RE: Page Sequence Master

2005-02-03 Thread Victor Mote
Kumar Puppala wrote:

> Thanks Victor for your response. So did you have any 
> alternate approaches to resolve this issue in your application?

That depends on what you mean by "performance issue". If you have plenty of
memory, I don't think your performance speed will be adversely affected by
using one page-sequence. If you are running out of memory, probably your
least-expensive, quickest-to-implement solution is to run on a machine with
more memory. AFAIK, the commercial implementations use more memory than FOP,
but that may have changed.

Several releases ago, FOP needed to have the entire document in memory, not
just one page sequence. So the current state is a vast improvement over
that. One of the stated goals for FOP is to be able to process
page-sequences of arbitrary size, i.e. limited only by disk space instead of
memory. There have been pretty heated discussions among the developers about
how best to do this. The trick of course is to come up with a /general/
solution that works or can be made to work for all cases posed. The
constraints are significant. Consider the example of a table with auto
layout that is 1000 (or 50,000) pages long. You need to know what is going
on at both ends of that table to do the auto layout. IIUC, the three rewrite
efforts underway each use a different approach, and I don't think any of
them are yet complete, so it will be interesting to see what possibilities
develop.

I wish I had a better answer for you. Your second-best option (see
recommended option above) is probably to pick one of the rewrite efforts &
support it.

Victor Mote


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RE: Page Sequence Master

2005-02-03 Thread Puppala, Kumar (LNG-DAY)
Thanks Victor for your response. So did you have any alternate approaches to
resolve this issue in your application?

Thanks,
Kumar Puppala


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Kumar:

Victor answered my similar question last month (snipped below).

>Louis.Masters wrote:
>
>> In order to get around some memory issues, I am creating
>> multiple page sequences on my reports.  The problem is, every
>> time a new page sequence is created, a new page is created.
>> Is there any way I can tell FOP not to insert the page break
>> after the page sequence?
>>
>> I know it sounds _funny_ to not have page breaks when there
>> is a new page sequence, but I am just using the page
>> sequences to break up the memory use in FOP.
>
>No, there is no way to do what you are trying to do. Even putting the
>practical aspects aside (which are overwhelming), it would be a violation
of
>the XSL-FO standard.
>
>Victor Mote

-Lou


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I have a page sequence master defined as shown below:

 
 


This sequence holds good for each individual document in my application.
But
there are times when I need to generate multiple documents within a job and
so I use this sequence repeatedly and it works fine. The only problem is
that each time a new document is generated, it starts on a new page (since
we are starting a new sequence for this document). I am looking at some
option to control this. In some cases I want each individual document to
start on a new page but in other cases I would like my next document to
start off on the remaining empty page left out by my previous document.
Going with one big sequence containing all the documents might work but it
will be a performance issue as our documents can get real big. Any help to
solve this problem is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kumar Puppala


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Re: Page Sequence Master

2005-02-03 Thread Louis . Masters

Kumar:

Victor answered my similar question last month (snipped below).

>Louis.Masters wrote:
>
>> In order to get around some memory issues, I am creating
>> multiple page sequences on my reports.  The problem is, every
>> time a new page sequence is created, a new page is created.
>> Is there any way I can tell FOP not to insert the page break
>> after the page sequence?
>>
>> I know it sounds _funny_ to not have page breaks when there
>> is a new page sequence, but I am just using the page
>> sequences to break up the memory use in FOP.
>
>No, there is no way to do what you are trying to do. Even putting the
>practical aspects aside (which are overwhelming), it would be a violation
of
>the XSL-FO standard.
>
>Victor Mote

-Lou


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I have a page sequence master defined as shown below:

 
 


This sequence holds good for each individual document in my application.
But
there are times when I need to generate multiple documents within a job and
so I use this sequence repeatedly and it works fine. The only problem is
that each time a new document is generated, it starts on a new page (since
we are starting a new sequence for this document). I am looking at some
option to control this. In some cases I want each individual document to
start on a new page but in other cases I would like my next document to
start off on the remaining empty page left out by my previous document.
Going with one big sequence containing all the documents might work but it
will be a performance issue as our documents can get real big. Any help to
solve this problem is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kumar Puppala


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Re: page-sequence & master-name ?

2002-12-13 Thread Jeremias Maerki
"master-name" is incorrect in this case. "master-name" on page-sequence
is still Candidate-Recommendation syntax.  You have to use
"master-reference" instead, as the ZVON reference now correctly
indicates. I think it has been behind a long time but is correct now.

See also here: http://xml.apache.org/fop/faq.html#faq-N100C4

On 13.12.2002 10:46:56 Fabrizio Tringali wrote:
> I see everywhere in the examples the tag  master-name="someName">
> but my XMLSpy doesn't validate this
> tag according to
> http://zvon.org/xxl/xslfoReference/Output/el_page-sequence.html
> Which is the right way? If the above tag is correct why the validator throws
> exception?


Jeremias Maerki


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