Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 18:26, Robert Paris wrote: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=64by=threadfrom=486484 The conclusion seems to be 'don't even think about it'. Of course - it didn't dawn on me that PDF's have everything absolutely positioned - basically as though it were an image (of course with vector graphics). Yikes. There are a lot of PDF resources out there. Planet PDF comes to mind. http://www.planetpdf.com/ It sounds like you are going to live in the Adobe Acrobat world for a while. If your users are stuck in the Microsoft world, you won't be able to save them from themselves. There are alternatives to going from PDF to XSL-FO (which is what you asked). I find this a bit amusing in a Dilbertian sense. Our astronauts know how to drive to the office in a minivan. So we will be sending them to land on Mars in a spaceship shaped like a minivan. They can pull in to MacDonalds or Chili's to eat. So we'd better start developing an interplanetary fast-food drive-through restaurant. Will a Motel 6 fit in the Shuttle's cargo bay ? -- John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
J.Pietschmann wrote: Robert Paris wrote: The problem is I don't know of any Word reader that's really working (Apache's POI Word is not working), and from what you're telling me, reverse engineering a PDF is pretty much impossible. Does anyone have a solution? What about OpenOffice? The save file is gzipped XML. Have a look at forrest for samples on how to deal with it. M$ Word 2003 can save WordML, which a few people seem to be getting excited about. You may be able to transform it to XSL-FO. But I dont know if that helps, as your user base will likely be working with older versions of M$ Word. Chris - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
Robert Paris wrote: Here's the problem/need. I have users who know how to create PDFs and MS Word documents (only by using MS Word though). I have seen a pdf2svg tool that can convert your PDF to SVG, which FOP can read. Then put your information on top of that. I have only tested this as a proof-of-concept in case we needed to do the same. -- Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen ...plus...Tubular Bells! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
Do you know the name of that tool? From: Thorbjørn Ravn Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF? Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2004 10:23:18 +0100 Robert Paris wrote: Here's the problem/need. I have users who know how to create PDFs and MS Word documents (only by using MS Word though). I have seen a pdf2svg tool that can convert your PDF to SVG, which FOP can read. Then put your information on top of that. I have only tested this as a proof-of-concept in case we needed to do the same. -- Thorbjoern Ravn Andersen ...plus...Tubular Bells! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Find high-speed net deals comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
On Thu, 2004-02-05 at 12:33, Robert Paris wrote: Do you know the name of that tool? http://s.teoma.com/search?q=pdf2svgqcat=1qsrc=0Search.x=0Search.y=0Search=submit John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How Generate .fo file from PDF?
Can I generate a .fo file from a pdf file? Essentially going backwards? If not, does anyone know of a good source for doing that with Java? _ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 20:52, Robert Paris wrote: Can I generate a .fo file from a pdf file? Essentially going backwards? Probably not in any realistically useful way. People on this list can point you to software that can read the text in a PDF. From that point you could start to construct XML files, but this is probably not something you want to undertake lightly. [Would it be unkind for me to say: Yes, but you have to type it in first. ?] John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
You could use Adobe Illustrator to read PDF and save as SVG. I have not tried this and would recommend trying it yourself before buying a copy. -- Sean -- --- M. Sean Gilligan: Catalla Systems, Inc. : 831-439-9568 x11 --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
Probably not in any realistically useful way. People on this list can point you to software that can read the text in a PDF. From that point you could start to construct XML files, but this is probably not something you want to undertake lightly. Thanks, I would like to hear about those other options from people. Can you also tell me why you think it's unlikely to be useful? Why is it so hard to go back to fo or XML from PDF if the PDF structure fits so well with fo/xml? _ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=byoa/premST=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
On Wed, 2004-02-04 at 13:21, Robert Paris wrote: Probably not in any realistically useful way. People on this list can point you to software that can read the text in a PDF. From that point you could start to construct XML files, but this is probably not something you want to undertake lightly. Thanks, I would like to hear about those other options from people. I thought somebody would. There are libraries that help you read from PDF. As an example, Google search results for PDF files usually have an option to view the file as a PDF. That conversion is half the battle. You can convert the HTML to XHTML (if necessary) and that is easily transformed to XSL-FO according to another thread of this week. Of course, your document won't be in a helpfully structured XML form. Can you also tell me why you think it's unlikely to be useful? Why is it so hard to go back to fo or XML from PDF if the PDF structure fits so well with fo/xml? There was a thread about this last year: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=64by=threadfrom=486484 The conclusion seems to be 'don't even think about it'. Of course, you may have no choice. -- John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList?listId=64by=threadfrom=486484 The conclusion seems to be 'don't even think about it'. Of course - it didn't dawn on me that PDF's have everything absolutely positioned - basically as though it were an image (of course with vector graphics). Yikes. Here's the problem/need. I have users who know how to create PDFs and MS Word documents (only by using MS Word though). They CANNOT use XML or anything remotely like they - they need buttons to click and boxes to fill out. However, they need to be able to create templates for future PDFs (to be run through my program) from the Word or PDF documents they created. In other words, they can tell me, This is what I want it to look like, only by showing me the actual Word or PDF document. Then they have every section of text as changeable (that part's not a problem). HOWEVER, they need to be able to do this in real time - without needing to have me create an XML file that does what their PDF/Word doc has. The problem is I don't know of any Word reader that's really working (Apache's POI Word is not working), and from what you're telling me, reverse engineering a PDF is pretty much impossible. Does anyone have a solution? Of course, you may have no choice. -- John Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Check out the new MSN 9 Dial-up fast reliable Internet access with prime features! http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=dialup/homeST=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How Generate .fo file from PDF?
Robert Paris wrote: The problem is I don't know of any Word reader that's really working (Apache's POI Word is not working), and from what you're telling me, reverse engineering a PDF is pretty much impossible. Does anyone have a solution? What about OpenOffice? The save file is gzipped XML. Have a look at forrest for samples on how to deal with it. J.Pietschmann - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
