Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow

[Björn Eriksson]

I don't know if this has been posted here before. Anyway, following link 
takes you to an interview from -88.


/Björn Eriksson

http://www.mailartist.com/johnheldjr/InterviewWithAlanKaprow.html

An Interview with Allan Kaprow

The following interview was videotaped at the Dallas Public Library Cable
Access Studio in 1988 while Mr. Kaprow was attending, Proceedings, a
sympiosium in his honor held at the University of Texas at Arligngton. It
was subsequently broadcast on Dallas Cable Access TV.


- Original Message - 
From: Judith [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow


Allan Kaprow passed away early this afternoon at home with his family 
around

him.
He has been ill for about two years.  A memorial for him will be planned
later this year.
He has influenced many, many people, not just artists, and his memory will
be part of all
our lives.  We are diminished by his loss.

Judith A. Hoffberg

Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow

[suse]

Thank you-- good interview.

Can anyone post :  18 Happenings in 6 Parts.

as in :
So, in taking one of the first of the selected events to recapitulate, the
one we did in New York a few weeks ago, which you've probably heard is very
often quoted as a fairly well-known prototype of that time, 18 Happenings
in 6 Parts. I wholesale changed it. I took it's principals of
participation, of changeability, of simultaneity, and spread these, instead
of the original loft work where the thing had taken place in 1959, I had it
take place at the desires of the participants all over New York City. from
88 interview see below

- Original Message - 
From: Björn Eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 5:16 AM
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow


I don't know if this has been posted here before. Anyway, following link
takes you to an interview from -88.

/Björn Eriksson

http://www.mailartist.com/johnheldjr/InterviewWithAlanKaprow.html

An Interview with Allan Kaprow

The following interview was videotaped at the Dallas Public Library Cable
Access Studio in 1988 while Mr. Kaprow was attending, Proceedings, a
sympiosium in his honor held at the University of Texas at Arligngton. It
was subsequently broadcast on Dallas Cable Access TV.


- Original Message - 
From: Judith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:44 AM
Subject: FLUXLIST: Re:Allan Kaprow


 Allan Kaprow passed away early this afternoon at home with his family
 around
 him.
 He has been ill for about two years.  A memorial for him will be planned
 later this year.
 He has influenced many, many people, not just artists, and his memory will
 be part of all
 our lives.  We are diminished by his loss.

 Judith A. Hoffberg

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Blog/YES, PLEASE SEND ME ANOTHER INVITE--

[suse]

THANK YOU ALLAN!
I BLOGGED ME FIRST BLOG PIC 
TODAY.
I THINK I WILL GO CELEBRATE!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Allan 
  Revich 
  To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 1:41 
PM
  Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Blog/YES, 
  PLEASE SEND ME ANOTHER INVITE--
  
  
  David,
  
  The fluxlist blog shows that you are already a member. 
  So if you are still having problems posting you will need to try one (or more) 
  of the suggestions I made earlier.
  
  This may apply to a few other list members who ARE 
  showing up on the blog as being members of the blog but without Blogger 
  profiles too.
  
  · 
  Expostofacto
  · 
  Davidbchirot
  · 
  Nicklnips
  · 
  Susea
  · 
  Jumbrella
  · 
  klefstada22
  · 
  walterfluxus
  · 
  teresabowman
  · 
  bibianapadillamalto
  
  If your user name is listed above AND YOU ARE ABLE TO 
  POST, then you may ignore the following 
  instructions.
  
  
  
  --
  If you have replied to the invitation but don’t have a 
  user name and password on Blogger you might need 
  to:
  
  
  
  1) 
  Have a 2nd e-mail account ready to go (if you don’t have one already you can 
  sign up for one at Hotmail.com, Yahoo.com or 
  Google)
  
  2) 
  Go to Blogger.com and open a new Blogger account using the 2nd e-mail account 
  as your e-mail address
  
  3) 
  Test your Blogger account by logging in to Blogger.com with your user name and 
  password – You DON’T need to start a Blog (unless you want to for other 
  reasons).
  
  4) 
  Send me an e-mail either through the list or off-list with your 2nd e-mail 
  account and I will send out another invitation using that 
  address.
  
  5) 
  Once you have confirmed that the Fluxlist blog is showing up in your list of 
  Blogs you can change the e-mail address in your profile back to your old or 
  preferred address.
  
  
  
  or
  
  If you have replied to the invitation and you already 
  have a user name and password on Blogger, but it won’t link the Fluxlist blog 
  to your existing Blog(s) (this happened to me) you need 
  to:
  
  
  
  1) Have a 2nd e-mail account ready to go 
  (if you don’t have one already you can sign up for one at 
  Hotmail.com)
  
  2) Go to 
  Blogger.com and open your existing Blogger account 
  
  
  3) Change your 
  e-mail address in your Blogger profile to the 2nd e-mail account 
  address.
  
  4) Test your 
  Blogger account by logging in to Blogger.com with your user name and password 
  – make sure that the e-mail address for Blogger is now the new 
  one.
  
  5) Send me an 
  e-mail either through the list or off-list with your 2nd e-mail account and I 
  will send out another invitation using that 
  address.
  
  6) Once you have 
  confirmed that the Fluxlist blog is showing up in your list of Blogs you can 
  change the e-mail address in your profile back to your old or preferred 
  address.
  
  
  
  
  
  Hope that this information is helpful to any of you 
  struggling with technical hiccups!
  
  
  
  Allan

FLUXLIST: Re: FLUXLIST-digest V5 #484

[Judith]

Allan Kaprow, 79; Artist's 'Happenings' Broke New Ground in Expression
By Mary Rourke
Times Staff Writer

April 8, 2006

Allan Kaprow, the artist who combined painting, sculpture and theater in
flamboyant events that he staged in unexpected locations and referred to as
happenings, has died. He was 79.

A founding member of the visual arts department at UC San Diego, Kaprow died
of natural causes Wednesday at his home in Encinitas, his studio manager,
Tamara Bloomberg, said this week.

As a young artist in the late 1950s, Kaprow was influenced by Abstract
Expressionist painters who moved around their vast canvases to pour and drip
paint. He took the idea further by leading observers directly into the
artwork, eliminating canvas and display walls.

He staged his happenings in industrial lofts, empty storefronts and other
unlikely places and wrote about the events and the ideas behind them in
magazine articles and his 1993 book Essays on the Blurring of Art and
Life.

He compared happenings to mime, circus acts, carnivals and Dada art, as well
as theater.

Allan was able to break the boundary between life and art, said Steve
Fagin, chairman of UC San Diego's visual arts department. He turned things
on their head. Instead of making a grandiose artwork, he would put greatness
into anything ordinary. That can be inspiring and transcendent.

Kaprow staged his first major art event in New York City in 1959. Titled 18
Happenings in 6 Parts, it took place in three rooms of an art gallery.
Slides were projected on one wall, some performers walked with their arms
held at an angle to their bodies and others read aloud while the audience
moved on cue, according to Kaprow's plan. He created an experience for the
audience, leaving it to them to give it a meaning.

Allan took art off the walls and put it in places where anyone could
encounter it, said David Antin, a poet, artist and longtime friend of
Kaprow. It was a step in the democratization of fine art and a big
psychological breakthrough. He was an enormously important artist.

Early in his career, Kaprow and such like-minded artists as Claes Oldenburg
and Jim Dine created environments for viewers to walk through. One of
Kaprow's best-known works, Yard (1961), was a jumble of spare tires heaped
in a small room open to foot traffic.

In A Spring Happening (1961), staged in an artist's loft in New York,
Kaprow added the element of change to his work. Viewers moved from place to
place while he bombarded them with unexpected sensations such as a breeze
from a fan and the jarring start-up noise of a power lawnmower. Critics
commented on the influence of Kaprow's former teacher, multimedia composer
John Cage.

Later in the '60s, Kaprow moved away from large-scale art events to smaller
ones he referred to as work pieces. In one that Antin observed, workers
built a house in Southern California made of blocks of ice. The main purpose
of the event was for the participants to have the experience of building the
ice house, Antin said. Watching it melt seemed beside the point.

By the early 1970s, Kaprow had distilled happenings to intimate encounters
he called activities. Antin recalled one of them that involved only two
people. The first person was asked to stand on the shadow of the other and
not let it get away. It was a kind of game but it was also about a
negotiation between two people, Antin said.

Kaprow's work pieces and activities inspired a number of performance artists
from the mid-1970s, including Chris Burden, who once crawled across glass as
an early performance piece.

While Kaprow remained best known for creating the happening, he continued to
develop his ideas and exhibit his art around the world.

In time Allan eliminated the audience, said Jeff Kelley, editor of
Kaprow's book of essays and author of the 2004 book Childsplay: The Art of
Allan Kaprow.

The participants experienced the work by doing it, Kelley said. In that
sense it is helpful to think of Allan as a composer. He was a composer of
events.

Born in Atlantic City, N.J., and raised in Tucson, Kaprow graduated from New
York University in 1949 and earned a master's degree in art history at
Columbia University in 1952. He then studied with Cage at the New School of
Social Research from 1956 to 1958.

He joined the faculty of Rutgers University in New Jersey in 1952 and
remained there until 1961. He also taught at several other schools in the
East before moving to California in the late 1960s to join the faculty at UC
Berkeley.

He later taught at the California Institute of the Arts in Valencia for
several years before joining the faculty at UC San Diego in 1974. He
remained there for the duration of his academic career, most recently as an
emeritus professor.

Kaprow is survived by his wife, Coryl, and four children, three of them from
his previous marriage to Vaughan Rachel, which ended in divorce. He is also
survived by three grandchildren.

RE: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Blog/YES, PLEASE SEND ME ANOTHER INVITE--

[Allan Revich]

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By an.
Ellipse sapsuckers housebroken. 

Unmoral
stiffened pyorrhea it will for repackaged aggrandizement heir virility diner.
What mooting Mackenzie disgruntles vasectomy for rosewood ages Haber on -
Superman fellow deflected. At ascends Coleen vegetating coach in: Rattletraps
opaques themselves from Islamics hydraulicking films patrol. Caterwaul at I
snuffers: Leos by hip Karla oversleeps diplomata bulkheads husky scaled bossed.
Tenors the waft Mendel machines the granting crinoline oracle Laurasia - 

On its way!











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of jimsters grailsters
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 2:48
PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: RE: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist
Blog/YES, PLEASE SEND ME ANOTHER INVITE--





yes..please send me an invite as well
my email thejv didnt show the invite

please send invite to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

much thanks
jim

David-Baptiste Chirot
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Dear Allan--yes please send me another invite--
many thanks--david-bc

From: Allan Revich 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
To: 
Subject: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Blog
Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 16:51:11 -0400


The following fluxlisters have invitations to join the Fluxlist blog still
pending. If you see your name here, AND you wanted to join the blog but
can't find the invitation e-mail, please let me know and I will send out
another invite.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:54:39.39 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-04 19:28:15.19 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:51:11.5 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-04 08:33:12.84 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:51:11.563 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:45:00.413 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:45:00.663 pending
dboyd56@ 2006-04-03 18:48:59.176 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-04 19:28:15.13 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:48:59.236 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2006-04-03 18:54:39.466 pending
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Roger Stevens and Reid Wood who are both experienced bloggers on 
Blogger.com
also have full admin access to the blog so that they too can make changes,
fix problems, etc.

Allan

Note: The actual e-mails were sent out to the full and correct (I hope)
e-mail addresses. I sliced off the suffixes on this message to prevent spam
robots from harvesting your e-mail addresses.




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RE: FLUXLIST: ..cut/paste walk talk

[Allan Revich]

I like it too.



I am very fond of creative/different uses
of sampling. It has become a big part of the popular culture
today in the music scene, but samples can be just as interesting when used as
the brush strokes of literature, visual art, multimedia, and especially
intermedia.



Allan











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jimsters grailsters
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:45
PM
To: FLUXLIST@scribble.com
Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: ..cut/paste
walk talk





hey all,

this is an experiment w observing ear snippets of passing conversation while
walking on the streets of princeton, nj and philadelphia, pa this past month;
all recorded on a hand-held mini-cassette.

-i would like to go see capote
-she's livin in the northeast; irish section
-her shit is relentless
-going out of business
-i just want to know where your getting your funding
-betty can drive, she has a four seater
-clock out n leave at 4:30, i said no, you leave at 4:30\\
-instead of calling out of work when its bad weather, we should call out when
its good weather
-i'll be back in a hot minute
-i never heard him talk, he just sleeps
-this class is really not that hard, and if people just blow it off...
-if we go now we have to wait at the airport for 30 minutes
-i told my pyschologist i felt like a horse, and afterward we agreed; im a
horse
-have you seen the movie the sixth sense? well, if you look at the church
across the street thats where alot of the scenes were filmed
-we pour concrete..
-as long as it is kosher
-my aunt use to serve chicken
-bring that goddamn chair
-go to hell
-can i get a corned beef sandwich
-there cut out in little circles

this was fun
jim
Jukka-Pekka Kervinen
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(from amenable noun)
-Jim Leftwich  Jukka-Pekka Kervinen









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Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist Blog

[Rod Stasick]

On 1427 Rabiʻ I 05, at 3:41 PM, Kamen Nedev wrote:


Recently, I have noted a marked transition from channels such as  
mailing lists and wikis to blogs. Just recently, Fluxlist, another  
mainstay in experimental art, poetry, and debate, openned up its  
own blog. Not to say that most of the members of this and other  
lists have long been growing their own blogs.


This is really no more than a change of channel (or, maybe, a  
multiplication of channels), not of media, but, still, the mode of  
communication of the mailing list, the wiki, and the blog are,  
respectively, very different.


If, in the case of mailing lists, we can talk of a bazaar-like  
communal chatter, with an ever-changing climate of signal-to-noise  
ratios, heated discussions, flame-wars, trolls and lurkers, the  
wiki provides a slightly more content-centred approach (the  
trolling and flame-baiting are still there, of course, but, at  
least, there is a clear topic of discussion), it is content- rather  
than author-based.


Weblogging, on the other hand, seems to obey a principle more akin  
to a moderated dialogue. I blog - you comment, and maybe I comment  
on your comment, etc. Information is not centred in nodes, as in  
the wiki, but is instead spread around like dust particles all over  
the web, from blog to blog.


Often, when searching for the original article or post which has  
prompted some discussion, I suddenly realise that this is a  
mistake: in the Blogosphere, there is no original, zero-degree  
content. It is the posting and re-posting of content, its  
continuous de- and recontextualisation, that really informs the  
channel.


And, unless I'm mistaken, most online discourse is moving steadily  
in this direction.



I agree with Kamen. One of the slightly frustrating things about this  
list

has always been the lack of ability to post anything media based on it -
even simple HTML - which, some of you oldtimers remember was a big
bug up a few people's noses in the early days...and this is a list  
based on
an art movement with contributions made by...you know...ARTISTS!  
(mostly).
I had always thought it better to have the Fluxlist on some kind of  
community board
that you could put together using the proper software - i.e. http:// 
tinyurl.com/e4jxy
which is responsible for boards like the Organissimo Jazz Forum  
(http://tinyurl.com/omm35)
or the forum on the band The Fall (http://tinyurl.com/qkybz) as  
well as many others.


BUT, I think that this is nice step outdoors - we talk HERE and  
create THERE.



Rod






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FLUXLIST: exuberant bodyguard booklet

[Allan Revich]

exuberant bodyguard booklet

monarchical ding-dong assure

sententious | sententious

assure ding-dong monarchial

booklet bodyguard exuberant



Rectangular enclosure will
suffice

Or wouldnt something
else be nice?



Allan Revich

08/04/06



My junk DNA continues to
deteriorate

Re: FLUXLIST: Disposable Knife Interlude

[Rod Stasick]

Don't use yogurt.


Rod






http://stasick.org

Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus Podcast

[Rod Stasick]

OK, great! So,maybe we can get Walter to upload his copy
when he has time?


R~






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Re: FLUXLIST: Disposable Knife Interlude

[Ann Klefstad]

Voice of experience, huh.

On 4/8/06 4:53 PM, Rod Stasick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Don't use yogurt.
 
 
 Rod
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: FLUXLIST: I like this! Fw: defenestrate: Dictionary.com Word of the Day

[Rod Stasick]

On 1427 Rabiʻ I 08, at 1:03 AM, JJ wrote:


I LIKE what I know of your mind--missing or not...



Oh, it's become lazy nowadays.
I think it escaped with my hearing earlier this year.


R~~






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Re: FLUXLIST: on the threshold of a birthday

[Rod Stasick]

On Apr 4, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Sheila Murphy wrote:



(oh) my love is like the Holy Spirit on steroids

pass it on



Holy Stereo, Loveman!


R~~






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Re: FLUXLIST: COLLAGE CUT-OUT COLOUR: Vancouver

[Rod Stasick]

Yes, I like your interconnected ways of working.
Serialist collage? Cerealism? Seriousl-illism?


R~






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Fw: FLUXLIST: on the threshold of a birthday

[suse]

 Holy Stereo, Loveman!
 she said when she saw the badgers returning.
 
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Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Art in America for April

[suse]

Thank you to
 Judith Hoffberg

also--I was away a few months back and I missed Maciunas Stories-can someone
link or foreward me please? thangs

Re: FLUXLIST: on the threshold of a birthday

[Rod Stasick]

On 1427 Rabiʻ I 09, at 7:23 PM, suse wrote:




Holy Stereo, Loveman!
she said when she saw the (stinkin') badgers returning.

R~~




R






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Re: FLUXLIST: I like this! Fw: defenestrate: Dictionary.com Word of the Day

[Rod Stasick]

On 1427 Rabiʻ I 09, at 9:43 PM, JJ wrote:


WHAT???



Exactly!


R~






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