Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-27 Thread Allan Revich
fluxus
sex

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From: allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL
NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL


 in the email today...

 Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be in
opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the ones
that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just a
misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not saying
here that it's missing anything.  It's just that of all the things I love
a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.  Or am I
missing something?  Allen



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BURLESQUE FESTIVAL


  Thirsty Girl  Pontani Productions Proudly Present
 
 
  THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL
  May 14th - May 16th
 
 
  3 Days of Glitter  Glamour in Gotham
 
 
  Starring over 40 of Today's Premiere Burlesque Performers in 4 hot
  NYC Venues.  Some of 2004 Festival highlights will include
  performances by, The World Famous Pontani Sisters (NYC), Dirty
  Martini (NYC), Torchy Taboo (At), Erochicha Bamboo (Japan),  Ginger
  Goldmine (LA),The World Famous *BOB* (NYC), Skin Tight Outta Sight
  (Canada), Lavender Cabaret (Chicago) and many more.
 
  Friday, May 14th, The Premiere Party @ The Pussycat Lounge, 36
  Greenwich St, 9pm-close Celebrate the premiere of the 2nd Annual NY
  Burlesque festival at the ever-titillating Pussycat Lounge with
  host, Scotty the Blue Bunny!
  Saturday May 15th: This or That - America's Favorite Game Show @
  Sideshows by The Seashore in Coney Island. Hosted by the Great
  Fredini and Julie Atlas Muz, This or That! is America's first
  Burlesque TV game show!
 
  *Saturday, May 15th:The Saturday Spectacular! @ Avalon, 47 W 20th
  Street, 7pm-12am Don't miss the spotlight event of this year's
  festival.  We will be hosting an all-star line up of over 40
  accomplished performers from across the nation.  The legendary
  Murray Hill will emcee this fabulous main event!
 
  Sunday, May 16th: Burlesque Brunch  The Goldern Pastie Awards @
  The Cutting Room, 19w 24th Street, 1pm-3pm Join us and saucy
  hostess Miss Astrid, for the ever-entertaining Burlesque Brunch and
  the 1st Annual Golden Pastie Awards at The Cutting Room.
 
  NYBF Fabulous Sponsors include:  Sylk Cream, Rheingold Beer, The
  Museum of Sex, GO-NYC Magazine, The Onion, Bust Magazine  Lola
  Staar
 
  For a complete lineup  tickets visit
  www.thenewyorkburlesquefestival.com







FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread allen bukoff
in the email today...

Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be in opposite corners 
(or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus performances/objects/games/activities 
devoid of sexuality--even the ones that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  
(or is that just a misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not 
saying here that it's missing anything.  It's just that of all the things I love a 
lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.  Or am I missing 
something?  Allen



--- Original Message ---
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Sent: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:37:35 -0400
Subject: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE 
FESTIVAL


 Thirsty Girl  Pontani Productions Proudly Present


 THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL
 May 14th - May 16th


 3 Days of Glitter  Glamour in Gotham


 Starring over 40 of Today’s Premiere Burlesque Performers in 4 hot
 NYC Venues.  Some of 2004 Festival highlights will include
 performances by, The World Famous Pontani Sisters (NYC), Dirty
 Martini (NYC), Torchy Taboo (At), Erochicha Bamboo (Japan),  Ginger
 Goldmine (LA),The World Famous *BOB* (NYC), Skin Tight Outta Sight
 (Canada), Lavender Cabaret (Chicago) and many more.

 Friday, May 14th, The Premiere Party @ The Pussycat Lounge, 36
 Greenwich St, 9pm-close Celebrate the premiere of the 2nd Annual NY
 Burlesque festival at the ever-titillating Pussycat Lounge with
 host, Scotty the Blue Bunny!
 Saturday May 15th: This or That - America's Favorite Game Show @
 Sideshows by The Seashore in Coney Island. Hosted by the Great
 Fredini and Julie Atlas Muz, This or That! is America’s first
 Burlesque TV game show!

 *Saturday, May 15th:The Saturday Spectacular! @ Avalon, 47 W 20th
 Street, 7pm-12am Don't miss the spotlight event of this year's
 festival.  We will be hosting an all-star line up of over 40
 accomplished performers from across the nation.  The legendary
 Murray Hill will emcee this fabulous main event!

 Sunday, May 16th: Burlesque Brunch  The Goldern Pastie Awards @
 The Cutting Room, 19w 24th Street, 1pm-3pm Join us and saucy
 hostess Miss Astrid, for the ever-entertaining Burlesque Brunch and
 the 1st Annual Golden Pastie Awards at The Cutting Room.

 NYBF Fabulous Sponsors include:  Sylk Cream, Rheingold Beer, The
 Museum of Sex, GO-NYC Magazine, The Onion, Bust Magazine  Lola
 Staar

 For a complete lineup  tickets visit
 www.thenewyorkburlesquefestival.com




Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread colagiov
Alan,
have you seen Orfice Flux Plugs by Larry Miller 1974, a fluxkit Hannah Higgins 
talks about in her book Fluxus Experience (p.34)
she states,the scale of the individual plugs invites the user to hold and finger 
them: to unroll condoms; to consider soft, small plugs for insertion into the nose 
ear, vagina, or anus; to examine statuettes that might enter any orifice of the 
user.  Where would this fit?As well, on the cover of the Orfice Flux Plugs kit 
the label has a photo of a finger inserted into an anus.  
Also, I remember reading in Games at the Cedilla, George Brecht or Robert 
Filliou stating that all sex at the cedilla happens in groups.
How about the performance where they pee into a metal bucket and whoever 
pees the longest wins (sorry, i can't remember the title)
anyway, i don't think fluxus is devoid of sexuality, i don't think i would go so far 
as to call it erotic though.

-david



Quoting allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 in the email today...

 Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be
 in  opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus  
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the
 ones  that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just
 a  misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not
 saying  here that it's missing anything.  It's just that of all the things
 I love  a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.
 Or am  I missing something?  Allen




RE: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread Don Boyd
I think you are missing something, Allen. -Don
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Re: FLUXLIST: Fwd: Museum of Sex is proud to co-sponsor THE 2nd ANNUAL NEW YORK BURLESQUE FESTIVAL

2004-04-26 Thread Drew Danielson
Please correct away if I say anything that strikes you as wrong, but my 
impression of fluxus is that it generally has a familial or congenial 
flavor to it.  It's more demonstrative than evocative.  Its mystery, to 
me, doesn't induce me to want to demystify it, but to leave it be as it 
is.  Its subject is more often of needs than of desires, or perhaps more 
of what we expect than of what we demand.  It certainly can be visceral 
and sensual, but most often in terms of the 5 non-groinal senses.

I feel something parental or fraternal/sororal* when I get the feel of 
fluxus.  As the man said, it's not non-sexual, but for the most it's not 
erotic.


* the dictionary did not reveal to me a non-gendered word that means 
something like 'siblingly'.  This should be remedied.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan,
have you seen Orfice Flux Plugs by Larry Miller 1974, a fluxkit Hannah Higgins 
talks about in her book Fluxus Experience (p.34)
she states,the scale of the individual plugs invites the user to hold and finger 
them: to unroll condoms; to consider soft, small plugs for insertion into the nose 
ear, vagina, or anus; to examine statuettes that might enter any orifice of the 
user.  Where would this fit?As well, on the cover of the Orfice Flux Plugs kit 
the label has a photo of a finger inserted into an anus.  
Also, I remember reading in Games at the Cedilla, George Brecht or Robert 
Filliou stating that all sex at the cedilla happens in groups.
How about the performance where they pee into a metal bucket and whoever 
pees the longest wins (sorry, i can't remember the title)
anyway, i don't think fluxus is devoid of sexuality, i don't think i would go so far 
as to call it erotic though.

-david

Quoting allen bukoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

in the email today...
Question:  why does SEX/sensuality/eroticism and Fluxus seem to be
in  opposite corners (or is it just me)?  Are/were historical Fluxus  
performances/objects/games/activities devoid of sexuality--even the
ones  that seemed to address gender or sexuality issues  (or is that just
a  misreading on my part)?  Don't get me wrong, I love Fluxus, I not
saying  here that it's missing anything.  It's just that of all the things
I love  a lot, Fluxus seems to have the least sex or sexuality in its soul.
Or am  I missing something?  Allen