Ping

2003-09-03 Thread Peter B. West
Mail troubles.  Just testing.

Peter

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Re: Ping

2003-09-03 Thread Glen Mazza
Welcome back--You may wish to let Berin know about 
your email troubles--he tried multiple times to
contact you:

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-apache-generalm=106172165515361w=2

Glen


--- Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Mail troubles.  Just testing.
 
 Peter
 


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Re: encoding problem with Fo file

2003-09-03 Thread J.Pietschmann
sri vela wrote:
I have a fo file which has some special characters,
which are not being parsing by FOp and throwing
Invalid byte 1 of 1-byte UTF-8 sequence exception.
Can any one tell me how to fix this problem.please
have a look at the Fo file.It is throwing exception at
single quote which is used in Trey's word
There is no single quote.

?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
^^
  fo:block ...Treys Best 
Well, MS Word is lying: the XML is probably encoded in Windows CP1252
(or so). The fancy apostrophe (IIRC #x90; or #x91;) is not a valid
XML character in ISO-8859-1 encoding.
Admittedly, the error message is a bit misleading (but good for a
laugh).
J.Pietschmann



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RE: Place committers on inactive list?

2003-09-03 Thread Arved Sandstrom
 -Original Message-
 From: Bertrand Delacretaz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: September 2, 2003 2:49 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Place committers on inactive list?


 Le Mardi, 2 sep 2003, à 03:33 Europe/Zurich, Glen Mazza a écrit :
  ...Perhaps Karen, Arved and Bertrand should be added to
  the inactive list...

 No problem for me, I'd actually feel better being listed as inactive!

That would be realistic. I have no intentions of permanently leaving the
project, but I have been inactive for quite some time. I am just too busy in
other pursuits at the moment.

Arved


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Re: layout strategy packaging

2003-09-03 Thread Glen Mazza
Victor,

I'm inclined to keep 0.20.x out of 1.0.  There's too
much a risk that merging the two apps into one is
going to create a bunch of mush.  I don't have any
problem with maintaining both a development and a
release version--that's just about how every other
Apache team operates. 
 
Having studied both the PDF Renderer in the old and
the new architecture, and the AWT Renderer in the old
(so I could implement some of it in the new)--the
layout is incompatible with the Area Tree and the
Renderers.  You'd have to bring those in as well.  

Also, it is clear that the inventors of the 1.0 layout
system were quite knowlegable of the 0.20.x
system--they improved on it--for the 10% of it I
understand, it appears to be in every way a better
architecture (indeed, I would call *it* the 'simple'
package)--it just needs more work to be complete.

IMO multiple layout strategies have a value in two
cases:

(1.) Where (a) layout strategies follow different
philosophies, say one LS is for ultra-detailed
graphics, while the other is fast document generation,
and (b) these strategies are so significant that they
can't be handled by compiler switches.

or

(2.)  To allow/encourage committers like Peter, on
their own, to come up and test alternative designs
that may be better without needing to recode an entire
app.

0.20.x isn't satisfying these cases--because 1.0 is
designed to be better than it--(although, if/when
Peter returns, Alt-Design might).

Like you, I want to get more people--both developers
and users--into 1.0.  Perhaps another way of doing
that would be for you to sink your teeth into the 1.0
renderers--PDF, and feel free to lend me a hand in
AWT.  PDF might be 70% of our audience.  If we can get
1.0 PDF reasonably up to the level of 0.20.x--it's
maybe halfway there already--we will then have a
pretty good 1.0 user base.  Also, the work that you 
do for the PDF renderer--bouncing back and forth
between layout, the area tree, and its renderer--also
helps me with AWT because much of it is the same code.

Glen


--- Victor Mote [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Optimistically assuming for a moment that I can get
 the maintenance branch
 layout ported into the trunk world (I can almost


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cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs team.xml

2003-09-03 Thread gmazza
gmazza  2003/09/03 22:15:07

  Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs team.xml
  Log:
  Moved three committers to inactive status.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.13  +5 -46 xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/team.xml
  
  Index: team.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/team.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.12
  retrieving revision 1.13
  diff -u -r1.12 -r1.13
  --- team.xml  29 Jul 2003 16:50:49 -  1.12
  +++ team.xml  4 Sep 2003 05:15:07 -   1.13
  @@ -11,9 +11,7 @@
   section id=commit-active
 titleActive Committers/title
 ul
  -li id=bdlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Bertrand 
Delacr#x00E9;taz/link (BD)/li
   li id=cglink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Christian Geisert/link 
(CG)/li
  -li id=kllink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Karen Lease/link 
(KL)/li
   li id=klllink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Keiron Liddle/link 
(KLL)/li
   li id=jmlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jeremias 
M#x00E4;rki/link (JM)
 is a software engineer from Lucerne, Switzerland. He is currently 
enjoying a longer period of
  @@ -24,7 +22,6 @@
 with EDS in Arlington, Virginia, USA./li
   li id=wvmlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Victor Mote/link (WVM) 
is the founder and manager of jump href=http://www.outfitr.com;Enterprise 
Outfitters/jump, a business software company, and of jump 
href=http://www.portagepub.com;Portage Publications/jump, a republisher of old 
documents. Both are located in Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA./li
   li id=jplink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]J#x00F6;rg 
Pietschmann/link (JP)/li
  -li id=aslink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Arved Sandstrom/link 
(AS)/li
   li id=otlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Oleg Tkachenko/link 
(OT)/li
   li id=pbwlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Peter B. West/link 
(PBW)/li
 /ul
  @@ -40,23 +37,24 @@
 recent XML/XSL-FO convert, he has been nit-picking FAQs amp; assorted 
web 
 pages since his first webmaster position @brain.com in 1996. Most 
 important creation? Jeremy Logan Leeds was born June 18, 2002./li
  -lilink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Anton Tagunov/link/li
  -lilink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Zhong (George) Yi/link/li
 /ul
   /section
   section id=founder
 titleFounder/title
 pFOP was originally created and donated to the Apache Software Foundation 
by link href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]James Tauber/link. Information about him 
can be found at jump href=http://www.jtauber.com;his website/jump./p
   /section
  -section id=commit-former
  -  titleFormer Committers/title
  +section id=commit-inactive
  +  titleInactive Committers/title
 ul
   li id=kclink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Kelly Campbell/link/li
   li id=sclink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Steven Coffman/link/li
  +li id=bdlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Bertrand 
Delacr#x00E9;taz/link/li
   li id=telink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Tore Engvig/link/li
   li id=sglink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Stanislav 
Gorkhover/link/li
   li id=fjlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Fotis Jannidis/link/li
  +li id=kllink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Karen Lease/link/li
   li id=jnlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Jordan 
Naftolin/link/li
  +li id=aslink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Arved 
Sandstrom/link/li
   li id=eslink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Eric Schaeffer/link/li
   li id=awlink href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Art Welch/link/li
 /ul
  @@ -66,15 +64,12 @@
 table
   tr
 th/
  -  thBD /th
 thCG /th
  -  thKL /th
 thKLL/th
 thJM /th
 thGM /th
 thWVM/th
 thJP /th
  -  thAS /th
 thOT /th
 thPBW/th
   /tr
  @@ -82,19 +77,15 @@
 tdPMC representation/td
 td/
 td/
  -  td/
  -  td/
 tdX/td
 td/
 td/
 td/
 td/
  -  td/
 tdX/td
   /tr
   tr
 tdRelease manager/td
  -  td/
 tdX/td
 td/
 td/
  @@ -103,34 +94,26 @@
 td/
 td/
 td/
  -  td/
  -  td/
   /tr
   tr
 tdXSL-FO tree/td
 td/
  -  td/
  -  td/
 tdX/td
 td/
 td/
 td/
 td/
 td/
  -  td/
 tdX/td
   /tr
   tr
 tdLayout/td
 td/
  -  td/
  -  tdX/td
 tdX/td
 td/
 

RE: Place committers on inactive list?

2003-09-03 Thread Glen Mazza
Understood--I moved you three to our inactive list on
the team page--you're always committers, though, feel
free to move yourselves back to active when you're
ready to return.

Thanks!
Glen


--- Arved Sandstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Bertrand Delacretaz
   ...Perhaps Karen, Arved and Bertrand should be
 added to
   the inactive list...
 
  No problem for me, I'd actually feel better being
 listed as inactive!
 
 That would be realistic. I have no intentions of
 permanently leaving the
 project, but I have been inactive for quite some
 time. I am just too busy in
 other pursuits at the moment.
 
 Arved
 

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SVG Text layout/modification patch

2003-09-03 Thread Thomas DeWeese


   Sorry for the length of this note.

   This note is to prepare people for an upcoming commit.
I have modified the way the text bridge works to improve
the performance of text.  I can provide the patch for
current CVS to anyone who is interested.
   I will hold off on committing this until I get some
feed back from others but it's a fairly important improvement
over the current architecture.
Batik still passes all of it's regression tests.
However FOP's PDF transcoder will have issues because it
accesses the Attributed string properties in it's
replacement TextBridge (see below).  This brings me to my question.
How would people feel about moving the PDFTranscoder and
associated special purpose bridges to Batik?
I think this would help a lot of the ongoing issues we
have had keeping FOP/Batik in sync.  The major interface
between FOP/Batik should generally be at a higher level.  The
real problem is that there will be a circular dependency
that needs breaking.  Batik uses FOP's PDF Graphics for
PDF output (and that uses at the very least FOP Font stuff),
and FOP FO uses Batik to render SVG.  I don't know how to
resolve this right now but it seems like the right thing
to do eventually.
Anyway onto the gritty details:

In the past the Batik Text Bridge
would annotate the text element with individual properties
for fill (FOREGROUND), stroke (STROKE_PAINT), stroke-width,
underline/overline, etc (around 12 in total).  This required
relaying out the text when ever any of these properties
changed because there was no way to propagate the changes
through the complexities of BIDI etc.  This patch
replaces all those text attributes with one (PAINT_INFO)
that references a TextPaintInfo object that contains all
the various paint/stroke/underline etc values.
   The advantage of this approach is that Batik can now
swap the paint/stroke objects that the TextPaintInfo object
references to change these paint attributes.  This allows
us to update all these paint attributes without doing any
text layout just a repaint.  This also allows us to avoid
the current double layout when we create text elements.
We currently layout once to get geometry bounds then again
so we can associate the various paints (which may depend on
the text bounds, like gradients).
   The changes should be fairly minor in FOP (it actually
generally cleans up the code a bit).


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