Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
I've got hostas in full sun Don't know if it's right or not, but they're growing. ME Melissa McCarthy Hours: whimsical or by appointment Adult, maybe; grown-up, never! [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
Thanks carol ^,,^ --- On Mon, 21 May 2001, Carol Starr wrote: hi brad, according to my garden book hostas are all shade lovers. bye, carol :) --- Try and be a sheet of paper with nothing on it. Be a spot of ground where nothing is growing, Rumi where something might be planted, Sufi Poet and Mystic a seed, possibly, from the Absolute.1202 - 1273
FLUXLIST: [im] From the Multitudes of Europe Rising Up Against the Empire(fwd)
From the Multitudes of Europe, Rising Up Against the Empire and Marching on Genoa (19-20 July 2001) We are new, and yet we are the same as always. We are ancient to the future, an army of disobedience. For centuries we have marched, armed with stories as weapons, "dignity" emblazoned across our ensigns.In the name of dignity we fight those who play the lords and masters of people and meadows, forests and waters. Those who rule arbitrarily, impose the order of the Empire and impoverish the communities. We are the peasants of the _Jacquerie_. Our villages were plundered by the mercenaries of the Hundred Years War and the nobles made us starve. In the Year of Our Lord 1358 we took up arms, destroyed their castles and took the ill-gotten back. Some of us were captured and decapitated, blood flowed from our noses, but we were on the march and we would not stop again. We are the _ciompi_ of Florence, the workers of factories and the minor arts. In the Year of Our Lord 1378 a carder led us to rebellion. We took over the city council and reformed the statute of arts and professions. The lords escaped to the countryside and organized the siege of the town. After two years they defeated us and restored the oligarchy, but nothing could stop the contagious spirit of our example. We are the peasants of England who battled against the nobles to get rid of tolls and excises. In the Year of Our Lord 1381 we heard the preaching of John Ball: "When Adam dalf and Eve span / Who was then a gentilman?". We set off from Essex and Kent with pruning hooks and pitchforks. We occupied London and set buildings on fire. We sacked the palace of the Arch-bishop and opened the doors of jails. By the King's appointment many of us went to the gallows, but things had been changed forever. We are the _Hussites_. We are the _Taborites_. We are the Bohemian labourers and craftsmen who rebelled against the Pope, the King and the Emperor after Ian Hus was burnt at the stake. In the Year of Our Lord 1419 we assaulted the town hall of Prague and threw the burgomaster and the councillors out the window. King Wenceslaus died of a heartache. The powerful of Europe waged war on us, and so we called the Czech people to arms. We drove back all invasions, counterattacked and entered Austria, Hungary, Brandenburg, Saxony, Franconia and the Palatine. The heart of a continent was in our hands. We abolished servitude and the tithes. We were defeated after thirty years of war and crusades. We are the thirty-four thousand men that answered the call of Hans the Piper. In the Year of Our Lord 1476 the Madonna of Niklashausen appeared to Hans and said: "There shall be neither kings nor princes, neither papacy nor priesthood, neither taxes nor tithes. Meadows, forests and waters shall belong to all people. Every one shall be a brother to each other, possessing no more than his neighbour". We arrived on the day of St. Margaret, a candle in one hand and a spear in the other. The Holy Virgin would tell us what to do. The knights of the Bishop captured Hans, then they attacked and defeated us. Hans burned at the stake, but the words of the Virgin did not. We are the String Shoe, the labourers and peasants of Alsace. In the Year of Our Lord 1493 we conspired to kill the usurers and cancel all debts, confiscate the treasuries of the monasteries, reduce the priests' incomes, abolish oral confession and establish local courts elected by the communities. On Easter Sunday we attacked the stronghold of Schlettstadt. We were defeated. Many of us were arrested and put on the rack, to be quartered or decapitated. Many were crippled by having their hands and fingers chopped off, and were driven out of the country. Yet those who kept marching spread the String Shoe throughout Germany. After years of repression and re-organization, the String Shoe rose up in Freiburg in the Year of Our Lord 1513. The March went on, and the String Shoe has never stopped. We are Poor Konrad, the peasants of Suabia that rebelled against the taxes on wine, meat and bread, in the Year of Our Lord 1514. We were five thousand and threatened to conquer Schorndorf, in the valley of Rems. Duke Ulrich promised he would abolish the new taxes and examine the peasants' complaints. He was only seeking to keep us quiet and gain time. The revolt spread all over Suabia. Our delegates were admitted to the diet in Stuttgart. It was decided to depose and punish three of the hated councillors of the Duke, to add to the Duke a council of four knights, four burghers and four peasants, and to confiscate the monasteries and the endowments in favour of the State treasury. Ulrich convened another diet in Tuebingen, and his neighbours helped him gather troops. It was not easy to take the valley of Rems by force: Ulrich besieged and starved Poor Konrad on the mountain of Koppel, then he plundered the villages. Sixteen hundred peasants were captured, sixteen of them decapitated, and the rest received heavy fines.
FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #698
Can anyone tell me what this is --many thanks for any kind of info, background, etc. James DenBoer -- A white folder containing: Participations to the Festival of Non Art -- Anti Art -- Truth Art -- How to Change Art and Mankind --That Took Place from the 1st to the 15th of June 1969, in the World. (Festival Non Art -- Anti Art -- La Verite est Art -- Comment Changer L'Art et L'Homme: Partout dans le mond, du Ier au 15 Juin 1969). Fluxus, Nice 1963. Organized by Ben Vautier. Set number 131 of 500 Exemplaires Numerotes Sous Forme de Feuilles 21x27 Dans Un Dossier Blanc. All participants in the festival will have one page of the review at their disposal. Posters will be published containing a big empty space. They will be given to participants, 50 copies each, to fill up empty space and communicate what they feel like communicating in their surroundings. . . Are invited Fluxus: Zaj, Richard C., H. Flynt, Chiari, Mosset, Ken Friedman, A. Jouffroy, W. de Maria, J. J. Lebel, E. Anderson, Guinochet Francois, Diter Rot, Ray Johnson, George Brecht, Buren, J. L. Brau, Gosewitz, Guillamon, Filliou, Vostell, Spoerri, B. Duval, B. Vautier, Duchamp, Beuys, Maciunas, G. Debord, Pomereulles, D. Palazolli, A. Koepke, G. Metzger, U. Nespolo, R. Page, Nanni, S. Oldenbourg, Tobas, Viallat, Dietmann, Pinoncelli, etc . . as well as five names picked a random . . . the festival shall be financed by anonymous and free participations. . . Many are those doubtless who think, that a non art festival is not necessary. That it is better to do nothing, that choosing people is not Non Art, that a Festival can only be another artistic megalomaniac enterprise, may be they are right. But why not permit such communications? The White Dossier contains: a colophon page, a map of the world with festival announcement, 2 pages of description in English and in French, 4 pages listing contributions in English and in French in reproduced handwriting of (presumably) Ben Vautier, a Fluxus photo of violin makers in Nice, a photo of a street in Nice, a reproduced front cover of L'Espoir newspaper Nice, and other separate pages with the festival contributions of Nagasawa, William Louis Sorensen, 3 anonymous poems, Deligand, Olivier Mosset, Ray Johnson, Marc Brusse, Eva Cunegonde, Roland Flexner, Peter Kuttner, Annie Ben Vautier, Buren, Fremiot, Diter Rot, Monique Bentin, Le Jeune equipe de Grenoble, Guiseppe Chiari, Bresil, J.M. G. Le Clezio, George Brecht, Ken Freidman, the Guinochet brothers, Franco Ravedonne, Walter Marchetti, Juan Hidalgo, Le Peonec, Kasper Koenig, a false summons to a false General Assembly of the Salon de Mai 1969, Henry Flynt (2 items), Moineau, Ken Freidman, Chiari , Lourdes Castro, A-gui-gui, Robert Filliou, Tobas, Groupe Agentzia, Jochen Gerz, Ben Vautier, Marcel Alocco, Serge Oldenbourg, Knud Pedersen, Francis Merino, Eric Andeersson, Groupe de Piacneza, Groupe de Viallet a Limoges, Micini, Pierluigi Albertoni, Mosset, anonymous contribution from Tokyo, Roland Flexner again, Raoul Hausmann, Guillaume de Lyon, Groupe a Tours, le Group Swiz, Vautier again, Richard C., Groupe Lidl de Dusseldorf, Luzerne, Bruno Duval -- that is, some 65 or more reproduced items of art or documentation. James DenBoer Sacramento CA
FLUXLIST: Fwd: Neo-Dada site---
http://www.laladada.com/ -- carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FLUXLIST: RE: FLUXLIST-digest V1 #698
Fluxlisters the time is NOW! UNITE Read this article and be AWAKENED
and
ENLIGHTENED! Or, be put to sleep! (But in what sense? THe literal or the
euthanistic?) Too long have we lingered in the pea-brain, or pee-brain,
and
WE SHOULD NOT!!
http://www.salon.com/books/feature/2001/05/16/manifestos/index.html
The dreaded Mary Anne Caws of the U of Iowa Dada/Surrealism academic
windbag
journal which since late 70's consistently took the excitement and life out
of Dada by making it the territory of academics for bloodless analysts...
the new book sounds great but when I saw her name it was like h...
maybe not. Actually, as a source of info it was sometimes useful but for
the most part DREK!
Reed
Melissa McCarthy
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 18:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: { brad brace } [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: hosta
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 22:13:32 +0100
From: Carol Starr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
hi brad,
according to my garden book hostas are all shade lovers.
bye, carol :)
{ brad brace } wrote:
Can hosta be planted in full sun or are they just a shade plant?
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Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:16:48 -0700
From: Terrence Kosick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
shade
{ brad brace } wrote:
Can hosta be planted in full sun or are they just a shade plant?
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:48:31
From: Melissa McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
I've got hostas in full sun Don't know if it's right or not, but
they're
growing.
ME
Melissa McCarthy
Hours: whimsical or by appointment
Adult, maybe; grown-up, never!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 06:11:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: { brad brace } [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: hosta
Thanks carol ^,,^
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On Mon, 21 May 2001, Carol Starr wrote:
hi brad, according to my garden book hostas are all shade lovers. bye,
carol :)
- ---
Try and be a sheet of paper with nothing on it.
Be a spot of ground where nothing is growing, Rumi
where something might be planted, Sufi Poet and Mystic
a seed, possibly, from the Absolute.1202 - 1273
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 11:00:24 -0500
From: scott rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Questions
Josh,
is nd.org still in operation?
I just tried to email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
and received a no-such-user return email.
I've seen this website before, but just now
saw it listed on your self-titled homepage.
I may be interested in some contact
of some kind (based solely on what
I gathered fro m the website)...
that is, if they are still operating.
what is/ was your involvement?
sincerely,
Scott Rigby
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What is anti-art?
At what point does anti-art become art?
-Josh Ronsen
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Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 19:48:50 +0200
From: St.Auby Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FLUXLIST: [im] From the Multitudes of Europe Rising Up Against
the Empire (fwd)
From the Multitudes of Europe, Rising Up Against the Empire
and Marching on Genoa (19-20 July 2001)
We are new, and yet we are the same as always.
We are ancient to the future, an army of disobedience. For centuries we
have
marched, armed with stories as weapons, dignity emblazoned across our
ensigns.In the name of dignity we fight those who play the lords and
masters of
people and meadows, forests and waters. Those who rule
Re: FLUXLIST: [im] From the Multitudes of Europe Rising Up Against the Empire(fwd)
St.Auby Tamas wrote: From the Multitudes of Europe, Rising Up Against the Empire and Marching on Genoa (19-20 July 2001) We are new, and yet we are the same as always. Still leading pogroms? (that kill the usurers thing, you know) Still cutting down swathes of the the innocent in pursuit of the guilty? Still wallowing in conspiracy theories? Still looking for enemies and making them wherever their numbers are too few? If you speak to Serbians, Croats, Kosovars, they will all give you good reasons to kill. There are no good reasons to kill. And these movements are not all the same movement. They are not all the same; rather, every historical moment is different, and those differences matter, they matter a great deal. Hussites, for instance, were not particularly inflamed over economic issues, but rather issues of religion. Luddites were angry about an injustice visited particularly on them, not about economic justice in general. Etc. Like most, I'm sure, I prefer a selfconstituted world. Ann-archy, I say, not anarchy! That is, the social must always be a matter of hard negotiation among many positions. No one group of people can be trusted to make all decisions, even if they have all the good music. Only the realm of the private can be a paradise of a single viewpoint. The will of the People--the formerly disenfranchised, many of whom voted for the very first time-- elected, in my home state of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura, a jumped-up member of the Jaquerie, or perhaps as it plays out in this historical moment, the Jockery, who poses no danger to the people of the state in part because of the buffering effect of a century or so of liberal democracy, and the soft barriers of reluctance to do harm that grow up in that climate. Tell me that the workers of Europe, enfranchised, well paid, unionized, are still anarchists, marching into the future in their boots sewed by brown hands who take home, at the end of the day, less than a tenth of our euroanarchist's salary. These European marchers had best march beyond the borders of Europe to find the frontiers of injustice. What do you fluxlisters think about these issues? Is there a role for art in rectifying injustices? Is is simply a feeble tool? AK
