Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
I like the name precisely because of its connotations. Fossil records are kept in perpetuity, are affected neither by bad weather, fashion nor by bad management; nothing but the act of an angry god will change them. But the connotation has to be applied to the right thing. The intended connotation is in regard to the way that Fossil treats the data that is placed under its care, rather than the application itself. Like rumours, connotations require little effort to generate and it would be impossible to be consistent with all of them. Hopefully, as it was with the iPad, the inappropriate ones will just fade away. And as for the logo, it tells me that quality products will outlast those of the insurance companies :) Paul Higham Tel +1 408 522 6225 phig...@sjm.com -Original Message- From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org [mailto:fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of John Found Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 10:31 To: undisclosed-recipients Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming... >Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. Fossil has been >self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a year >or so prior to that. Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of >development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it has >been around for quite some time now. 3.62 years - which is like half an >eon in internet time, right? I understand this. Actually 3..4 years are not so big time for so great peace of software. I can remember how was renamed Firefox browser - you know it was Phoenix at the begining, then it becomes Firebird and now it is Firefox. It is true - the reasons was different, but... I don't think the site have to be fancy and bright. I only pointed the negative associations that the name can induce in peoples minds. Anyway. It is of course your project and your decision. I will use it widely in the future, simply because it is exactly what I need for my projects. -- Original Message -- To: (fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org) From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org) Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming... Date: 2.3.2011 18:01:48 >On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Found wrote: > >> Hi all. >> First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is >> simply gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon as >> possible. :) My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes some >> unpleasant associations and have not very propriate connotations. >> The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim >>look. >> Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of >> sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) ) >> Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with >> crowds of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, >>versatile. >> The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the >> name have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of >>development. > >Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. Fossil has been >self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a year >or so prior to that. Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of >development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it has >been around for quite some time now. 3.62 years - which is like half an >eon in internet time, right? > > >> >> So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments. >> >> Best Regards >> >> ___ >> fossil-users mailing list >> fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org >> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users >> > > > >-- >D. Richard Hipp >d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users This communication, including any attachments, may contain information that is proprietary, privileged, confidential or legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not a named addressee, you are hereby notified that you are not authorized to read, print, retain a copy of or disseminate any portion of this communication without the consent of the sender and that doing so may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender via return e-mail and delete it from your system. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 01:25:55PM -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: > > My only problem with the name is that it's to common a word - searching > for info on fossil keeps turning up paleontological sites. Try searching for "fossil scm". It works for me. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpovQzjFfGa4.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] merging tickets
Hi all, You can merge a single revision/delta into your current branch with -cherrypick. You can attach a single revision to a ticket by mentioning the ticket id (or a prefix of its uuid?) in the checkin comment (I think - the docs I could find weren't very clear on this). And form the ticket view you get a link to checkins associated with the ticket. Can these two functions be combined, so that you could cherrypick all checkins associated with a particular ticket? This seems like it should be easily scriptable, but I can't see how to get the checkins associated with a ticket from the command line. Thanks -J ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 1:25 PM, Mike Meyer wrote: > My only problem with the name is that it's to common a word - > searching for info on fossil keeps turning up paleontological sites. I was seeking an issue tracking solution that would not require a server. At the time I figured maybe something based on SVN since it can work with just a file server, so I searched for SVN issue tracker. I found a few commmand line issue trackers built on SVN, so was thinking I might have to enhance one of those to have a GUI. Then I came across Fossil. Having all the hard work done, the ability to work offline and the potential for true peer-to-peer operation sold me. While it is somewhat obscure, it is far from being "below the radar". While some people don't like Wikipedia, the issue tracker article was near the top of the search results and the article on Fossil was only 2 levels below that. Also, searching for "fossil issue tracker" gave the Fossil home page as the first result. However, I have to admit I might not have looked at Fossil if I had not been looking for a solution that required at most a file server. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
>Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. Fossil has been >self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a year >or so prior to that. Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of >development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it has >been around for quite some time now. 3.62 years - which is like half an >eon in internet time, right? I understand this. Actually 3..4 years are not so big time for so great peace of software. I can remember how was renamed Firefox browser - you know it was Phoenix at the begining, then it becomes Firebird and now it is Firefox. It is true - the reasons was different, but... I don't think the site have to be fancy and bright. I only pointed the negative associations that the name can induce in peoples minds. Anyway. It is of course your project and your decision. I will use it widely in the future, simply because it is exactly what I need for my projects. -- Original Message -- To: (fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org) From: Richard Hipp (d...@sqlite.org) Subject: Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming... Date: 2.3.2011 18:01:48 >On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Found wrote: > >> Hi all. >> First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is >> simply gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon as >> possible. :) My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes some >> unpleasant associations and have not very propriate connotations. >> The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim >>look. >> Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of >> sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) ) >> Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with >> crowds of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, >>versatile. >> The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the >> name have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of >>development. > >Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. Fossil has been >self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a year >or so prior to that. Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of >development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it has >been around for quite some time now. 3.62 years - which is like half an >eon in internet time, right? > > >> >> So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments. >> >> Best Regards >> >> ___ >> fossil-users mailing list >> fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org >> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users >> > > > >-- >D. Richard Hipp >d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 17:54:15 +0200 "John Found" wrote: > Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with crowds of > developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, versatile. Mercurial also means erratic, fickle, liable to sudden unpredictable changes. You really want to trust your source code to that? And you wisely didn't mention git. My only problem with the name is that it's to common a word - searching for info on fossil keeps turning up paleontological sites. http://www.mired.org/consulting.html Independent Software developer/SCM consultant, email for more information. O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Create new theme
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Federico Ramallo wrote: > The reason I'm thinking on add a built-in theme is because I'm thinking on > simply the creating of new projects with the same theme.. fossil config export skin -R template.fossil theme.txt fossil config import -R new-project.fossil theme.txt > > Also I'm planning to use the ticketing system from javascript. > It is possible to implementa REST interface to tickets? That way is simpler > to create/read/update tickets from both C and JS > No plans. You can make suggestions if you want. > > 2011/3/2 Richard Hipp > > Go to the Admin page and edit the CSS, Header, and Footer. >> >> If you want the result to become a built-in theme, that requires >> recompilation. But you don't really need your theme to be built in. The >> existing built-in themes are intended as templates from which you can create >> your own custom look by editing the CSS, header, and footer to suit your own >> preferences. >> >> On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Federico Ramallo wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was wondering how could I create a new theme? >>> >>> Do i need to add the theme before compilation? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> ___ >>> fossil-users mailing list >>> fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org >>> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> D. Richard Hipp >> d...@sqlite.org >> > > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] A helper function I have for a shorter commandline
On 3/2/2011 9:17 AM, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: > On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:05:55AM -0800, Andreas Kupries wrote: >> >> http://paste.tclers.tk/2370 > > Hello, > > "$@" is what you want for quoting arguments maintaining spaces. Thanks. I'll try that. -- Andreas Kupries Senior Tcl Developer ActiveState, The Dynamic Language Experts P: 778.786.1122 F: 778.786.1133 andre...@activestate.com http://www.activestate.com Get insights on Open Source and Dynamic Languages at www.activestate.com/blog ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:01:48 -0500 Richard Hipp wrote: > Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. No matter where is the train, Fossil is not for those wanting nice logo & name - it offers much more for those who can appreciate it. ;) Sincerely, Gour -- “In the material world, conceptions of good and bad are all mental speculations…” (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu) http://atmarama.net | Hlapicina (Croatia) | GPG: CDBF17CA signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] A helper function I have for a shorter commandline
On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 09:05:55AM -0800, Andreas Kupries wrote: > > http://paste.tclers.tk/2370 Hello, "$@" is what you want for quoting arguments maintaining spaces. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] A helper function I have for a shorter commandline
http://paste.tclers.tk/2370 -- Andreas Kupries Senior Tcl Developer ActiveState, The Dynamic Language Experts P: 778.786.1122 F: 778.786.1133 andre...@activestate.com http://www.activestate.com Get insights on Open Source and Dynamic Languages at www.activestate.com/blog ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Create new theme
Go to the Admin page and edit the CSS, Header, and Footer. If you want the result to become a built-in theme, that requires recompilation. But you don't really need your theme to be built in. The existing built-in themes are intended as templates from which you can create your own custom look by editing the CSS, header, and footer to suit your own preferences. On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Federico Ramallo wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering how could I create a new theme? > > Do i need to add the theme before compilation? > > Thanks! > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Create new theme
Hi, I was wondering how could I create a new theme? Do i need to add the theme before compilation? Thanks! ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:54 AM, John Found wrote: > Hi all. > First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is simply > gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon as possible. :) > My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes some unpleasant > associations and have not very propriate connotations. > The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim look. > > Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of > sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) ) > Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with crowds > of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, versatile. > > The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the name > have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of development. > Unfortunately, the train has already left the station. Fossil has been self-hosting since 2007 and parts of the code have been around for a year or so prior to that. Fossil might seem like it is in "early stages of development" to you, since you have only just now discovered it, but it has been around for quite some time now. 3.62 years - which is like half an eon in internet time, right? > > So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments. > > Best Regards > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
On 2 Mar 2011, at 17:57, paolo lulli wrote: > I like both the name and the logo. I don't really mind the name. I think it works once you 'get' it. However I'd agree with the original poster that the logo could do with some spicing up. I think the form itself is fine, but it could just do with a bit of colour and detail. Then again the same could be said for the default look of fossil webpages. They're mostly functional, but not hugely appealing. -- Kristoffer Lawson, Co-Founder, Scred // http://www.scred.com/ http://travellingsalesman.mobi - 1km & The world's most arctic startups ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
I like both the name and the logo. Regards, P. 2011/3/2 John Found > Hi all. > First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is simply > gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon as possible. :) > My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes some unpleasant > associations and have not very propriate connotations. > The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim look. > > Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of > sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) ) > Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with crowds > of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, versatile. > > The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the name > have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of development. > > So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments. > > Best Regards > > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] IMHO Fossil needs renaming...
Hi all. First mail to this mail list. Please forgive my audacity - fossil is simply gorgeous just like SQLite, but it need to be renamed as soon as possible. :) My point is simple. IMHO, the name "Fossil" provokes some unpleasant associations and have not very propriate connotations. The same can be said for Fossil Logo - it is dark and have veri grim look. Just compare it with SQLite name and logo (btw - old logo and site of sqlite was better,now they are "heavy" :) ) Also look at other similar systems - "Bazaar" - makes allusion with crowds of developers. "Mercurial" - something very agive, quick, versatile. The name is important for the future of the every project. And if the name have to be changed - it is good to be made in earlier stages of development. So, mr.Hipp, please think a little about this arguments. Best Regards ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
