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Hey Alan!!! The art part I have to think about more (this is good!!! The thinking!!!) The poetry part is easier - my favorite is I MUST LAUGH AT LIFE CAT DOG GOD I'm putting it on my fridge, although maybe I should get capital letters first. Sounds like you had a resoundingly excellent fridgepoetry party. Wish I could have been there - but, there in spirit. Bless!! P. Petal, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all! just a quick query, if i wanted to do a sort of cv ov my 'art' (and i use the term very loosely) based stuff - what form should it take? a list of performances and projects undertaken, installations etc - like the big stuff... or a list of everything ? what do i leave in and leave out? HELP!!(please) Also did anyone bother with the 4am poetry page? just that my italian friends have been asking - they were very chuffed with their english poetry - it was an interesting evening. has anyone else seen the fridge poetry packs you can buy? you can waste hours sitting in front of the fridge! maybe i should just get out more eh? bests alan
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Alan, Merriam Webster says: Main Entry: curriculum vitae Pronunciation: k-'ri-ky-lm-'vE-"tI, -k-lm-, -'wE-"tI, -'vI-"tE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural curricula vitae /-l-/ Etymology: Latin, course of (one's) life Date: 1902 : a short account of one's career and qualifications prepared typically by an applicant for a position (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary) dictionary.com says: 1.curriculum vitae (k-rky-lm vt, vt, k-rk-lm wt) n., pl. curricula vitae (-l.) Abbr. CV A summary of one's education, professional history, and job qualifications, as for a prospective employer. [Latin the race of life: curriculum, course + vitae, genitive of vita, life.] 2.curriculum vitae n : a summary of your academic and work history [syn: resume] (http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=curriculum%20vitae) My thoughts are that not many people have only one CV (or rsum, or whatever). But rather, since an artist's CV is always developing, it can be seen as temporary... and also as audience specific. Is there a specific reason for putting the thing together? if it is not for a specific person or event, then there is always at least an imagined ideal audience. otherwise, why commit the communicative act of making a CV available in the first place? Once the intended audience is more clear, it might also be more clear (hopefully) which projects would be appropriate to present on the CV you make available to that audience. A CV, like other auto-promotional devices, is a networking, but also a narrative, tool for the presentation of self. it is a balance between what a person would like to present themselves as, and what they believe they can get away with presenting themselves as. sometimes it can be helpful in either figuring out, or articulating, a person's presented self-image. in this sense, a CV can also be seen as a construction, both of the document itself and of the documenter. Putting together a CV is a means to accomplish a goal, to communicate a message about ourselves to others, but writing the CV itself is also one of the many languaging acts through which we construct our identities as employees, as writers, as academics, as artists, and/or whatever. the whole question is, how do you want to sell yourself? or show yourself, or narrate your self image to the audience(s) you have in mind? and then each CV should include the experiences, accomplishments, activities (etc.) that describe the version of yourself (or character) you want to depict (and create). there's nothing wrong with excluding the things (for now) that don't fit. everyone does more than they choose to take credit for at each specific occasion (such as on a CV), and everyone is expected to exaggerate the qualities (etc) that they want to highlight. once this kind of thing is accepted by the person writing the CV ( not necessarily by those reading it), then this can be used to the writer's advantage. one major part of the job description for artists of the last century has been to 'reveal' the constructed nature of nearly everything in their culture, especially those conventions which can be seen as problematic or limiting in one way or another. the CV itself would probably be an interesting place to reveal it's constructed nature, in the form of an artwork... but something like this might come off as reflecting only the artist personally, rather than the practice as a whole. It is at least partly for this reason that most artists who want any support from the world around them tend to use their CV's for their own purposes, as I mentioned above, and save the deconstructing for other cultural phenomena... less close to home. most of this is probably obvious, and some of it might sound a bit cynical. but I don't think all of it is. either way, I'm probably just using this as a distraction from all of the work I have to do today. I have a wedding to co-assemble, remember? yes, time is drawing near... I should get back to it. p.s. do you still want to meet in venice? sincerely, Scott - BaseKamp Site 215.592.7288 723 chestnut st second floor phila pa 19106 http://www.basekamp.com/ "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" wrote: hi all! just a quick query, if i wanted to do a sort of cv ov my 'art' (and i use the term very loosely) based stuff - what form should it take? a list of performances and projects undertaken, installations etc - like the big stuff... or a list of everything ? what do i leave in and leave out? HELP!!(please) Also did anyone bother with the 4am poetry page? just that my italian friends have been asking - they were very chuffed with their "english" poetry - it was an interesting evening. has anyone else seen the fridge poetry packs you can buy? you can waste hours sitting in front of the fridge! maybe i should just get out more eh? bests alan
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I only have Duck Stab. Perhaps we could trade tapes-- I did see an installation they did re the Mole People, w/ music. Pretty fun and brilliant, in a slightly darker Krazy Kat tradition. AK -- From: primate _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:01 PM I do I do! I have there pop album and I have access to a couple more... Nick All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums? AK -- From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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YOu mean Vileness Fats? Have you seen that film? that is an excellent movieohh nights of acid and residents bring back memoried of music makin... NIck email me in private ok? I only have Duck Stab. Perhaps we could trade tapes-- I did see an installation they did re the Mole People, w/ music. Pretty fun and brilliant, in a slightly darker Krazy Kat tradition. AK -- From: primate _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 11:01 PM I do I do! I have there pop album and I have access to a couple more... Nick All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums? AK -- From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Heiko Recktenwald wrote: with 16 or so, is Julie Driscoll. Yep, together with Brian Auger and the Trinity. Some hits and then some kind of early Carla Bley, "1969". And Free Jazz Sol probably knows more. "Swinging London." Maybe this has some fluxus content... I've got a vinyl procured from a garage sale that I've worn to death called "Encore" Brian Auger Julie Tippetts. Recorded October and November 1977 at Different Fur Studios, San Francisco. Cover says, about Julie Tippetts: "Schooled on Oscar Brown, Nina Simone and Miles Davis, she also learned her lessons well. As the focal point of The Trinity, Julie Driscoll helped direct their completemely anomalous role in middle 60's pop...Julie's superb jazz phrasing, her husky bluesish bent and the improvisational nature of Brian's playing were being taken into account. It was an exciting time...She's worked on and off with her husband keyboardist Keith Tippetts, in his 52-piece free-form orchestra, Centipede, and in a four-piece dedicated to unwritten performance called Ovary Lodge. With four other singers early in '77 she formed the vanguard vocal ensemble Voice, whose repertoire of composed and improvised music has proven an particular hit on the Continent..." Joe Robinson I'm back from out of town and just catching up on messages - there may be something later on her on fluxlist, but, I would love to find out what Julie Tippetts is up to - she is one of the finest vocalists I've ever heard, and if I could actually find the vinyl that belongs in the album cover and play it, it would still be more than timely. PK
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Trout Mask Replica Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection. I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several years now as well. Myke
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"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. RA Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote: Trout Mask Replica Shiny Beast (Bat Chain Puller) Wow... Those are the two Captain Beefheart CDs in my collection. I've thought about getting "Safe As Milk" for several years now as well. Myke
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Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Yes, I know of John McLaughlin if you mean the guitarist who studied Eastern music and did jazz fusion. Same guy? Yep ! From England. He did some nice music in 69 with Tony Williams Lifetime. "Emergency" was one of my favourite music some years ago. Yeah, have heard of Tony Williams too, the drummer. I never really spent much time listening to fusion. It has sort of a bad reputation among more purist jazz musicians. More of a post-bop man myself: Monk, Ornette Coleman etc. then all the New York improvisational stuff (80's). Then Fred Frith and his sort of idiosyncratic activities and projects. But that was a couple of years ago and I've lost track of it all at this point. RA
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"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. That's pretty much in line with the things I've read about it in the past. I think there is a review of the CD in an old Rolling Stone somewhere in my collection from when it first came out. Myke
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"Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ?
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Yeah, have heard of Tony Williams too, the drummer. I never Fred Frith etc, music with shaver. Its difficult to say that Lifetime is fusion. He was the drummer of...and its a trio, John Mc, and Organ. What later became "fusion" wasnt yet developed. The other tape I heard those day was the soundtrack of Blow Up, definitely fluxus, isnt it ;-)
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All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums? AK -- From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ?
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Heiko Recktenwald wrote: More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ? center Yeah, I got that. /center In fact it's about the only thing I've gotten lately: all these invisible jim-beam zen fluxbunnies, spasmodically original coding artifacts and idiosyncratic mechanization circular breathing I just don't get it. Harumph. Hari, hare, hear truth. Take a right at the next star, then straight on 'til moonshine. I'll do a tape trade of "I"/"thou"/-"U" for anything I've probably never heard, even in the distant past. Birthday yesterday: I told my cousin who should know better that I was ten years younger than I was, just for the hell of it. Funny, she about believed me. I went on to tell other people and no one seemed to object. I think they're offended to think I'm really ten years older than they'd like to think I am; but there, that's it, that's the way it is.
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I do I do! I have there pop album and I have access to a couple more... Nick All right, get serious about obscurity. Who has any Residents albums? AK -- From: Heiko Recktenwald [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Thursday, March 30, 2000 10:26 AM "Safe As Milk" was Beefheart's first album. Produced by Ry Cooder. In my opinion, his style is not as fully developed as on later albums like Trout Mask or Doc at the Radar Station. I have Mirror Man. 1965 ? More on pop music: has anybody "U" of Incredible String Band ? __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Of course I've heard of Sun Ra and his Cosmic Arkestra but never Graham Bond. Who Father of "Graham Bond Organisation". I dont remember all the groups and people he played with. A certain strangeness. He didnt make so much ado about space etc like Sun Ra, but he lived in a different world, sotosay, too. Maybe there in a rock music dictionary somewhere near you. I only have a tape somewhere. Radio feature. Or lets put it this way: an important figure in the british rockscene of the 60s and early 70s who played with.. Another important person, together with Keith T. in a public telephone cell phoning with the children somewhere in europe, she had her greatest hits with 16 or so, is Julie Driscoll. And there is Laura Nyro. In the USA. I think "Graham Bond Organisation" was one of the first bands of John McLaughlin. Has anybody records of this ? The space, escalator over the hill, wonderwall. Etcpp. H.
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Anne, Sol and all, All this talk about jazz etc. reminds me of the things I listened to in college. Anyone ever heard of Rhashan Roland Kirk? I always liked his music a lot. It was very comical and he used to play three horns at once. RA Ann Klefstad wrote: -- From: Davidson Gigliotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:22 PM Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. I saw him in a tiny hall in Santa Monica. The thing about him and his very large Arkestra is that they all lived together for 30 years out in the country, and played together all the time, so they were like a single entity, doing improvisations of a complexity and supernatural tightness that were incredible. His use of common-and-garden popular tunes in these amazingly orchestrated works was also intensely charming (viz Sol's Disney tunes album). A friend told me that he saw Sun Ra blowing a note for many minutes on end (circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg. I have the album Space is the Place, and some others. He was one of the wonders of the world. AK
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with 16 or so, is Julie Driscoll. And there is Laura Nyro. In the USA. I've heard of Laura Nyro of course but never actually heard her music. Its a pity. I'm not familiar with at all, probably because she's European. You mean she had her greatest hits when she was 16? Yep, together with Brian Auger and the Trinity. Some hits and then some kind of early Carla Bley, "1969". And Free Jazz Sol probably knows more. "Swinging London." Maybe this has some fluxus content... Yes, I know of John McLaughlin if you mean the guitarist who studied Eastern music and did jazz fusion. Same guy? Yep ! From England. He did some nice music in 69 with Tony Williams Lifetime. "Emergency" was one of my favourite music some years ago.
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Reed Altemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes another important person, together with Keith T. in a public telephone cell phoning with the children somewhere in europe, she had her greatest hits with 16 or so, is Julie Driscoll. And there is Laura Nyro. In the USA. I've heard of Laura Nyro of course but never actually heard her music. Julie Driscoll I'm not familiar with at all, probably because she's European. You mean she had her greatest hits when she was 16? I think "Graham Bond Organisation" was one of the first bands of John McLaughlin. Has anybody records of this ? I saw Graham Bond on numerous occasions - Ginger Baker was drummer in the Organisation's earliest incarnation (Bond later played in Baker's post-Cream 'Airforce'). I'm not sue whether McLaughlin actually recorded with Bond though... He may be on an early live album they issued. Gerald O'Connell http://www.wonderport.com
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I saw Graham Bond on numerous occasions - Ginger Baker was drummer in the Organisation's earliest incarnation (Bond later played in Baker's post-Cream 'Airforce'). I'm not sue whether McLaughlin actually recorded with Bond though... He may be on an early live album they issued. The live album, which I had on 8-track long ago and really wish I could replace, was recorded after Dick Heckstall-Smith replaced McLaughlin. The only released tracks with McLauglin came out on a compliation in the 80s. (Something else I wish I could find.)
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Certainly Rasahn was wonderful, though comical isn't quite how I'd describe it--he has his moments of wit but also of grandeur and also of just superb tastiness. I have a couple of his albums, vinyl of course, I'd have to look them up. It's been a while. AK Also I liked Captain Beefheart very much, I remember buying trout mask, jeez, 25 years ago, and playing it over and over. Wandered off now, I'm afraid. Shiny Beast is another good one (bat chain puller, you know) but that one was on my turntable when it was stolen some 15 years ago. At least I still have my Raincoats EP. -- From: Reed Altemus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2000 2:04 PM Anne, Sol and all, All this talk about jazz etc. reminds me of the things I listened to in college. Anyone ever heard of Rhashan Roland Kirk? I always liked his music a lot. It was very comical and he used to play three horns at once. RA Ann Klefstad wrote: -- From: Davidson Gigliotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:22 PM Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. I saw him in a tiny hall in Santa Monica. The thing about him and his very large Arkestra is that they all lived together for 30 years out in the country, and played together all the time, so they were like a single entity, doing improvisations of a complexity and supernatural tightness that were incredible. His use of common-and-garden popular tunes in these amazingly orchestrated works was also intensely charming (viz Sol's Disney tunes album). A friend told me that he saw Sun Ra blowing a note for many minutes on end (circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg. I have the album Space is the Place, and some others. He was one of the wonders of the world. AK
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college. Anyone ever heard of Rhashan Roland Kirk? I always liked his music a Didnt he invent this: (circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg. (Without the leg.) H.
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-- From: Davidson Gigliotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FLUXLIST: query Date: Tuesday, March 28, 2000 12:22 PM Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. I saw him in a tiny hall in Santa Monica. The thing about him and his very large Arkestra is that they all lived together for 30 years out in the country, and played together all the time, so they were like a single entity, doing improvisations of a complexity and supernatural tightness that were incredible. His use of common-and-garden popular tunes in these amazingly orchestrated works was also intensely charming (viz Sol's Disney tunes album). A friend told me that he saw Sun Ra blowing a note for many minutes on end (circular breathing), turning in a circle on one leg. I have the album Space is the Place, and some others. He was one of the wonders of the world. AK
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In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], BlackMonk (Tom,as always) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I saw Graham Bond on numerous occasions - Ginger Baker was drummer in the Organisation's earliest incarnation (Bond later played in Baker's post-Cream 'Airforce'). I'm not sue whether McLaughlin actually recorded with Bond though... He may be on an early live album they issued. The live album, which I had on 8-track long ago and really wish I could replace, was recorded after Dick Heckstall-Smith replaced McLaughlin. The only released tracks with McLauglin came out on a compliation in the 80s. (Something else I wish I could find.) That's right, Heckstall-Smith then joined the post Peter Green (he is continuing his rehabilitation from paranoid schizophrenia, I hear) John Mayall lineup. There were cries of 'traitor' and 'soul band' amongst angered blues fans when the horn section first appeared - obviously from people who had only ever heard the Anglicised Article then prevalent ! Gerald O'Connell http://www.wonderport.com
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Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.
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ah yes, i remember a wonderful concert in the '70's. sun ra in an old ballroom in baltimore. very fluxus i think, the ceiling was painted sky blue with big white clouds and there was sun ra and his group. outrageous. c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.
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Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. A friend of my past used to sing in his Solar Arkestra sometimes. He was very far out, too far for most jazz musicians of his day. He wasn't into hard bop so much, but something quite different. I have no CDs or records of his music, only dimly remembered images and sounds from his concerts. Davidson Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.
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I have been told MANY MANY times to listen to SUN RA...If Merzbow is influenced by him I have a feeling I will like him alot anyone wanna do a tape trade of some SUN RA for something? I have a VHS tape of MTV from about a decade ago featuring a Curt Loder MTV News report on Sun Ra. It has a fair amount of video footage of him and his wackies performing outdoors in, I think, NYC. It is by way of that report that I know of him at all. It was said that he'd been making music for 30+/- years and had a gazillion albums of his stuff released during that time. He says he's from another planet and came to Earth by way of UFO or something similar. Myke __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. A friend of my past used to sing in his Solar Arkestra sometimes. He was very far out, too far for most jazz musicians of his day. He Cool. I remember lying once on the bed and hearing some voyage to mars. I think I have an LP, that was once too long in the sun, still a minimoog solo to be listened, maybe if I put a little stone on the arm of the record player. Thats Thorens. I had a Scott before, insofar better. I trashed it, nobody wanted it, and I knew when I got this Thorens, the days of the LP are over. But: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? I asked for Graham Bond of "Egyptian Mantras" etc.. Cheers, btw, there is an excellent Sun Ra list at hearn, I think its www.hearn.nl or surfnet.nl, if you want to meet people who have all the concerts on tape ;-) H.
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Davidson I think his motto was "Space is the place." RA Davidson Gigliotti wrote: Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. A friend of my past used to sing in his Solar Arkestra sometimes. He was very far out, too far for most jazz musicians of his day. He wasn't into hard bop so much, but something quite different. I have no CDs or records of his music, only dimly remembered images and sounds from his concerts. Davidson Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.
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Heiko Of course I've heard of Sun Ra and his Cosmic Arkestra but never Graham Bond. Who is he anyways? RA Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.
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sadly i don't have any of his records or cd's either. just the memory of that one concert. c :) carol starr taos, new mexico, usa [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, Davidson Gigliotti wrote: Oh yes, I remember Sun Ra. A friend of my past used to sing in his Solar Arkestra sometimes. He was very far out, too far for most jazz musicians of his day. He wasn't into hard bop so much, but something quite different. I have no CDs or records of his music, only dimly remembered images and sounds from his concerts. Davidson Heiko Recktenwald wrote: Obscurity as programm, Sun Ra, Graham Bond, does anybody remember HIM ? was always going to write his definitive book about how Duchamp, Beuys and others were all Kabbala masters: sort of a Paul Lafoley/R.A. Wilson take on He is not the only one.