Re: FLUXLIST: [fmII] - Project details for Tempest for Eliza
Isnt that effect used since years for spying, what you do on your keyboard? Ask any hacker, H. On Wed, 15 Aug 2001, Sol Nte wrote: http://freshmeat.net/projects/tempestforeliza/ Tempest for Eliza is a program that uses your computer monitor to send out AM short wave radio signals. You can then hear computer generated music in your radio. This is cool beyond belief!!! Thanks Kathy :-) cheers, Sol.
FLUXLIST: What is teaches you...
Isnt that effect used since years for spying, what you do on your keyboard? Ask any hacker, It teaches me more, how incredible stupid this list is, anyway: generated music in your radio. it teaches you that your computer can be observed. Tempest for Eliza works with every monitor, every ... This is one really cool piece of software that shows how easy it is to tap into what is seen on the screen. And also the fact that one can Tempest for Eliza is a program that uses your computer monitor to send out AM short wave radio signals. You can then hear computer generated music in your radio. This is cool beyond belief!!! Thanks Kathy :-) cheers, Sol.
Re: FLUXLIST: [fmII] - Project details for Tempest for Eliza
started flashing black and white lines. I believe hackers just put keystroke loggers on target machines which record all keyboard key presses to a log Nono ;-) Same effect. Less visible without such a program. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: pix
Not yet, I think. H. On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, bibiana padilla wrote: did I send the pix for Heiko? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
FLUXLIST: Re: pix
Dearest, I have to leave, trains, but thanks for the mail. H. On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, bibiana padilla wrote: In the email I thought I'd send I was asking Heiko if he wanted a pix of AVTEXTFEST or a pix of me. If it was thee first one, here's the picture of the past AVTEXTFEST (january 2001): Carlos Gutiérrez, he's one of my coorganizers; Giancarlo Grande, italian video director that presented a video poetry installation and an essay about the posibilities between video and poetry; then it's me, with glasses on; Joel Kuzsai, Octavia Davis and Bill Marsh, they presented
Re: FLUXLIST: From The London Ministry Of Dizziness...
BIBIANA PADILLA MALTOS AVTEXTFEST general coordinator I want a picture.
Re: FLUXLIST: The artification of Ono's anti-art
Hi, On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, ann klefstad wrote: I saw the YES YOKO ONO show here and was underwhelmed. Much of her earlier work is precise, honed, elegant, effective. But as one goes forward in the work, it becomes ingenuous, dreamy in a way I find silly, less and less pointed, more and more naif. Maybe as I was very underwhelmed by some John Lennon ducumentations some month ago. I am not shure if he was anyhow stronger in his time. Outside of his songs. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.
Well, reading old emails, I think I should repeat the question. Btw, is embedding anyhow fluxish aka elegant in the Ken Friedman sense? intricate sound loops embedded in http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/abstraction-engine.html Coundnt find any sounds. I wish there were a simple directory like http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/mp3s/police/ Ok.. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxus/Fluxlist
At 9:54 Uhr -0400 17.07.2001, Robin Thurlow wrote: course, all communities go through cycles occasionally there are tensions that arise, but this will lead into a creative period again. For the most part I've never felt shy about joining in on discussions or participating in projects when they're proposed... so you know there is a sense of community and support here. My favorite aspects of Fluxus is that it changes the way I think about ordinary worldly things. There 's quite a bit I don't yet understand but I love hearing of various artists' documented projects even sometimes taking part. Check out scoop. The URL is scoop.some5thing, maybe altavista knows more.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
At 18:41 Uhr -0400 15.07.2001, Reed Altemus wrote: So no, it is not so strange to me that there is no definition of Fluxus. RA Of course, nobody defined it. Why is that so strange? And what is the difference between a definition and those rules of Ken ? Just Kens art or art ? Well, who was the greatest Fluxus artist ? Beuys ? Blablabla.
Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]
Eric, Listowners, who try to solve disputes by banning people should meet no respect. Listowners not respected should step down. As much as it might be valid in general, I think we are a private list. Somebody is paying for it. And he can do whatever he wants. Thats life. H.
Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]
At 9:47 Uhr +0100 16.07.2001, Roger Stevens wrote: As much as it might be valid in general, I think we are a private list. I agree. Whoever said the list was a democracy? But, on the other hand, see it as a party, and we, as a group, could decide to go.
Re: [Fwd: FLUXLIST: test x]
At 10:46 Uhr +0100 16.07.2001, Roger Stevens wrote: I brought my harp to the party and nobody asked me to play Yeah, but arent we all playing some kind of harp ? Lilith had a harp in Roma, nice instrument. Bom sharkar ! The g2k affair, hmmm. Had many sides. Harping in the internet, irony, isnt it the same what listgod Cage sayed, if you put some irony in it ? I had some Bitnet experiences with different listservs and never experienced something like that. Maybe it is some kind of second wave phenomenon, like nettime, which is moderated. The internet is so cool and fluxish. Anyway, maybe this is simply all too much Maciunas aka authoritarian, no humor etc... Btw, I remember we once were discussing Pornography. That old ladies might be offended etc. Is or was fluxus such an old lady group ? H.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
StAubryThomas: Piss off, will you. I like him. Even if he writes sometimes things I see in a different way. It was extremly stupid by whoever was responsible for this to block a topic from discussion and not a person/sender.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
At 1:01 Uhr +0200 14.07.2001, Eric Andersen wrote: Not only highly appreciated by Emmett Williams, Arthur Koepcke, Tomas Schmit and myself but by most artists connected to the network and finally by George Maciunas with a delay of some 10 years. Well, as you seem to know them all, what did you or do you think of Dick Higgins ? And, speakinf of Mr M, what do you think of Al Hanson ? Was he an artist ? Which works would you say are art ? (I liked the early theoretical things on Happenings most. And his sentence: I dont like artists who make other artists bad.) And I dont care if any original fluxers participate in this list. As I didnt care about Ken very much. If he was an artist or not. To be an artist, thats mostly a personal view of others. He was a cofounder of this list, which was mostly based on Higgins internet experiences. Higgins liked to see things fly. Ken was sometimes a little bit pedantic. Both praised Mr M very much. What do you think of Als pornographic stuff ? I think such stuff was once topic in fluxus politics. There we can see allready some peoples lameness... H.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
So - what is/ was genius 2000? An online personality by some idiot. He was spamming the list with shit. Question remains how this should have been adressed properly. Was there any censorship ? I think he would have been kicked off every list. H. I (and probably a lot of others) haven't a clue what anyone's been talking about on this topic these last few weeks XXX Roger
Re: FLUXLIST: Boulez, Andersen and democracy
center. During 1984, one of the departments decided that they were not going to have a department head, 1984, this was late.
Re: FLUXLIST: be WAP a loo la
At 19:22 Uhr +0200 17.05.2001, alan bowman wrote: what happened to the WAP stuff? And what happened to WAP in general ? Reminds me to the Polaroid craze here some time ago. I had the opinion it would be more wise to boycott such things. Make your webpages easy, test them with lynx, will make any handies happy.
Re: FLUXLIST: test x
What they are asking for carries no weight, and you are escalating Blablablabla. Please give us a definition for censorship.
Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.
intricate sound loops embedded in http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/abstraction-engine.html Thanks. I'll fetch this page next time I am online. Online, offline, how long will this paradigm survive ?? It sux. Does anybody remeber the movie, with the saxophonplayer falling from thwe roof and somebody saying Thats Doppler Effekt ? Jim Jarmuch, Permanent vacation or something similar. American cinema: How important is glamour etc in viewers view ? H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.
intricate sound loops embedded in http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/abstraction-engine.html Coundnt find any sounds. I wish there were a simple directory like http://bbrace.laughingsquid.net/mp3s/police/ Ok.. H.
FLUXLIST: Creative Writing...
How fluxish is that ? H Listen tccc28.rm at orang.orang.org
Re: FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.
Nope. The siren-sounds are routinely altered so that the citizenry doesn't become accustomed to them and turn a deaf-ear. Here in San Francisco, there are the loudest sirens I've ever experienced: pedestrians plug their ears as these vehicles pass-by... the intransigent are frequently run-down anyway. Please send me some examples, longer pieces in mp3 ;-) Best, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: microsoft outlaws perl other open source software
getting served a subpoena because the license for one of the Fear, seems to be one of the main elements of the american dream. Or bullshitting people. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: microsoft outlaws perl other open source software
Hi, Imagine spending months building a large Web application, then getting served a subpoena because the license for one of the components doesn't let it be installed with other parts of the application. That would happen if you used Perl or most other open source software in a Web application with Microsoft's Mobile Internet Toolkit. In its license for the Mobile Internet Toolkit, Microsoft forbids developers to use open source software in conjunction with Toolkit. Such limitations of the MS licence are unvalid. Maybe good enough for a story but not good enough for subpoena. H.
FLUXLIST: Police car samples (sirenes etc..) wanted.
Hi, subject says it all, looking for some police car samples to incoporat such sounds into the music (orang.orang.org etc.) Offlist ;-) And maybe the samples could be converted to mp3 ;-) Thanks, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:22:51 +0200 From: St.Auby Tamas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted High! (sic) alan bowman wrote: i have to compile a (predominantly Fluxus related) mailing list i'm not really sure where to start does anyone have any helpful suggestions? Start at letter A: Eric Andersen Roerholmsgade 18, IV th. Copenhagen K DK-1352 Denmark Hugh! (sic) Tamas St.Auby NETRAF-agent (Neo-Socialist Realist International Parallel Union of Telecommunication's Global Anti-Arthistory-Falsifiers Front)
Re: FLUXLIST: tests
It is interesting to see how silent everybody becomes, when your voice is heard. Sounds like wishfull thinking. What do you want ? Lions ;-) H.
Re: FLUXLIST: mailing lists-help wanted
does anyone have any helpful suggestions? Get an old 486 and install mailserver software on it. I think majordomo is UNIX. www.freebsd.org H.
FLUXLIST: Makemusicfast.zip
at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/makemusicfast.zip (1,2 MB). Midikey for making MIDI files on the ordinary PC keyboard, dont know if such a thing exists for Macs, and some kind of sampler, to play samples into wavs, midi2cs and csound. For win 95 etc. H.
FLUXLIST: sonar festival in barcelona
Anybody ever heard of this ? electronic music
FLUXLIST: euro festival in europe
Well, the euro coin is coming. Collect old coins ;-)
RE: FLUXLIST: sonar festival in barcelona
Barcelona. This year was the 8th edition. Here in Spain, this festival is becoming a reference festival for all who loves this music, althought And german VIVA 2 is pushing it as some kind of reference in europe, maybe it is. progressive music includes a very large range of types. This year, for example, you could see dance Dj's or Terry Riley, some new jazz shows or Sonic Youth playing compositions from Good bye 20th century. This is new news ;-) Thanks, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
Hi, On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote: the language of poets and thinkers: I got to the point when I understood that everyone who counts was/is German Nothing important. A saying, that is used with irony. H. ab aber als am an auch auf aus
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
Dear Julia, I got to the point when I understood that everyone who counts was/is German The original sentence, saying, is the country of poets and thinkers. The idea was the old ideal of Hulboldt, the german universities etc. Every poet and thinker from abroad is welcome. H.
FLUXLIST: Stopwords
a above according across actually adj after afterwards again against all almost alone along already also although always among amongst an and another any anyhow anyone anything anywhere are aren aren't around as at be became because become becomes becoming been before beforehand begin beginning behind being below beside besides between beyond billion both but by can can't cannot caption co could couldn couldn't did didn didn't do does doesn doesn't don don't down during each eg eight eighty either else elsewhere end ending enough etc even ever every everyone everything everywhere except few fifty first five for former formerly forty found four from further had has hasn hasn't have haven haven't he hence her here hereafter hereby herein hereupon hers herself him himself his how however hundred ie i.e. if in inc inc. indeed instead into is isn isn't it its itself last later latter latterly least less let like likely ll ltd made make makes many maybe me meantime meanwhile might million miss more moreover most mostly mr mrs much must my myself namely neither never nevertheless next nine ninety no nobody none nonetheless noone nor not nothing now nowhere of off often on once one only onto or others otherwise our ours ourselves out over overall own per perhaps rather re recent recently same seem seemed seeming seems seven seventy several she should shouldn shouldn't since six sixty so some somehow someone something sometime sometimes somewhere still stop such taking ten than that the their them themselves then thence there thereafter thereby therefore therein thereupon these they thirty this those though thousand three through throughout thru thus to together too toward towards trillion twenty two under unless unlike unlikely until up upon us used using ve very via was wasn we we well were weren weren't what whatever when whence whenever where whereafter whereas whereby wherein whereupon wherever whether which while whither who whoever whole whom whomever whose why will with within without won would wouldn wouldn't yes yet you your yours yourself yourselves
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
someone on Fluxlist wants a envelope with a few words... Somebody on Fluxlist wants some spanish stopwords ? Or french ? Or even german ? H.
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
Yes, please. Spanish and French and even German! Ok, here is also something in my own language. Not dutch, but the language of poets and thinkers: ab aber als am an auch auf aus bei beim bin bis bist da dadurch daher dann darum das dass daß dein deine dem den der deren des deshalb die dies dieser dieses doch dort du durch ein eine einem einen einer eines er es euer eure euren für fuer haben hatte hatten hattest hattet hätte haette hätten hätten hier hinten ich ihr ihre im in ist ja jede jedem jeden jeder jedes jener jenes jetzt kann kannst können könnt könnte konnte koennen koennte könnten koennten machen mein meine mit muss muß musst mußt muessen müssen muesst müßt muesste müßte nach nachdem nein nicht noch nun oder seid sein seine seit sich sie sind soll sollen sollst sollt solltest sonst soweit sowie und unser unsere unter über ueber vom von vor wann warum war waere wäre was weiter weitere welcher welcher wenn wer werde werden werdet weshalb wie wieder wieso wir wird wirst wo wurde zu zum zur zurück
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
Hi, On Mon, 25 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote: Yes, please. Spanish and French and even German! Spanish in the other mail, but I did promise to much, there is no french version. But, thats life, *dutch*, voila: aan achter af alle als behalve ben bent bij daar daardoor daarom dan dat de derhalve deze die echter een elk elke en enige haar had hadden heb hebben hebt heeft hen het hier hij hun ieder iedere iemand ik in is ja jij jouw jullie kan kunnen maak maakt maar maken met mijn mits moest moet moeten na nee niemand niet noch nog nu of omdat onder ons onze ook over overige sinds tot totdat tussen u uw van vanaf verder voor voorts waar waarom wanneer wat wederom weer welk welke werd werden wie wij word worden wordt zal zich zij zijn zoals zou zouden zullen
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Stopwords
Ok, On Tue, 26 Jun 2001, Losonczi Júlia wrote: Yes Here comes spanish, aybe tomorrow french ? Sorry, nothing from italy yet. Voila: a al ante atras asi aun aunque aqui alli bajo cabe con contra cada casi como cual cuales cualquiera cuando como cuanto cuantos de desde del demas donde en entre el este esta esto estos estas ese esa eso esos esas aquel aquella aquello aquellos aquellas ella ello ellos ellas etc hacia hasta la lo los las mas me mio mia mios mias mi mis no ni ningun ninguno ninguna nosotros nosotras nunca nuestro nuestra nuestros nuestras para por porque pero pues que quiza quizas segun si so sobre se sin sino suyo suyas sus tras tu te tal tales tambien tampoco tan tanto tantos tanta tantas tuyo tuyos tus un uno unos unas vosotros vosotras vuestro vuestra vuestros vuestras y yo ya
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: Ernest Lergon feedback
B. For the HMTL: 1. replace all '\' with '/' - we're in UNIX...
Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!
I think if something works okay in IE and Netscape then it's okay. Of course Lynx is a whole other matter ;-) Links to gifs and lynx with xv.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: brads pics
credibility on stuff posted here is a little low. This is new to me. And, havent seen the pics, and will probably never see them, what counts most is taste. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!
should be: IMG SRC=ehgallery/fluxus.jpg WIDTH=268 HEIGHT=297 BORDER=5 or: IMG SRC=ehgallery/fluxus.jpg ? ;-)
Re: FLUXLIST: the pictures!!!!!!!!
can someone s'plain me why my site worked with IE and not Netscape? Maybe you used a MS HTML Editor ? Everything more special than notepad is wasted. Learn the 4 or 5 html tags that you need and it will work on any webbrowser in the world. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Fluxlist in Venice
coming soon the bowman/ay-o/gigliotti loud shirt demonstration pics Giolitti or Fassi ?
FLUXLIST: Do we need XML ?
I redesigned the MIME thing at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ There is now also something in VRML, featuring the Popalley. So, if you have your cosmo player installed, go for it ! H.
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox
from a disc image. However I'll leave it to Owen to say whether the files he has are in a form suitable to go ahead. Owen I remember you had problems with some of the archive files? We could always share a disc image via ftp. Archives could be put as is on a cdrom.
Re: FLUXLIST: (no subject)
As we had had this topic some time ago. It is so beautifull to see Brad
mailing without his 1994 Sig.
On Sat, 12 May 2001, { brad brace } wrote:
Hi! Would Loid please contact me regarding the pineapple sage. Good news!
The Lady Slipper is up!
Re: FLUXLIST: fluxlistbox
Wow!!! That's great. . . . Owen Dear Owen, do you still think of the CDRom ? It doesnt seem to difficult to make such a thing. Maybe you did allready some prototypes. A filesystem and wavs. We could tree it, in the Greatfull Dead and Mileslist tradition: you are the head, some people with a burner are branches. CDRoms are extremly cheap, to send a CD isnt very expensiv. Well, there is no unique design, but lot of stuff for historians after we give our things to archives. Branches should get gifts by leaves. Other CDRoms, whatever they want. Who has a burner ? Me. But I dont have much money, german post is very expensive ;.) Maybe we could have european braches and american. And some kind of a piece of paper, to be put into the jewel box or whatever. Maybe Sol can print labels ? ;-) H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Some Fluxus/Higgins, etc connections here
Speeking of Higgins, does anybody remember this piece ? H. sevenfly.pdf
FLUXLIST: SMIL etc..
Did expanded the Netscape, Edit, Preferences, Application, SMIL, MIME, Kipperberger, Godard etc page at http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ There are some names of application now. How to view SMIL etc. H.
FLUXLIST: Listen..
Has anybody ever seen listen.gmd.de ? H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: RHIZOME_RAW: Re: 12hr KEYWORDS
Terence asked: The 12hr-ISBN-JPEG Project since 1994 when's the next project? His .sig is much to long, and I dont understand the isbn in it, but.. it still seems to be fresher than. Looks like a design experiment.
Re: FLUXLIST: Listen..
So much interesting stuff going on it seems...a very exciting time for computer music/sound. La societe du spectacle.
FLUXLIST: Buggy as hell...
SMIL. Could be so funky, if Quicktime and Real would agree on standards. Simple asynchromous filelists are ok. You can see whats happening. At http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ Screenshot is SGI, background is Kippenberger, music is Miles at Stanford 72 and Chick, McLaughlin etc at Ann Arbour 70. Video clips are Godard, Nochmal Godard, Hallo America, Und nochmal Godard, Eichmann in Jerusalem, Nochmal Godard, mit Eisenbahn, Wie wir leben, Peng, peng, Yeah, have fun !! There is something for each OS, including Unix. Best wishes, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: David Tudor Symposium at the Getty
I wish I knew more about his machines.
FLUXLIST: Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage, RE: [silence] 101 Questions(re John Cage) (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2001 16:21:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Lama Kunga Gyaltsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ralph Lichtensteiger [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Storrs Barrett Booch-Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage, RE: [silence] 101 Questions (re John Cage) Sixty-Four (64) Answers Re: John Cage #1: If you had only been to the seminar a year ago Monday, you would have been able to pick up a copy of the 101 Questions (re John Cage). Well, here they are again ... [see below] #2: Nothing is accomplished ... #3: It is nice to be able to listen, when you get the chance. #4: [next] [Storrs Barrett Booch-Williams, Composer] --Original Message-- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ralph Lichtensteiger) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: April 23, 2001 4:54:00 PM GMT Subject: [silence] 101 Questions (re John Cage) 101 Questions (re John Cage) Human nature is not a machine to be built after a model, and set to do exactly the work prescribed for it, but a tree, which requires to grow and develop itself on all sides, according to the tendency of the inward forces which make it a living thing. (John Stuart Mill, On Liberty) Upon our travels along the alleys and byways of the Cage Road, it has sometimes occured to us, that it is not all gold which glitters there, and that some interesting points worth querying have still been left open by our contemporaries. To bring flexibility into this (sometimes too academic scene) we developed the 101 questions. Call for answer/response ! We invite you to send us answers (or new questions) concerning this list of 101 questions. We will process (using chance operations) this material in a second version of the 101 Questions project. This second version will be the basis of a live performance simultaneously with a work of approx. the same length. All questions are also available on CD as lecture-concert version: 101 Questions performed simultaneously with 2nd, 4th, 5th and 8th Quartet for one (or up to three) speaker, piano, electronics, glockenspiel, toy piano and percussion or performed simultaneously with Do You Think Cage part 1, 2 and part 3 for speaker, piano, electronics and percussion You can order this unique recordings by e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or by fax: +49 69 1337 4110 http://www.geocities.com/lichtcage/musique_trouve.html 1) Do you think John Cage's view of the east is profound? 2) Did you ever listen to the piece Atlas Eclipticalis for piano solo in full length? 3) Are sounds just sounds or are they Beethoven? 4) Do you think that we live in an anarchic society since the information technology revolution? 5) Did you enjoy reading the text Empty Words by John Cage? 6) Would you agree that nothingness in art is not nothingness? 7) Do you think John Cage read the Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes? 8) Do you think Leviathan would have had an influence on Cage's ideas about society and anarchy? 9) Why did John Cage dislike recordings of his work? 10) It is true, and at the same time not true, that John Cage wrote the composition 4'33''. Do you agree that the piece 4'33'' would not exist without the work of Anton Webern and Erik Satie? 11) Despite embracing a certain universality towards all tones (as implied in his there is no noise, only sound concept), Cage seems to have practiced a very strict distinction between inventiveness and open-mindedness (i.e. tolerance or intolerance of certain principles for his work), for whenever we see him confronted with music forms bearing any elements of a forseeable kind, or let us say, predictable nature, his open-mindedness drew the line exactly there (as opposed to composers like John Zorn, who help themselves to slices of whatever tickle their fancy) - this adherence to unpredictability seems, in part, to have propelled him towards aleatoric principles. View, in particular, his scathing comments on jazz and its clinging to a rythmic base (as also found in all variations of folkloric influences worldwide, by the way)... Perhaps Cage rejected any relationship with any form of music that leads towards any kind of trance state for his own body of work? 12) Just because he enjoyed Riley and Reich, did not mean he had to create in similiar vein. Did Cage, in general, dislike perpetrating music forms that others had already invented? As in, it's already been done by others, no need for me to do it as well? 13) Will new vegetarian dance be as energetic as meat-eating dance has been? 14) If we drop beauty, what have we got? 15) Do you think John Cage is a word-laundromat? 16) Would John Cage have liked to be more famous or popular? 17) Did John Cage like the fine arts more than sex? 18) Why does sex play no role in his work? 19) Is John Cage's work really important? 20) Did John Cage enjoy his guru status? 21) Is it true that John Cage tested mushrooms by feeding them to dogs? 22) Does music need
Re: FLUXLIST: Sex, Drugs, and 4 minutes of music
the Oxford '73 Fluxshoe, John Cale talks about La Monte Young and Lucy First I read John Cage but Cale is obviously... Tell us more about your music experiments. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Bush virtual pet game soars in China
URL ? And is there a PC version ? Or a handheld emulator ? Get yours at http://www.eruptor.com/ All I found were flash animations of type application/x-director, saw nothinggg. H.
FLUXLIST: Protools
Suggest another 1 minute project, or maybe 40 sec or whatever we agree. From the lessons of the first experiment: Each participient should provide 1 file. Those files be mixed afterwards by each party. So as many mixes as there are parties. There would be two rounds. *First we should create these files. Somebody starts and others add their tracks. Each party is free to change its file/track until the end of the round. The contributions should be just the added tracks, not more, not less. This can be done with ProTools, that saves tracks in individual files. For example. Voila, the URL: www http://aria.digidesign.com/downloads/ptfstuff/ There are versions for Mac and PC, you dont have to download the 15 MB demo session, but the docs are usefull. *The final mixes, wellthe endproduct will be just many stereo files. 1 minute and the 128 kbit mp3 stream of around 1 MB filesize could be managed. But 40 seconds could be enough. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Protools
This is just beginning. On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, claudio chea wrote: hello, is this an online collab project or something i could participate in please let me know if it isl,, regards yituey www.mp3.com/yituey www.cornucopiapr.com www.ecodiscos.com - Original Message - From: "Heiko Recktenwald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 1:11 PM Subject: FLUXLIST: Protools Suggest another 1 minute project, or maybe 40 sec or whatever we agree. From the lessons of the first experiment: Each participient should provide 1 file. Those files be mixed afterwards by each party. So as many mixes as there are parties. There would be two rounds. *First we should create these files. Somebody starts and others add their tracks. Each party is free to change its file/track until the end of the round. The contributions should be just the added tracks, not more, not less. This can be done with ProTools, that saves tracks in individual files. For example. Voila, the URL: www http://aria.digidesign.com/downloads/ptfstuff/ There are versions for Mac and PC, you dont have to download the 15 MB demo session, but the docs are usefull. *The final mixes, wellthe endproduct will be just many stereo files. 1 minute and the 128 kbit mp3 stream of around 1 MB filesize could be managed. But 40 seconds could be enough. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Bush virtual pet game soars in China
While the U.S.-made PortaBush software for handheld computers wasn't released with much fanfare last week, it became a big hit in China very quickly. URL ? And is there a PC version ? Or a handheld emulator ? H. The software's American designers noticed a huge traffic spike Thursday coming from China, at one point reaching about 2,000 downloads in an hour and threatening to overwhelm their servers. "About 80 percent of the downloads were coming from China," Eruptor Entertainment President Brad Foxhoven said Friday. The White House had no immediate comment on the new Chinese interest. Released a week ago by Marina Del Ray, Calif.-based Eruptor Entertainment, the software toy is similar to the faded Tamagotchi craze. Players feed their PortaBush, keep him happy and help him make vital national decisions like whether to bomb teen singer Britney Spears. Get yours at http://www.eruptor.com/
Re: FLUXLIST: RE: Peter Brotzmann
Thanks. Well, Wuppertal ;-)
Re: FLUXLIST: Peter Brotzmann
Does anyone have further info on his involvement? I don't have the Fluxus Codex handy. He was one of the Freejazzers here of the 60s and like every "avantgarde" artist in the 60s here he has something to do with it. Sorry, dont know more. Think he is from Wuppertal ?
Re: FLUXLIST: Subj: **Reminder: NO SENSORS Monday 7pm @ FUN
Can somebody enlighten me in a problem, that is raised in the html part of Christines message ? What exactly is "Carnivore" ? What is this piece of software doing *exactly* ? I heard of it that it is "terrible", but I dont know in what cases it should be activ and what it is doing. H. On Sun, 8 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cristine Wang Assistant Editor NY ARTS Magazine 46 Mercer Street 7Fl New York 10013 (tel) 212.274.8993 (fax) 226.3400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nyartsmagazine.com
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fffo barcodes gifs
How can you refuse? I must start Netscape for this ;-) Ok, thanks ! H.
Re: FLUXLIST: respecting the limitations of the 1 hot minute soundproject
which is, I would say, a composition more like an exquisite corpse This is the misunderstanding. But in my understanding, this experiment is open, and so it goes ;-) No problem, I just liked the cecilia effects, like a violin, and the falcon sounds etc were still there. Milder than before, less Captain Beefhard like, less clicks. There is a moment after the big silence in the middle when Zaps piano reappears that I really like. Sounds a little bit ringmodulated now, so what. Etc.. But I understand that you were shocked. Best, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project
Listed to the interesting 1 minute. Now, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't hear the previous two works in there anywhere. I understood that I did still hear them. With some modifications. each were supposed to add to the original but not subtract anything or extend beyond the one minute file. Maybe it is your intention that your one minute is to be overlaid onto the other work at the end? Kind of like you made a track? I am playing with cecilia in the moment, not with cool edit pro or some other multitrack program. This is an experiment, other experiments may follow. Dont be shy. All I did was some filtering. There is plenty of empty space, silence, in the middle to sing or whatever. Or add something at the beginning. Like Brad did. I doesnt matter if it fits into the stereo sound. Make it sound more interesting. Well, best H.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project
All this does is eliminate my contribution and the initial "seed;" I think that either Heiko needs to remix, or the first two stages are to be readmitted at the end of the cycle. I think nobody at this experiment can expect his own contribution to be like it once was. But experiences like this are part of the thing. Everybody has a different musical background. I think the original ambience athmosphere was preserved. Some clicks less, so what... Maybe Cecil has a microphone and a DAT recorder and some sounds from her hometown. Or whatever she does with what she found. Lets see how the thing changes. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project
versions now that it comes to me. But personally I believe all material that comes to each person from previous contributors should be kept intact and identifiable. I want to hear everything from everyone in as Ah, this was a misunderstanding. What means "intact and identifiable" ? Zaps ambience and the computer game sounds are still there. Well, modified, but they are still there. Its an experiment.
Re: FLUXLIST: Re: fffo barcodes gifs
your barcodes as requested. Sorry, I did miss that. Could somebody be so kind to forward it ? Thanks, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project
server domain [IP]: mashica.com[195.61.23.43] user: fluxlist pass: situicide Well, I got this, lets see, on another window... Very nice !! ;-) There was something that I am now downloading with bin and mget * Well, there is a readme.txt, will tell me all I need to know. Thanks, H.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 hot minute sound project
server domain [IP]: mashica.com[195.61.23.43] user: fluxlist pass: situicide Well, its done. The history.txt should be downloaded in ascii, if you are on Mac or Windows. The server knows the ren command, like in ren bla.mp3 04_onehotmin.mp3, ah ;-) Best, H.
FLUXLIST: [silence] SILENCE PLEASE (fwd)
Well, 1 Second ;-) -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 16:57:24 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [silence] SILENCE PLEASE AN APPEAL FOR SILENCE fourthirtythree.org is a series of projects to mark the 50th anniversary, in 2002, of John Cage's silent composition 'four minutes, thirty-three seconds' SILENCE PLEASE is our first project. The aim is to collect single seconds of silence (in the Cagean sense) from as many people as possible and use them to create collaborative 'performances' of the piece using contributions from around the world. If you would like to contribute a second, please go to fourthirtythree.org for details We look forward to hearing from you --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.237 / Virus Database: 115 - Release Date: 07/03/01 - [Searchable Silence archives: http://newalbion.com/artists/cagej/silence/] [How to join, unsubscribe, etc: http://www.metatronpress.com/jzitt/Cage/] [ or email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the text "info silence" ]
Re: FLUXLIST: Printing, painting on CD Roms. Howto ?
to write/draw on the CD itself. I personally like to use rubber stamps/pen/typewriter on blank CD labels. The label idea. Hmm... I am looking more for direct ways for decoration. Silkscreen printing comes to mind. But I have no idea what kind of color (laque) to use. CDs are so cheap today ;-) Thanks, H.
FLUXLIST: nettime Silence surrounding creation of new NAS DNS study committee?(fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:32:13 -0500 (EST) From: Ronda Hauben [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: nettime Silence surrounding creation of new NAS DNS study committee? "National Academy of Science Enters the DNS Controversy New Committee Established to Do Study for US Congress" "Considering [the]... background and the official role of the NAS to advise the US government on scientific matters, what expertise is needed to fulfill this request by the US Congress? Does the definition of the problem and the composition of the NAS committee demonstrate an understanding of the challenge? " From article in Telepolis: http://www.telepolis.de/english/inhalt/te/7248/1.html A process that made it possible to build the Internet was a process that learned from what had been created toward determining what was needed for future development. Is the composition of the new DNS NAS committee such that there is the expertise to learn the needed lessons from the current achievement of the Internet as a general purpose interactive and international human-computer-communications metasystem? Judging by some of the biographies of the provisional members of the committee, there seems little indication that an understanding of the development of the Internet was the criteria for the selection of several of the members of the committee. The public has 20 days from the date that the initial appointments were made to make comments on the selection of members. The initial appointments were supposedly made on March 16. This would mean that comments on the provisional appointments would need to be submitted to the NAS by April 4. In such a controversial matter, it seems a serious problem that there has been so little public discussion or awareness of the creation and composition of this committee thus far. It would be good to see public discussion of the nature of the scope of the committee and its composition before the end of the comment period. This committee is charged with writing a report for the US Congress which will serve as advice for the US policy toward the domain name system development and its future. This is an area of technical development that will impact all users of the Internet, and yet a small group of people, a number of whom seem to have limited knowledge of the nature of the development of the Internet, are being charged with advising the US Congress on the Internet's future development. It is hard to know how the public can have any impact on this process, but one can predict what will be the outcome if the online community continues to be excluded from the activity of the NAS in the formation and workings of this committee. Ronda [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.columbia.edu/~hauben/netizens http://www.columbia.edu/~rh120/other/birth_internet.txt # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FLUXLIST: wanna see a ridiculous review of a beuys show?
I've understood Beuys to be this very celebrity: his 'talks' were always I like america and america likes me.
FLUXLIST: Printing, painting on CD Roms. Howto ?
Hi, I got a burner and I am producing cds. Audio etc. Mixed should be. The cdrom case can serve as a box for this and that, what lies around, little papers, happy meal. Sotosay a picture frame. With glas. Great. But how can the cdrom itself be decorated ? Any experiences anybody ? What do you use, colors, materials ? Currently I use a roller pencil, is this danceable ? Everybody who isnt shure if he should get a burner, do it ! H.
Re: FLUXLIST: nw lngo
ja ja! ziz lizt iz mztly blabla budiez! Compare this to Hansen etc.
FLUXLIST: Re: nettime Carl Loeffler(was: net art history)(fleischmann|adrian|penny|Recktenwald|Biggs) (fwd)
Biggs mentions Judith, mailcart etc, below: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 15:33:13 -0500 From: nettime's re tracer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nettime Carl Loeffler(was: net art history) (fleischmann|adrian|penny|Recktenwald|Biggs) Re: nettime Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) monika fleischmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) robert adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: nettime Carl Loeffler (and art history) simon penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: nettime Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: nettime Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) Simon Biggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 01:46:20 +0100 From: monika fleischmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: nettime Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) Hi Tilman, .. for example Manfred Eisenbeis, Roy Ascott, Roger Malina knew him well. Monika At 1:11 Uhr +0100 16.03.2001, Tilman Baumgaertel wrote: At 20:23 19.02.01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... There's been interest in the "archaic days" lately, the period pre-1994 stretching back to the dawn of humankind. Carl Leoffler's death the other day reminded me that his ArtCon newsgroup was one of my first contacts with other artists on the net. I think both Heath Bunting and Brad Brace were there. Hi! Sorry for joining this thread so late, but I was on vacation. Murphy, you mention Carl Loeffler, and that he died recently, a fact of which I wasn't aware. In my research on early, pre-internet telecommunication art I kept encountering his name. He edited an issue of Leonardo Magazine on telecommunication art and started the art.com newsgroup - that is as much as I know of him. I tried at various times to contact him, but couldn't find his mail adress or a homepage, which was odd since he seemed to be one of the few art critics who championed this kind of art in the 80ies and early 90ies. I would have loved to interview him (to be honored as an ASCII paparazzi by kind souls), because he seemed to be an important person in the development of the development of net art before the net. Maybe you or somebody else who knew him wants to relate some memories on Carl Loeffler or even write kind of an orbituary? I think that would be fitting on this list and in the context of this discussion. Yours, Tilman ... I think, and then I sink into the paper like I was ink. Eric B. Raakim: Paid in full Dr. Tilman Baumgaertel Hornstr. 3 10963 Berlin Tel/Fax. 030-2170962 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.thing.de/tilman # distributed via nettime: no commercial use without permission # nettime is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monika Fleischmann | Head of MARS - Exploratory Media Lab | GMD - Institute for Media Communication | Schloss Birlinghoven | D-53754 Sankt Augustin | Germany | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | tel:x49-2241-14-2809/-2511 | assist:-2585 | fax:-2133 | mobile:01719751422 | MARS - Media Arts Research Studies: http://imk.gmd.de/mars | Communication of Art Technology: http://netzspannung.org | cast01 Conference: September 21./22, 2001 http://netzspannung.org/cast01 | -- Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2001 13:50:56 +0100 From: robert adrian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Carl Loeffler (was: net art history) Hi Robin I'm beginning to think I imagined his death. I know I read an obit somewhere, probably Wired News, but searches have brought no mention. Yeh ... was in NYC last week (sorry I didn't get a chance to visit the Thing office) and asked a few people about Carl ... nobody knew more than that they'd heard he'd died. Now that I think about it, they were all probably Nettime readers and had read your report - hmmm. In the meantime I'm trying to find Fred Truck - an artist/programmer, based in Des Moines, who worked with Carl setting up ArtCom on the Well in '86. I know they worked together on other projects so maybe he knows something ... if I can find him. There's not much from him past 1996. If my report of his death was exaggerated I apologize. Even if that is the case it's still
Re: FLUXLIST: nw lngo
The European Commission has just announced an agreement whereby English will be the official language of the EU rather than German which was the other possibility. As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government conceded I think there are much more nativ german speakers than english in EU. And there is more than one "official language"... I knew the text and it wasnt very funny anymore. Reminded me of my criticism of this list, that it is so much about blabla.
Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas
At 15:14 Uhr -0500 13.03.2001, Kathy Forer wrote: It's quite poignant how the absence of the Buddhas is nearly as powerful as was their presence. Think there are less people now too, and nobody cared. Fluxus, luxus.
Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas
have been tortured with medieval techniques, can't show the face to people are slaves of husbands. without husband they are get throw the streets begging for money... m, this is a human problem to deale behind the stone budhas Yeah. But this seems to be much the same in all traditional arab countries, including Saudi Arabia etc.. Maybe it is different in Lybia. ...pez
Re: FLUXLIST: Buddhas
We, the undersigned, plead for an immediate end to the Taliban edict to demolish Afghanistan's cultural heritage. We further urge the Taliban spiritual leader Mullah Mohammed Omar to enter into dialogue with the international community - including the Arab and Islamic governments that overwhelmingly have condemned these actions - in order to explore proposals to safeguard this irreplaceable cultural heritage from further, senseless destruction. The edict of the 26 th of February 2001 to destroy pre-Islamic and Buddhist objects-including the world's largest standing Buddha statues at Bamiyan-runs counter to all the basic principles of respect, tolerance and the wisdom upon which Islam is based, and is a breach of the Taliban pledge made in 1999. We plead with Taliban authorities to stop this irreversible assault on two millennia of Afghanistan's artistic and cultural achievements, treasured not only as the spiritual birthright of Buddhists everywhere but also as a universal cultural heritage for people of all faiths and nationalities. May the stones survive.
Re: FLUXLIST: 1 : h o t : m i n - sound : project
Ok. Good idea. On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, zap strassburger wrote: 1 : h o t : m i n___email : sound : project : 2001 one hot minute Hello everyone, I'm planning a collaborative soundpiece and am looking for contributors !!! The plan is: someone starts out with one minute of sound/music in mp3 and sends ist to the next person, who adds something to the mix without lenghtening it and so on (like you did with midi). Voilà, in the end we have a complex international one-minute-piece consisting of influences all over the world. Everything is allowed as long as you add something. (of course nobody seriously thought about removing) So far, so good! The only catch to it: I would really like the mp3 to be in cd-quality (128kbps / stereo / 44kHz) meaning a file size of ~950kb. WAIT I can hear you protest !!! You are right, BUT the great advantage is: We could add tiny little noises which won't get lost to the last contributor, and it will be broadcastable / burnable if anyone so desires! No sound gets lost during en/decoding, every crackle counts. We have the whole palette from left to right and 50Hz to 20kHz. Technical: For those who fear large email-attachments we could alternatively set up a freedrive-account or something, so that every paticipant could download the piece and check the current progress. Okay, hope you're hot now! Don't hesitate a minute and be a part of it. zap strassburger www.aboutblank.org
FLUXLIST: Sendewarteschlangenlaenge
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FLUXLIST: =?x-unknown?q?Re=3A_FLUXLIST=3A_M=D03=EA=EE=E2=EE=E4=E8=F2=E5=EB=FE?=
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Re: FLUXLIST: Sound Thanks
although I remember Heiko mentioning that his encoder would do 8), however Yeah. Telephone quality.. Check http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/stanfor4.mp3 , around 20 minutes, around 1 MB... I think 128 kbits/sec is what people call CD quality
Re: FLUXLIST: Sound Request
I have tried to get some sound on the web site, but have come to a bit of a halt 'couse I can't find a (free) utility to convert from CD to PM3 or WAV files. I may have to just re-record a bit into .wav use that, but we still want to convert to pm3 to offer the stuff for sale don't we ? Think he means mp3. cdda is the utility for "ripping" CDs. But I am not very much into this on Windows, I use SCSI and tosha. I am shure, an altavista search with "CD" and "ripping" and "Windows" helps. H.
FLUXLIST: [silence] Between Sound and Vision, Cage and sound art events inChicago (fwd)
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:42:12 -0600 From: Monica Kendrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [silence] Between Sound and Vision, Cage and sound art events in Chicago just passing this along. X-Originating-IP: [170.248.66.33] From: "nathaniel /or les grecques anciens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Between Sound and Vision Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 15:17:18 - Mime-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Feb 2001 15:17:19.0739 (UTC) FILETIME=[E5BA6CB0:01C0904F] Status: For Immediate Release **BETWEEN SOUND AND VISION** Studies in aural representation of the visual / visual representations of the aural. Bursting onto the international art scene from what seemed like nowhere, sound art has captured the imaginations of curators and scholars alike. "Between Vision and Sound" explores how one branch of contemporary art has roots in little-known work from the group of experimental artists loosely assosiated with the extended circle of experimental composers, performance artists, visual artists and poets around composer, John Cage. Since the 1970's, compositions from Cage's watershed anthology of visual music scores, "Notations" (Something Else Press, 1969), have been tucked away in the Northwestern University Music Library. These remarkable, hand-drawn, written and colored documents are rarely seen and almost never heard. These original works, many of which were composed specifically for Cage's book, come from Pierre Boulez, the Beatles, Charles Ives, Allan Kaprow, Yoko Ono, Nam June Paik, Steve Reich, Karlheinz Stockhausen, Iannis Xenakis, and many others. Remarkable for their visual impact alone, this collection of handwritten, avant-garde compositions demonstrates the peculiar power of the liminal dimension that links seeing and hearing, effectively ushering the viewer/listener into the interstitial space between music and visual art. Cuarator Hannah B Higgins of UIC has mounted an exhibition at Gallery 400 of these scores, presented with their premier recordings. In addition to the historic scores, "Between Vision and Sound" includes contemporary works in this vital tradition. These works range from the sculptural instruments of Jeremy Boyle, Heri Dono, David Dunn, Matt Heckett, Joe Jones, Alison Knowles, Charlotte Moorman, Ed Osborne, Paul Panhuysen, Minoru Sato, Dan Senn, Carol Sysmanski, Achim Wollscheid, Hildegard Westerkamp to graphic notation by Kenneth Goldsmith, Dick Higgins, Jack Ox, and Dan Senn. Altogether, "Between Vision and Sound" offers a multisensory experience of the variety of Cage's legacy. A resulting CD will accompany the show's catalog, lectures, special concerts, web site, and community outreach programs. :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 14.FEB-10.MAR.2001 Between Sound Vision Gallery Exhibit featuring: + work by Kenneth Goldsmith, Max Neuhaus, Phil Niblock, Achim Wollscheid, Paul Panhuysen, Jeremy Boyle, Dick Higgins + the exhibition of original manuscript scores from the John Cage/Alison Knowles book "Notations" + premier recordings of scores from "Notations" by Guillermo Gregorio, Gene Coleman, Fred Lonberg-Holm, TVPOW, Nathaniel Braddock, Brennan Mcgaffey. Gallery400 (400 S. Peoria) Tues-Fri 10-5, Sat 12-5 :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 11.FEB.2001 SUNDAY Graphic Pieces from the John Cage/Alison Knowles book "Notations" featuring, George Flynn, Jeremy Boyle, Brennan Mcgaffey, Greg Hamilton, Carol Genetti performing pieces by George Flynn, Alison Knolwes, Tomas Marco, Steve Reich, Malcolm Goldstein, others, plus a discussion by George Flynn of his work and the New York scene at the time of the book's compilation HotHouse (31 E. Balbo) 4.00pm :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 11.FEB.2001 SUNDAY "Something Else" with Philip von Zweck Nathaniel Braddock-Jeremy Boyle on air performance WLUW 88.7 FM. 10:30pm :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 13.FEB.2001 TUESDAY Lecture/Performance by Eric Andersen Gallery400 (400 S. Peoria) 5.00p :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 15.FEB.2001 THURSDAY Openning Ceremony for Between Sound Vision featuring Fluxus performances by Eric Andersen, Alison Knowles, Paul Panhuysen, and audience-directed composition/improvisation performance with Guillermo Gregorio, Jeremy Boyle, Nathaniel Braddock, Fred Lonberg-Holm, Brent Gutzeit, Scott Rosenberg, Jerome Bryerton, Todd Margasak Gallery400 (400 S. Peoria) 5.00-8.00pm :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 16.FEB.2001 FRIDAY LAMPO presents Achim Wollscheid 6ODUM (2116 W. Chicago) 10.00pm :.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.:.: 25.FEB.2001 SUNDAY NOTATIONS Units Graphic Pieces from the John Cage/Alison Knowles book "Notations" Performed by TVPOW, Guillermo Gregorio, Fred Lonberg-Holm, Nathaniel Braddock, Scott Rosenberg, Todd Margasak, Jerome Bryerton Pieces by Larry Austin, George Cacciopo, Philip Corner, James
Re: FLUXLIST: Gif for Christine.
London Underground is something special. On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, narvis ...pez wrote: hei!!ko thanks too much casually i saw this underground symbol yestarday in a tv frame of london (aol/cnn) ...pez At 11:25 am +0100 11/1/01, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Content-Type: IMAGE/GIF; name="tubelogo.gif" Content-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="tubelogo.gif" Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:tubelogo.gif (GIFf/JVWR) (00015B61)
FLUXLIST: Gif for Christine.
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Re: FLUXLIST: Anti Spam Sotlution ?
Hi, found a way to reply effectively to this abusive business practices. Dont reply. There are usenet newsgroups on this tropic. Or see activities like www.orbs.org (which has been maybe worse.) Thats the internet we have today, Christina WANG did a timepiece on this here. H.
Re: FLUXLIST: Anti Spam Sotlution ?
Thats the internet we have today, Christina WANG did a timepiece on this Sorry: Christine. Anyway, happy holidays.
FLUXLIST: Watch Blatv..
Make "movies", use m3u until Bill Gates supports mgu files. http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ H.
Re: FLUXLIST: vrml-poem-cube
Thanks ! I am not shure if I find the time to play in the way described but this was a software adventure game as it should be. Howto. Great. Which software did you use, could you tell us more about VRML ?? All I did was exporting stuff from blender and playing with the fishes that came with Cosmo... Best, H. On Thu, 21 Dec 2000, Xenon Ribcage-Uncle wrote: vrml-poem-cube lookup lookdown lookallaround http://www.hevanet.com/solipsis/VRML/k4152/k4152.htm to make your own download the files (just the wrl, html and one pic all you need) from the root directory (left it unindexed) making the wrl file open the WRL file with a text editor change the names of the pictures to your files (which you would make) but leave the _UP or _DN etc... making the pics (6 of them) take one of the pictures mk yr pic on top to keep the nice sqr shp rename it newfile_UP.jpg etc until you have all 6 rename the wrl file to myfile.wrl open the html file with text editor change the line of the old wrl to your new one load it all onto your server pull up the html file which the wrl will be embedded in.. pretty .. monkey make virtupoem box
Re: FLUXLIST: Nostradamus
In the home of greatest power, The village idiot will come forth To be acclaimed the leader. Whoever this is.. Anyway, watch blatv ! At: http://www.uni-bonn.de/~uzs106/ H.
Re: FLUXLIST: To Name
A lot of people found joseph very, very correct in the 1970s Why ? Just the artmarket ? H.
Re: FLUXLIST: To Name
Fluxus was probably the most political incorrect you could be in the '60s. In which sense ? I remember seeing some John Lennon docu, well Yoko Ono etc, asking myself how such a stupid person could make such great music. Maybe the slogans would be differenmt today, hopefully. H.
