Re: RE: Commercial Documents

2006-08-16 Thread andyrob_24_7
Any clues on how you achieve crop marks and bleeds? 

quoting.. pascal sanchos
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Our customers expect now more and more, so we can produce Hi quality PDF  
that are used for professional printing, including crop marks and bleeds  
(yes, FOP can do that, either v 0.20.5), etc...  


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Re: Commercial Documents

2006-08-16 Thread Jeremias Maerki
As Chris already said, FOP doesn't have anything built-in, yet, for this.
But other have managed by experimenting (Block-containers and SVG).
You'll find some information when you search the mailing list archives:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/maillist.html#fop-user-archive

On 16.08.2006 16:10:40 andyrob_24_7 wrote:
 Any clues on how you achieve crop marks and bleeds? 
 
 quoting.. pascal sanchos
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 Our customers expect now more and more, so we can produce Hi quality PDF  
 that are used for professional printing, including crop marks and bleeds  
 (yes, FOP can do that, either v 0.20.5), etc...  
 


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: RE: Commercial Documents

2006-08-09 Thread andyrob_24_7
Would you be able to outline how you achieve crops and bleeds.

This is something I thought was not possible in FOP, any help with this would 
be greatly appreciated. Sample xml-fo would be ideal.

thanks in advance

andy r

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Re: Commercial Documents

2006-08-09 Thread andyrob_24_7
Also, do you need to pay for a licence to use the FOP engine. Or is that just 
if you want to embed the code?

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Re: RE: Commercial Documents

2006-08-09 Thread andyrob_24_7
So you write content for your reports and sales docs in HTML then transform?

Do you ever combine multiple html files into one pdf?

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RE: Commercial Documents

2006-08-04 Thread Pascal Sancho
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 Are people using FOP to generate pdf documents for commercial 
 purposes? How successful has this been. What are the cost 
 savings of this route?

Hi Andy,

We hardly use FOP since 2003 with very great satisfaction in a
commercial environment.

Our customers expect now more and more, so we can produce Hi quality PDF
that are used for professional printing, including crop marks and bleeds
(yes, FOP can do that, either v 0.20.5), etc...

IMO, the main advantages of FOP are:
- high flexibility (we always find a solution to a specific request);
- high availability (we can include FOP in various solutions);
- great community help  solidarity (no price for that!);
- very very active project;
- etc.

Final pricing depends on how you imagine your solution:
when combined to an easy-to-use dtd, an easy-to-use back-office, and
simple principles of writing, you should be able to free more than 50%.

Pascal

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Re: Commercial Documents

2006-08-04 Thread Louis . Masters

Andy:

We have used FOP (since 0.18) for all
of our report and document generation and have been very happy with the
feature set and support from this group.

Some of the docs we produce using FOP:

Bills of Lading
Manifests
FCRs
Commercial Invoices
Export Decs (US and Chinese)
Contracts

We also produce several hundred different
reports using FOP and its peripheral technology base (Xalan,
Batik, etc.) and have little or no complaints from our customer base.

If you need more or want some examples,
email me offline and I can provide them to you.

-Lou


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Re: Commercial Documents

2006-08-04 Thread Holger Dehnhardt
Hi Andy,

we are currently in the process of migrating about 30 branchoffices to a new 
software. I wrote an xml based documentserver [1] which is using fop (0.20.5) 
for printing and previewing reports. 
We have printed about some 10,000 invoices, orders and all kind of business 
papers since then and I am really happy with that solution.
We used Crystal Reports before and in my opinion nearly solutions with fop are 
faster and better - but sometimes I had to modify/extend fop (which is one of 
the reasons, I hesistate to change to the new Version...)

[1] http://documentserver.sourceforge.net/ 
(Be careful, information on the page is somewhat outdated - as always;-)

Holger

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Re: Commercial Documents

2006-08-03 Thread Jay Bryant
Yessir. I help my clients create systems that use FOP for commercial output.

We've been hugely successful, producing books as large as 2,000 pages. My
clients and their customers are very satisfied with FOP (though many of them
don't even know FOP exists, since it works behind the scenes from their
point of view).

The cost of any software package is trivial next to the cost of development
time (both writing and programming), so I can't say that using an
open-source processor like FOP saves a lot of money. However, I can't
sufficiently emphasize the value of the FOP community. I've never yet had an
issue for which I didn't get help in a hurry. Generally, if I have a
question, I post and get more than one helpful message within 24 hours
(often much less). I never get that kind of support from any company, even
though I paid for their product.

Jay Bryant
Bryant Communication Services

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RE: Commercial Documents

2006-08-03 Thread Rick Roen
Yes, I am using it in a product for occasional reports, but mostly for sales
documents.  

I used to do them in HTML, but the inconsistencies between one browser and
another drove me nuts!  PDF may not be exactly the same everywhere, but it
is a huge improvement.

I like the pdf format because I can email, fax or print from within the
program and all customers can read it.

So far, creating the documents is rather slow (up to 10 seconds/doc), but I
am doing this on a Windows network using a batch file.  As I get a bit
deeper into Java I can probably speed things up, but I'm a complete novice
now.

The support on this NG is VERY good.

The advantage for my client is to be able to email invoices rather than send
by mail.  In the US, and probably everywhere, postage is becoming a major
expense.

Rick

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Are people using FOP to generate pdf documents for commercial purposes? How
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Andy

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