Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Rene
On Thu, 26 May 2011 06:48:58 +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:
 On Wed, 25 May 2011 23:42:58 +0200
 Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 make
 ./fossil rebuild
 ./fossil ui
 and voila a previous release

 Tried, but still does not work... :-/

 I had to convert some repos to bzr (via git) ind order to continue
 commiting to
 them. :-/


 Sincerely,
 Gour
I'm  lost!
1) you were a happy camper with PC-BSD latest and fossil version 
xx.
2) You updated to the latest version of fossil and the fossil 
webinterface stopped working.
3) You downgraded to fossil version xx and still no dice.

take the latest fossil
do

fossil new gour.fossil
fossil ui gour.fossil

if that fails

take the previous fossil and  do the same thing

one or both should work. Otherwise item 1 above never happened
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[fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Gilles
Hello

I read the wiki, but didn't find clear explanation about how to go
back to a previous revision of a file in case something I tried didn't
work as planned.

The closest command that looks like it does this is update:

http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/help/update

If I wanted to go back to the n-1 version of a file, should I...

1. Close the repository, so I can delete the current work file
(otherwise, Fossil will merge n and n-1?)
2. Launch the UI
3. Check the version ID, ie. in Modified myfil.exet from [123] to
[456], it'll be 123
4. and type: fossil.exe update 123 myfile.txt

?

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:22:09 +0200
Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote:

   I read the wiki, but didn't find clear explanation about how
 to go back to a previous revision of a file in case something I tried
 didn't work as planned.
 
 The closest command that looks like it does this is update:
 
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/help/update
 
 If I wanted to go back to the n-1 version of a file, should I...
 
 1. Close the repository, so I can delete the current work file
 (otherwise, Fossil will merge n and n-1?)
 2. Launch the UI
 3. Check the version ID, ie. in Modified myfil.exet from [123] to
 [456], it'll be 123
 4. and type: fossil.exe update 123 myfile.txt

The latter.
Read carefully what fossil help update prints.
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:18:46 +0200
Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 1) you were a happy camper with PC-BSD latest and fossil version 
 xx.

Yes.

 2) You updated to the latest version of fossil and the fossil 
 webinterface stopped working.

Yes.

 3) You downgraded to fossil version xx and still no dice.

Yes.

 one or both should work. Otherwise item 1 above never happened

There is a little flaw in your reasoning - you forgot that it works with Midori
browser (I didn't want to install Chromium to test.) So, e.g. Fossil version
[a2e1c48373] works with Midori here, but not with Firefox.

The only problem is that my regular browser is FF and not Midori and it's
painful investigating what's wrong with Fossil  FF combo.


Sincerely,
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Re: [fossil-users] fossil usage in root directory (was Re: [newbie] Can't get started)

2011-05-26 Thread Joan Picanyol i Puig

Hi,

Thanks for the discussion, it looks that there's some interest in it.
For the record, I'm currently using mercurial + mtree, but I'd like to
avoid the dependency on Python  FreeBSD.

* Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com [20110525 17:25]:
 
 System-level config files often need to belong to a specific user and/or
 group. So fossil would also have to track user names, and there is no
 guaranty that user 'stephan' on host1 is actually the same user as 'stephan'
 on host2 (though they tend to be the same person on my systems ;).
 Philosophically, i don't think that problem can be solved generically.

It is certainly not easy (think LDAP/AD deployments), but fossil is
missing another crucial feature: pre/post-commit hooks.

 Even if fossil did support storing/restoring the whole permissions (with
 user/group names/IDs), it literally couldn't work for anyone but the root
 user: Unix systems won't let a user's process chown a file to a different
 user.

Obviously the OS user running fossil needs apropriate permissions. Given
that though, and assuming fossil grows the ability to track them,
there's no reason why it should not be able to restore them.

 And what to do on files imported into fossil from Windows and checked out on
 Unix systems?

Regarding ownership, I believe the best that can be done is store a
id/name pair on chekin and warn if the mapping does not resolve the same
on checkout.

* Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com [20110525 19:28]:
 On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:35 PM, Bill Burdick bill.burd...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  Etckeeper is a specialized tool that uses DVCSes for versioning.  It's OK
  that Fossil can't support everything needed for this, but I don't think it's
  unreasonable for Joan to ask whether Fossil can be used for it -- every
  major DVCS can, except for Fossil.
 
 My apologies - it wasn't my intention to imply that it's not a reasonable
 usage/feature, i was just pointing out reasons it won't work well out of the
 box, and why supporting such usage probably requires more effort than it
 would seem to on the surface.

The problem is that fossil does not support neither good-enough
ownership/permission tracking nor the flexibility to work around it
before/after commit. 

I hope that fossil grows either (or both :) of these features some time,
even though they are likely not one-liners.

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:03:34 +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov
flatw...@users.sourceforge.net wrote:
Read carefully what fossil help update prints.

Thanks, but it's just the same information from the wiki.

Anyway, after going the list of commands, I seem to have found how to
have Fossil check out a given revision of a file:
=
1. First, find the list of revision numbers for the file:

C:\fossil.exe finfo myfile.txt

History of myfile.txt
2011-05-26 [6ae687415f] some comment (user: Me, artifact:
[a16a331cb0])
2011-05-26 [7091e0aaf4] some comment (user: Me, artifact:
[750ae972b4])

The revision number is the alphanumeric data after the date, and
revisions are in descending order (most recent on top).

2. To check out the first revision of the file:

C:\fossil.exe revert -r 7091e0aaf4 myfile.txt
REVERTED: myfile.txt
=

In case I edited the work version to try something, and simply want to
discard the changes and go back to the latest committed version:
=
C:\fossil.exe revert -r 7091e0aaf4 myfile.txt
REVERTED: myfile.txt
fossil undo is available to undo changes to the working checkout.
=

Am I right in understanding that the sentence above about undo means
that...
1. The work version was replaced by the committed version
2. But in case I'd like to go back to the work version that was just
replaced, I can do this with undo?

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:22 AM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote:

 Hello

I read the wiki, but didn't find clear explanation about how to go
 back to a previous revision of a file in case something I tried didn't
 work as planned.

 The closest command that looks like it does this is update:

 http://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/help/update

 If I wanted to go back to the n-1 version of a file, should I...

 1. Close the repository, so I can delete the current work file
 (otherwise, Fossil will merge n and n-1?)
 2. Launch the UI
 3. Check the version ID, ie. in Modified myfil.exet from [123] to
 [456], it'll be 123
 4. and type: fossil.exe update 123 myfile.txt

 Way too much work.  Just type:

fossil update previous





 ?

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Thu, 26 May 2011 06:50:39 -0400
Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you explicitly set the web-browser setting

Yes...that's how I change setting in order to be able to try/test with Midori
browser.

 If you try to start firefox from cli with any url as argument, does it work ?

Yes.

 If this give you same behavior, so fossil have nothing to do with the
 problem.

Well, I admit it's strange problem, but, at the same time it's very real for
me. :-/



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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa g...@atmarama.netwrote:

 On Thu, 26 May 2011 06:50:39 -0400
 Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:

  Do you explicitly set the web-browser setting

 Yes...that's how I change setting in order to be able to try/test with
 Midori
 browser.

  If you try to start firefox from cli with any url as argument, does it
 work ?

 Yes.

  If this give you same behavior, so fossil have nothing to do with the
  problem.

 Well, I admit it's strange problem, but, at the same time it's very real
 for
 me. :-/


Please also understand that it is very hard for me to fix if I cannot
reproduce it.





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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Rene
On Thu, 26 May 2011 13:17:58 +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:
 On Thu, 26 May 2011 06:50:39 -0400
 Martin Gagnon eme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you explicitly set the web-browser setting

 Yes...that's how I change setting in order to be able to try/test 
 with Midori
 browser.

 If you try to start firefox from cli with any url as argument, does 
 it work ?

 Yes.

 If this give you same behavior, so fossil have nothing to do with 
 the
 problem.

 Well, I admit it's strange problem, but, at the same time it's very 
 real for
 me. :-/



 Sincerely,
 Gour

does the
fossil new gour.fossil
fossil ui gour.fossil

still doesn't show the webinterface?
If you do the same with the previous fossil version allow you to show 
the webinterface?


has  firefox been updated? if so can you downgrade with ports?
which version off firefox are you using? 4.0,0, 4.0.1 or 5.0.0

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:08:55 -0400, Richard Hipp
d...@sqlite.org wrote:
 Way too much work.  Just type:

fossil update previous

Thanks for the tip, but update merges the repo version with the work
version, while I wanted to simply discard the work version altogether
and go back to the repo version.

This is indeed easier than what I did before:

C:\fossil.exe revert previous myfile.txt

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:50 AM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote:

 On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:08:55 -0400, Richard Hipp
 d...@sqlite.org wrote:
  Way too much work.  Just type:
 
 fossil update previous

 Thanks for the tip, but update merges the repo version with the work
 version, while I wanted to simply discard the work version altogether
 and go back to the repo version.


fossil revert




 This is indeed easier than what I did before:

 C:\fossil.exe revert previous myfile.txt

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Re: [fossil-users] Going back to previous revision: update?

2011-05-26 Thread Gilles
On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:54:41 -0400, Richard Hipp
d...@sqlite.org wrote:
fossil revert

Even easier. Thank you.

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:20:46 -0400
Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Please also understand that it is very hard for me to fix if I cannot
 reproduce it.

Sure. I understand, np.

Now, I tried with lynx - it works.

I managed to launch firefox by killing old seesion and started a new
one.

However, I notice some strange things which I can swear I did not do: setting
for main branch is 'trunk', althouth there is not 'trunk' branch listed, but
'master' instead?

Then I found some other repos with the same setting and another one which was
also not launching with the same setting. However, after I changed setting to
'trunk' it did launch, so I feel some smell here..

Was there some Fossil code which fiddled with such things?


Sincerely,
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[fossil-users] Zipping a packaged release -- option to ignore specific folder?

2011-05-26 Thread Tomek Kott
Hi folks,

Is there a way with fossil zip to export all folders except a specific
one? For example, I have a 'www' folder, which contains some js / css files
for the web portion. However, when exporting a completed release, I'd like
to export without that folder. This would be something similar to git's
export-ignore. Have I just missed something in the documentation about
this? Or perhaps I missed something in the archive of the list?

Thanks,

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Re: [fossil-users] Zipping a packaged release -- option to ignore specific folder?

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Tomek Kott tkott.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi folks,

 Is there a way with fossil zip to export all folders except a specific
 one? For example, I have a 'www' folder, which contains some js / css files
 for the web portion. However, when exporting a completed release, I'd like
 to export without that folder. This would be something similar to git's
 export-ignore. Have I just missed something in the documentation about
 this? Or perhaps I missed something in the archive of the list?


There is nothing like that now.  But I will accept patches :-)



 Thanks,

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil usage in root directory (was Re: [newbie] Can't get started)

2011-05-26 Thread Tapi
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:03:19 +0200, Joan Picanyol i Puig wrote:
 The problem is that fossil does not support neither good-enough
 ownership/permission tracking nor the flexibility to work around it
 before/after commit.

 I hope that fossil grows either (or both :) of these features some 
 time,
 even though they are likely not one-liners.

What about creating your own wrappers on top of fossil ?
If fossil doesn't store ownership, permissions, or the temperature of 
the room at the time you checked in, you're still free to handle these 
yourself using versioned files and helper scripts ;)
For example :
1. a backup script, which generates a file at the root of your tree, 
containing all the information you need (ownership and permissions for 
each file in the tree, symlinks ignored by fossil, whatever... a kind of 
user-level manifest) and then calls fossil commit (and WOW, you get 
metadata history as a bonus !)
2. a restore script, which pulls/updates/checkouts/whatever, reads 
your manifest then applies the ownership and permissions on your 
files, creates symlinks, etc...

Proof of concept (handles ownership and permissions) :
- backup : http://dpaste.com/hold/546796/
- restore : http://dpaste.com/hold/546797/
These scripts should be called from the root of your checkout, or with 
the path to the checkout root as first argument.

IMO, this is definitely NOT the goal of fossil to provide backup 
features out of the box...

Regards,

Simon

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Bill Burdick
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:15 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa g...@atmarama.netwrote:

 On Thu, 26 May 2011 07:20:46 -0400
 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

  Please also understand that it is very hard for me to fix if I cannot
  reproduce it.

 Sure. I understand, np.

 Now, I tried with lynx - it works.

 I managed to launch firefox by killing old seesion and started a new
 one.

 However, I notice some strange things which I can swear I did not do:
 setting
 for main branch is 'trunk', althouth there is not 'trunk' branch listed,
 but
 'master' instead?

 Then I found some other repos with the same setting and another one which
 was
 also not launching with the same setting. However, after I changed setting
 to
 'trunk' it did launch, so I feel some smell here..

 Was there some Fossil code which fiddled with such things?


 Sincerely,
 Gour


Git uses 'master' for its trunk.  Were these repositories converted from
GitHub?

I had problems with some Git repositories I converted to Fossil because they
had orphan branches -- GitHub uses orphan branches for the web content of
a project (GitHub has instructions to create an orphan branch for the web
content for a project, so it's kind of standard for GitHub repositories).
 Fossil got confused by these until I tagged the START of the orphan
branches.  Then, Fossil could deal with them.


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Re: [fossil-users] Zipping a packaged release -- option to ignore specific folder?

2011-05-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Tomek Kott tkott.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now, I believe that the easiest (not necessarily the best place to check
 to ignore would be in the zip_add_file(), since all commands flow through
 that (both folder / file names). The only question remaining, since I can't
 seem to follow the logic (I guess the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet) is:
 given a pIgnore and a zName (file or folder), how do I compare the two?


The code for crnl-glob proably already has code to make such a comparison.


 In the add function, this seems to be accomplished by vfile_scan(), but I
 can't seem to find the definition to that!


See vfile.c, search for 'void vfile_scan'.


 If I can answer that question, then I should be able to put together a
 patch which does the export-ignore controls. If I understand the setup
 correctly, I will also need to add the export-ignore-glob definition to
 db.c, and configure.c to make sure they are correctly synced. Anyone with
 more knowledge of fossil please chime in!


One detail to consider: this setting, as described here, would apply to all
branches over all of time, whereas the exclude list might be branch- or
timeframe-specific.

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:22:38 -0500
Bill Burdick bill.burd...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Git uses 'master' for its trunk.  Were these repositories converted
 from GitHub?

Ohh...completely forgot about that (/me prefers not to think about about
Git)...yes, that one was darcs --- fossil converted via Git, but, strange
enough, I never had any problem with it until few days ago. Moreover, Midori
browser could show same repo which failed with FF.


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Re: [fossil-users] Zipping a packaged release -- option to ignore specific folder?

2011-05-26 Thread Richard Hipp
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Tomek Kott tkott.s...@gmail.com wrote:

 Now, I believe that the easiest (not necessarily the best place to
 check to ignore would be in the zip_add_file(), since all commands flow
 through that (both folder / file names). The only question remaining, since
 I can't seem to follow the logic (I guess the caffeine hasn't kicked in yet)
 is: given a pIgnore and a zName (file or folder), how do I compare the
 two?


 The code for crnl-glob proably already has code to make such a comparison.


 In the add function, this seems to be accomplished by vfile_scan(), but I
 can't seem to find the definition to that!


 See vfile.c, search for 'void vfile_scan'.


 If I can answer that question, then I should be able to put together a
 patch which does the export-ignore controls. If I understand the setup
 correctly, I will also need to add the export-ignore-glob definition to
 db.c, and configure.c to make sure they are correctly synced. Anyone with
 more knowledge of fossil please chime in!


 One detail to consider: this setting, as described here, would apply to all
 branches over all of time, whereas the exclude list might be branch- or
 timeframe-specific.


Exactly.  I think it best that this not be a persistent setting, but just a
command-line option or query parameter.



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Re: [fossil-users] Zipping a packaged release -- option to ignore specific folder?

2011-05-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:03 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Exactly.  I think it best that this not be a persistent setting, but just a
 command-line option or query parameter.


Or possibly a propagating tag? That would(?) solve the branching/timeframe
issue, i think, by simply taking the latest value (for a given revision) of
the tag's value.

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Rene
On Thu, 26 May 2011 12:06:19 +0200, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote:
 On Thu, 26 May 2011 10:18:46 +0200
 Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 1) you were a happy camper with PC-BSD latest and fossil version
 xx.

 Yes.

 2) You updated to the latest version of fossil and the fossil
 webinterface stopped working.

 Yes.

 3) You downgraded to fossil version xx and still no dice.

 Yes.

 one or both should work. Otherwise item 1 above never happened

 There is a little flaw in your reasoning - you forgot that it works
 with Midori
 browser (I didn't want to install Chromium to test.) So, e.g. Fossil 
 version
 [a2e1c48373] works with Midori here, but not with Firefox.

 The only problem is that my regular browser is FF and not Midori and 
 it's
 painful investigating what's wrong with Fossil  FF combo.


 Sincerely,
 Gour
Just out of curiosity I installed PC-BSD latest in a virtual machine.
(Long install nice user interface!)
I installed firefox-4.0.1
I downloaded the latest fossil release compiled that
cloned fossil
fossil ui myclone.fossil and I got a web interface

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil ui does not launch

2011-05-26 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Fri, 27 May 2011 00:38:37 +0200
Rene renew...@xs4all.nl wrote:

 Just out of curiosity I installed PC-BSD latest in a virtual machine.
 (Long install nice user interface!)

Heh, nice that you tried PC-BSD. ;)

 I installed firefox-4.0.1 I downloaded the latest fossil release compiled
 that cloned fossil fossil ui myclone.fossil and I got a web interface

As you may guess from my previous email, it might be that it is something with
the repos which were darcs -- fossil converted via git and/or with FF 'stale'
session.


Sincerely,
Gour

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