look like?
 
 Dave
 
 i dont know whether you mean input or output, but here's what 
 im inputting:
 D:\FLIGHT~1\RUNFGFS.BAT --enable-auto-coordination 
 --aircraft=747-yasim
 
 here's the output
 
 Option '--aircraft' needs a parameter
 Reading command-line property file 747-yasim
 Fatal error: failed to open file
  at 747-yasim
  received from SimGear XML Parser
 
 I hope that's clearer (and this happens with both aircrafts 
 and ports, i did an aircraft for this example because i did 
 an airport last time).
 
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] stuck with metakit installation..

2003-02-20 Thread Richard Bytheway
You need to set the LDFLAGS environment variable when ./configuring SimGear (and 
FlightGear for that matter).

Rather than running:
./configure 
run:
LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib ./configure

This should get things working for you.

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: g kumaresan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 20 February 2003 8:02 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] stuck with metakit installation..
 
 
  hi,
 
  i'm new to this FLIGHT GEAR environment.
  i'm working under pIII/win98/Cygwin environment.
  
  i'v downloaded ..
  
  flightgear 0.9.1
  simgear 0.3.1
  plib 1.6.0
  metakit 2.4.3-3
  zlib 1.1.4
  
  
 when i'm trying to install simgear, i'm getting errors
  saying that i've not installed metakit. but i've
  installed both zilb and metakit (in the place
  according to the FLIGHT GEAR installation manual).
 i'm
  little suspicious about the path where to install
  metakit.
  
  zlib is in
 usr/local/source/simgear0.3.1/src-libs/zlib
  matakit is in
  usr/local/source/simgear0.3.1/src-libs/metakit as
  given in the instruction manual
  
  In the FLIGHT GEAR manual it is given as metakit
  should be configured only at zlib-X.X.X/builds (!)
 but
  i could not find that path in zlib,(but metaktit has
  builds) so i was struck with how to run ./configre.
  
  In another readme file that came along with metakit
  tar file i came across how to install matakit.
  
  ===
  ../unix/configure
  make
  make test  % for installing core lib
  make install  % for installing script extensions.
  ===
  
  
  it worked.
  it was installed(i assumed that).
  
  but when installing simgear it spitted a error saying
  that metakit was not installed.
  i've given below the last 15 lines of error when i
  tried to configure simgear-0.3.1
  
  =
  checking for socket in -lsocket... no
  checking for XCreateWindow in -lX11... no
  checking for XShmCreateImage in -lXext... no
  checking for XGetExtensionVersion in -lXi... no
  checking for IceOpenConnection in -lICE... no
  checking for SmcOpenConnection in -lSM... no
  checking for XtMalloc in -lXt... no
  checking for XmuLookupStandardColormap in -lXmu... no
  Win32 specific hacks...
  Building with glut32.dll, glu32.dll, and opengl32.dll
  Will link apps with -lpthread -lm  -lglut32 -lglu32
  -lopengl32 -luser32 -lgdi32
  checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... g++ -E
  checking plib/ul.h usability... yes
  checking plib/ul.h presence... yes
  checking for plib/ul.h... yes
  checking for plib 1.6.0 or newer... yes
  checking mk4.h usability... no
  checking mk4.h presence... no
  checking for mk4.h... no
  
  Metakit not found, you will need to install this
  first.
  Please read the README.metakit for more information
  
  
  
  in the last line it says that the file mk4.h was not
  found. but i searched it and found it in 
  metakit-2.4.3\include directory.
  
  
  can anyone help me.
  
 if possible please give me the exact path location
 where metakit,zlib,plib has to be installed.
  
  thanx in advance
  kumar
 
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] getting Atlas going

2002-10-22 Thread Richard Bytheway
Run ./autogen.sh first if you have the CVS version.

Richard

 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Christiansen [mailto:christiansen_j;hotmail.com]
 Sent: 22 October 2002 5:41 am
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] getting Atlas going
 
 
 
 Hi.  I can't get to first base with the cvs.
 
 Do I just use:
 
 ./configure ?
 
 Or do I need to pass statements at ./configure??
 
 Any help is appreciated.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 Jim
 
 
 
 
 
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 Subject: Re: [Flightgear-users] getting Atlas going
 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 00:11:23 -0400
 
 On Monday 21 October 2002 11:13 pm, Jim Christiansen wrote:
   Hello Folks,
  
   Has anyone managed to get the Atlas program going for 
 Flightgear?  I 
 have
   tried for some time but have not been able to, yet.  I've 
 tried on RH7.3
   and now on RH8.0.
 
 Getting it built or getting the two programs communicating?
 You have to pass fg an option to send data and you need to pass
 Atlas an option defining the ip and port to look at.
 
 fgfs --atlas=socket,out,0.5,192.168.1.199,5600,udp
 
 Would allow connections from ip address 192.168.1.199
 Change the ip address accordingly. It should be the ip of the
 machine atlas is running on. If you are running it on the 
 same machine as 
 fgfs
 use 127.0.0.1
 
 
 
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RE: [Flightgear-users] Re: Slow framerate near Burbank (real)

2002-04-22 Thread Richard Bytheway

The voodoo 3 will limit you soonish though. I have run a GeForce2MX and a Voodoo3 in 
the same machine (600MHz Celeron, Win98, Cygwin), and there was a factor of 2-3 
difference in the frame rate (10-20 for the Voodoo3, 20-60 for the 2MX).

Richard

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 Sent: 22 April 2002 4:17 pm
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [Flightgear-users] Re: Slow framerate near Burbank (real)
 
 
 * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 22 April 2002 14:16:
  One thing you could try (to see if the problem is too much 
 scenery) is
  to reduce your visibility when your frame rate drops and see if that
  perks things back up.  z and Z change the visibility on the fly.
 
 No, that doesn't help. I just started from KBUR and flew towards the
 mountains and my frame rate dropped from 5 to 0.3. The logs 
 show hundreds
 of
 WARNING: DList stack overflow!
 
 
 BTW: Even without that bug fgfs' performance dropped 
 dramatically during
 the last 4 weeks. I guess that the recommended CPU frequency 
 must now be at
 500 MHz or more. Even turning off the clouds and reducing the 
 visibility
 hardly makes KSFO flyable now. That worked more or less 
 before. Meanwhile
 I have to fly at simpler regions ... and to think about 
 buying a faster
 computer. The Voodoo3 is not the problem---the 266MHz CPU is.  :-(
 
 m.
 
 
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