Re: [fossil-users] Markdown

2013-05-29 Thread Isaac Jurado
El 29/05/2013 06:28, Jonathan Otsuka djg...@gmail.com escribió:

 Downloads are not compiled with --markdown (its still experimental) you
will need to checkout and compile fossil with --markdown yourself.

Beware that --mardown is not a configure option anymore, in trunk, so it
will be enabled by default in future releases.


 Jonathan Otsuka

 On May 28, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Doug Franklin nutdriverle...@comcast.net
wrote:

  Do the default (downloadable) versions of Fossil not have Markdown
support enabled, or am I doing something wrong?  My browser keeps telling
me open or save this unknown file type.
 
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[fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server?

2013-05-29 Thread Nigel Bray
I am struggling to see what is tripping me up when a single repository works
fine, but multiple repositories within a directory fails as follows:
https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/u/0/#inbox

$ cat repo.cgi
#!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
repository: /home/sites/my.domain/repos

http://my.domain/cgi-bin/repo.cgi/repo1

SQLITE_CANTOPEN: cannot open file at line 28175 of [7e10a62d0e]
SQLITE_CANTOPEN: os_unix.c:28175: (21) open(/home/sites/my.domain/repos) -
Is a directory
Database Error
[/home/sites/my.domain/repos]: unable to open database file
...

The following edit serves a single repository without error:

$ cat repo.cgi
#!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
repository: /home/sites/my.domain/repos/repo1.fossil

Some environment data from the server gives me no clue:

$ cat bash-test.cgi
#!/bin/bash
echo Content-Type: text/plain
env | sort

DOCUMENT_ROOT=/home/sites/my.domain/public_html/
GATEWAY_INTERFACE=CGI/1.1
HTTP_ACCEPT=text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
HTTP_ACCEPT_ENCODING=gzip, deflate
HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE=en-gb,en;q=0.5
HTTP_CONNECTION=keep-alive
HTTP_HOST=my.domain
HTTP_USER_AGENT=Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux i686; rv:21.0)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
PWD=/home/sites/my.domain/cgi-bin
QUERY_STRING=
REMOTE_ADDR=my.ip.61.0
REMOTE_PORT=22428
REQUEST_METHOD=GET
REQUEST_URI=/cgi-bin/bash-test.cgi
SCRIPT_FILENAME=/home/sites/my.domain/cgi-bin/bash-test.cgi
SCRIPT_NAME=/cgi-bin/bash-test.cgi
SCRIPT_URI=http://my.domain/cgi-bin/bash-test.cgi
SCRIPT_URL=/cgi-bin/bash-test.cgi
SERVER_ADDR=79.170.44.123
SERVER_ADMIN=webmaster@my.domain
SERVER_NAME=my.domain
SERVER_PORT=80
SERVER_PROTOCOL=HTTP/1.1
SERVER_SIGNATURE=addressApache/2 Server at my.domain Port 80/address
SERVER_SOFTWARE=Apache/2
SHLVL=1
_=/usr/bin/env

$ fossil version
This is fossil version 1.25 [d2e07756d9] 2013-02-16 00:04:35 UTC

A further test on my local machine gives me:

$ cat test.cgi
#!/usr/bin/fossil
repository: /home/nrb/987mb

nrb@nrb-ThinkPad-T61:~$ fossil cgi test.cgi
Status: 200 OK
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
Cache-control: no-cache
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Length: 433

p class=generalError
SQLITE_CANTOPEN: cannot open file at line 28175 of [7e10a62d0e]
/p
p class=generalError
SQLITE_CANTOPEN: os_unix.c:28175: (21) open(/home/nrb/987mb) - Is a directory
/p
h1Database Error/h1
pre[/home/nrb/987mb]: unable to open database file/pre
pIf you have recently updated your fossil executable, you might
need to run fossil all rebuild to bring the repository
schemas up to date.
/p

Experimenting with a notfound: /repo1 does not change behaviour.

Any help would be much appreciated!

BR/ Nigel
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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server?

2013-05-29 Thread MIURA Masahiro
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Nigel Bray fossil@9ox.net wrote:
 I am struggling to see what is tripping me up when a single repository works
 fine, but multiple repositories within a directory fails as follows:
 https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/u/0/#inbox

 $ cat repo.cgi
 #!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
 repository: /home/sites/my.domain/repos

See the section Serving multiple repositories with one script in
http://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/doc/trunk/www/server.wiki

In short, you need something like:

#!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
directory: /home/sites/my.domain/repos
notfound: http://url.to/your/favorite/404page.html


Hope this helps.

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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server?

2013-05-29 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:22 AM, MIURA Masahiro echocham...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Nigel Bray fossil@9ox.net wrote:
  I am struggling to see what is tripping me up when a single repository
 works
  fine, but multiple repositories within a directory fails as follows:
  https://mail.google.com/mail/ca/u/0/#inbox
 
  $ cat repo.cgi
  #!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
  repository: /home/sites/my.domain/repos

 See the section Serving multiple repositories with one script in
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/doc/trunk/www/server.wiki

 In short, you need something like:

 #!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
 directory: /home/sites/my.domain/repos
 notfound: http://url.to/your/favorite/404page.html



I think Miura is correct.  But just to clarify - the key change is to
replace repository: with directory:.  The notfound: line is useful,
but not required, iirc.

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[fossil-users] 2 possible bugs?

2013-05-29 Thread Eduardo Morras


Hi, revising fossil code with clan analyzer, 2 possible bugs where found, from 
last trunk ( 4175c90f9522299c07ae4da5d19b93a50ce5f74c 
http://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/info/4175c90f95):

a) src/file.c line 197-201

197 if( zName!=zBuf ) free(zName);

if( symlink(zTargetFile, zName)!=0 ){
  fossil_fatal_recursive(unable to create symlink \%s\, zName);
201 }

So zName may be used after free.

b) src/attach.c line 490 


490 free(zDate);
@ trthUser:/thtd
492 hyperlink_to_user(pAttach-zUser, zDate, /td/tr);

Similar, zDate is used after the free.

HTH

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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server? (fossil: d...@sqlite.org exclusive)

2013-05-29 Thread fossil . nrb
On 29 May 2013 11:12, Richard Hipp - d...@sqlite.org
fossil.nrb.4c1d029458.drh#sqlite@ob.0sg.net wrote:


 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:22 AM, MIURA Masahiro echocham...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Nigel Bray fossil@9ox.net wrote:
  I am struggling to see what is tripping me up when a single repository
  works
  fine, but multiple repositories within a directory fails as follows:

 See the section Serving multiple repositories with one script in
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/doc/trunk/www/server.wiki

 In short, you need something like:

 #!/home/sites/my.domain/bin/fossil
 directory: /home/sites/my.domain/repos
 notfound: http://url.to/your/favorite/404page.html

 I think Miura is correct.  But just to clarify - the key change is to
 replace repository: with directory:.  The notfound: line is useful,
 but not required, iirc.

 --
 D. Richard Hipp
 d...@sqlite.org

Many thanks Miura and Richard, that works!  Sorry for missing the
obvious, but really pleased to be up and running again having moved a
few times from my own local inetd/althtpd[1] to Chisel/flint[2] then
dropbox and now on my webhost using their ssh access.

Despite my error, I find the simplicity of setting up a Fossil repo
(or better a set of repos) under cgi fantastic.

BR/ Nigel
[1] althttpd, http://www.sqlite.org/docsrc/artifact/14c9965da19?ln=2-62,
so valuable and a bit hard to search for I dug out the link
[2] chisel and flint, http://chiselapp.com/repositories/search/flint,
also excellent, and thanks to James and Rkeene for latest changes

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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server? (fossil: d...@sqlite.org exclusive)

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM, fossil@9ox.net wrote:

 Despite my error, I find the simplicity of setting up a Fossil repo
 (or better a set of repos) under cgi fantastic.


+1

@Richard: out of historical interest, what was the motivation behind adding
CGI support initially? (Despite CGI being archaic, it was _the_ feature
which caused my initial addiction to fossil.)

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Re: [fossil-users] 2 possible bugs?

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es wrote:

 a) src/file.c line 197-201
 b) src/attach.c line 490


Man, he's fast - i was about to commit these fixes, but Richard beat me to
it:
http://www.fossil-scm.org/xfer/info/04ab1af3e0

Thanks for the report!

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Re: [fossil-users] Chiselapp.com shutting down

2013-05-29 Thread Nigel Bray
NB: Apologies if I don't get this to thread correctly, I've not got an
email copy of the original post, so can't reply properly.

As an occasional Fossil user, I have previously hosted using
inetd/althttpd[1] and Chisel[2] as well as Dropbox.

Now I have moved to cgi, given ssh access, it seems to be as simple as
just three file copies, right?

scp fossil user@webservers-ssh-domain:/path-to-host's-executables/bin/
 ## if binary not available for host machine, then instead, do wget of
the sources and ./configure  make on the host
scp repos.cgi user@webservers-ssh-domain:/path-to-host's-scripts/cgi-bin/
scp repo1.fossil user@webservers-ssh-domain:/path-to-host's-repositories/repos/
# repeat the above copy for more than one repository on the server
# backup the original copied fossil archives from the client machine,
and 'fossil clone' new copies from the server (fossils can be moved,
but I think should not be duplicated, internals of fossil need state
variables dependent upon the instance)

A further thread I found very valuable is the knowledge that this can
be done on sourceforge for open source projects [3].

I use fossil to share data with people who are normally dropbox users
for their personal use and occasional users of corporate VCS/tracking
tools.  I and people I introduce Fossil to feel that it is an
excellent model of elegant design and efficient workflow and would
like to see it adopted more widely, and perhaps bring in extra
valuable contributors.

I find that the idea of hosting [4] is great and that for me; an
additional facility matching dropbox background file syncing could
perhaps widen the user base.  A client(Fossil) installed like that for
dropbox[5] on the users local machine would be most handy.  As Fossil
already does autosync and autocheckout, some extra client side
automatic checkin and filename splitting on (rare) replication
conflicts may be needed to match dropbox usability.

On top of a Fossil hosting service, this wish I have, could be
characterised as anybody who wants to use fossil like dropbox simply
has to download the client package, open to install it, agree to let
it start on reboot and run in the background.  Given an available
hosting solution, the user would see something like: If you're running
this for the first time, you'll be asked to create a new account or
add this to an existing account. Once you do, your Fossil folder will
be created in your home directory.

[1] althttpd, http://www.sqlite.org/docsrc/artifact/14c9965da19?ln=2-62
[2] chisel and flint, http://chiselapp.com/repositories/search/flint
[3] ssh access to sourceforge,
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.fossil-scm.user/12163,
really convenient option for self hosting open source
[4] fossil hosting requirements,
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.fossil-scm.user/12160/focus=12167,
anybody who wants to host something like chiselapp simply has to
obtain a low-cost internet host, copy the fossil executable into
/usr/bin, create a single CGI script that is less than 10 lines long,
and they are up and running
[5] dropbox client application, https://www.dropbox.com/help/247/en,
seems to have wide adoption
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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server? (fossil: d...@sqlite.org exclusive)

2013-05-29 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.comwrote:

 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM, fossil@9ox.net wrote:

 Despite my error, I find the simplicity of setting up a Fossil repo
 (or better a set of repos) under cgi fantastic.


 +1

 @Richard: out of historical interest, what was the motivation behind
 adding CGI support initially? (Despite CGI being archaic, it was _the_
 feature which caused my initial addiction to fossil.)


Well, I suppose I don't consider CGI to be archaic.  CGI is simple,
concise, easy to administer, easy to implement (on both ends), efficient,
and is supported by all web-servers (except nginx).

CGI grows out of the historic development model where you spin up a new
process to handle each specific task.  Unix was built around this model.
It is an older model, but just because it is old doesn't make it bad.
There is really quite a lot to recommend it:

(1) No need to worry about resource leaks because the operating-system
automatically and efficiently reclaims resources when the short-lived
working process dies.

(2) Programming is much simpler because you can almost always run
single-threaded and you can often get away with using global variables.

(3) Unit testing and debugging is easier since the worker task is now an
independent process that can be run from a command-line prompt and/or in
gdb or valgrind.

(4) Bugs in the application are well-contained.  One worker task might
segfault due to a bug, but other independent tasks continue happily running
without impact.

(5) There are no background processes that an administrator needs to
monitor and keep running.  The worker tasks are launched on-demand.  Thus
the administrative overhead is reduced.

I'm not sure why the one-process-per-task model has fallen out of favor.
One cause might be a quest to squeeze every last ounce of performance out
of systems by avoiding the process creation and breakdown overhead.
Another reason might be people growing up in a windows-oriented world where
process creation and breakdown is significantly more complex and costly
compared to unix where fork() and exit() are easy and cheap.

I like things to have low administrative, development, and maintenance
overhead.  CGI fits that requirement nicely.  Other similar technologies
(FCGI or SCGI come first to mind) require a lot more effort to program, to
set up, and to maintain.  Those others might be slightly faster on a busy
site, but CGI is fast enough for most applications, especially for small
and light-weight applications.  For something like Fossil, FCGI/SCGI would
be no faster.  (FCGI/SCGI might well be much faster if your CGI script
starts with #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/bin/php, but that is a function of
the start-up overhead of your scripting language, not of the interprocess
communication protocol.  Fossil, being native code, starts up very quickly
and so CGI startup time is minimized and the performance advantages of
FCGI/SCGI are lost in the noise of the added complexity.)

The Fossil and SQLite websites spin up about 4 or 5 new worker processes
per second on a debian linux VM at Linode.com that is a 1/24th slice of an
actual server.  And yet the load average stays down around 5%.  People say
Oh, you could go so much faster using $COOL_NEW_TECHNOLOGY.  But I doubt
it.  And even if we could, with the load average holding steady at 5%, it
isn't worth the trouble.  Better to keep things simple and reliable.

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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server? (fossil: d...@sqlite.org exclusive)

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 Well, I suppose I don't consider CGI to be archaic.  CGI is simple,
 concise, easy to administer, easy to implement (on both ends), efficient,
 and is supported by all web-servers (except nginx).


Thank you for the detailed insights. i feel compelled to amend my statement
about it being archaic to i _thought_ it was archaic until Fossil showed
me otherwise. Since then i've written several CGIs in C and didn't feel
the slightest bit archaic while doing so :).


 The Fossil and SQLite websites spin up about 4 or 5 new worker processes
 per second on a debian linux VM at Linode.com that is a 1/24th slice of an
 actual server.  And yet the load average stays down around 5%.  People say
 Oh, you could go so much faster using $COOL_NEW_TECHNOLOGY.  But I doubt
 it.  And even if we could, with the load average holding steady at 5%, it
 isn't worth the trouble.  Better to keep things simple and reliable.


Amen!

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Re: [fossil-users] Chiselapp.com shutting down

2013-05-29 Thread Andreas Kupries
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Nigel Bray fossil@9ox.net wrote:
 NB: Apologies if I don't get this to thread correctly, I've not got an
 email copy of the original post, so can't reply properly.

 As an occasional Fossil user, I have previously hosted using
 inetd/althttpd[1] and Chisel[2] as well as Dropbox.

As a side note, in case you (and/or others) are not aware, Chisel
found a new place to live at and is alive and well. The shutdown did
not happen. Its url is completely unchanged, only the underlying IP
address moved.

 [2] chisel and flint, http://chiselapp.com/repositories/search/flint


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[fossil-users] JSON API docs

2013-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
What's the current canonical location of documentation for Fossil's JSON
API?  Are there some handy howtos, tutorials,  examples, or other
third-party sources of documentation for the JSON API?

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Re: [fossil-users] How to set-up multiple-repo CGI-based server? (fossil: d...@sqlite.org exclusive)

2013-05-29 Thread Steve Landers
Richard,

Agree with all you say, it reflects my frustrations about a profession where 
simple, stable and reliable is so readily dismissed as outdated.

Re your specific comment I'm not sure why the one-process-per-task model has 
fallen out of favor..  It may be because early  web servers (and Apache in 
particular) struggled to scale on the then available hardware.  That and (as 
you mention) the startup cost of the languages being used.

Re SCGI, while I agree with all you say my experience is that it isn't 
difficult at all (at least, from Tcl).  In the Einstein Brain Atlas project we 
use NGINX + SCGI and it works just fine and is relatively simple to integrate 
with Tcl.  

Not that I'm advocating SCGI for Fossil, but if you do have needs that go 
beyond what simple CGI can provide then Nginx/SCGI is a relatively small 
incremental complexity cost.

Steve

On 29/05/2013, at 10:01 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:

 
 
 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 3:59 PM, fossil@9ox.net wrote:
 Despite my error, I find the simplicity of setting up a Fossil repo
 (or better a set of repos) under cgi fantastic.
 
 +1
 
 @Richard: out of historical interest, what was the motivation behind adding 
 CGI support initially? (Despite CGI being archaic, it was _the_ feature which 
 caused my initial addiction to fossil.)
 
 
 Well, I suppose I don't consider CGI to be archaic.  CGI is simple, concise, 
 easy to administer, easy to implement (on both ends), efficient, and is 
 supported by all web-servers (except nginx).
 
 CGI grows out of the historic development model where you spin up a new 
 process to handle each specific task.  Unix was built around this model.  It 
 is an older model, but just because it is old doesn't make it bad.  There is 
 really quite a lot to recommend it:
 
 (1) No need to worry about resource leaks because the operating-system 
 automatically and efficiently reclaims resources when the short-lived working 
 process dies.
 
 (2) Programming is much simpler because you can almost always run 
 single-threaded and you can often get away with using global variables.
 
 (3) Unit testing and debugging is easier since the worker task is now an 
 independent process that can be run from a command-line prompt and/or in gdb 
 or valgrind.
 
 (4) Bugs in the application are well-contained.  One worker task might 
 segfault due to a bug, but other independent tasks continue happily running 
 without impact.
 
 (5) There are no background processes that an administrator needs to monitor 
 and keep running.  The worker tasks are launched on-demand.  Thus the 
 administrative overhead is reduced.
 
 I'm not sure why the one-process-per-task model has fallen out of favor.  One 
 cause might be a quest to squeeze every last ounce of performance out of 
 systems by avoiding the process creation and breakdown overhead.  Another 
 reason might be people growing up in a windows-oriented world where process 
 creation and breakdown is significantly more complex and costly compared to 
 unix where fork() and exit() are easy and cheap.
 
 I like things to have low administrative, development, and maintenance 
 overhead.  CGI fits that requirement nicely.  Other similar technologies 
 (FCGI or SCGI come first to mind) require a lot more effort to program, to 
 set up, and to maintain.  Those others might be slightly faster on a busy 
 site, but CGI is fast enough for most applications, especially for small 
 and light-weight applications.  For something like Fossil, FCGI/SCGI would be 
 no faster.  (FCGI/SCGI might well be much faster if your CGI script starts 
 with #!/usr/bin/perl or #!/usr/bin/php, but that is a function of the 
 start-up overhead of your scripting language, not of the interprocess 
 communication protocol.  Fossil, being native code, starts up very quickly 
 and so CGI startup time is minimized and the performance advantages of 
 FCGI/SCGI are lost in the noise of the added complexity.)
 
 The Fossil and SQLite websites spin up about 4 or 5 new worker processes per 
 second on a debian linux VM at Linode.com that is a 1/24th slice of an actual 
 server.  And yet the load average stays down around 5%.  People say Oh, you 
 could go so much faster using $COOL_NEW_TECHNOLOGY.  But I doubt it.  And 
 even if we could, with the load average holding steady at 5%, it isn't worth 
 the trouble.  Better to keep things simple and reliable.
 
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Re: [fossil-users] Did you know that Fossil could do...

2013-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:08:10AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
 Survey:  How many people know that in the web-based timeline for Fossil,
 you can click on any two nodes in the graph and get a diff between those
 two nodes?
 
 I think this is a very useful feature.  But I'm guessing that not many
 people know it exists.  Please confirm or refute my guess.
 
 And assuming I'm guessing correctly, do you have any suggestions on how I
 can get the word out about this and other useful but obscure features of
 Fossil?

Maybe this will help a little bit:

https://twitter.com/CopyfreeNews/status/339811545045417984

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Re: [fossil-users] Handling renames on import

2013-05-29 Thread Isaac Jurado
Replying Richard Hipp:
 On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Isaac Jurado dipto...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I'm testing Fossil by migrating a bunch of Mercurial repositories.
 Unlike Git, Mercurial tracks file renames.  However, in order to create
 a Fossil repository I have to follow the Mercurial - Git - Fossil
 path.

 On the first conversion I lose file copying/renaming information.  But
 the git fast-export command has the -M and -C switches to enable
 copy/rename detection heuristics.  Therefore, the last conversion step
 looks like:

 git fast-export -M -C --all | fossil import --git ../myrepo.fossil

 The good news is that the heuristics work, as Fossil fails with the
 following message:

 cannot handle R records, use --full-tree


 Do you have a git-fast-export output file that you can send me for
 testing purposes (perhaps via private email)?

Well, I've been digging around a bit.  After reading the git-fast-import
man page and doing some experiments, I've discovered the following:

The R  record has exactly the same syntax as the C  record.
Therefore, for each file that has been renamed there is a commit record
like:

R old_name new_name

If, apart from a rename, there were changes in the file contents, an
additional M  record is appended just below the rename.

I'm not really sure about the value and support of file rename in
Fossil for three reasons:

  1. There is no copy command
  2. The mv/rename command does not actually operate on the
 filesystem, but after the user has performed the operation
  3. This mail:
  http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/pipermail/fossil-users/2008-July/000325.html

I'm willing to carry on and try to fix this missing import piece, but
only if it is worth the trouble.

Does mv/rename improve the delta algorithm and/or file tracking in any
way?

Regards.

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Re: [fossil-users] JSON API docs

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote:

 What's the current canonical location of documentation for Fossil's JSON
 API?  Are there some handy howtos, tutorials,  examples, or other
 third-party sources of documentation for the JSON API?


Hi, Chad!

The current location of the API docs, updated as the code is updated:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fXViveNhDbiXgCuE7QDXQOKeFzf2qNUkBEgiUvoqFN4/view

(Requires a gmail account, if i'm not mistaken.)

i happily accept new contributors - just send me your gmail account name
and i'll gladly add you to the list.

Examples... i don't really have any hello world examples, but i do have
examples of its usage:

1) in the source tree: ajax/i-test/rhino-test.js uses the JSON API via the
Rhino JavaScript VM. You can run it using the Rhino VM by starting a local
fossil server on port 8080 and then: js rhino-test.js

2) http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/wikis/cpdo/

that is a fossil-backed wiki with a completely custom front-end implemented
using the JSON API. The code for that front-end is here:

http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fwiki/

Feedback on the JSON API and the docs is happily received, and don't
hesitate to ask questions about it. The docs are relatively comprehensive
(over 50 pages) but there might holes and there are certainly some APIs
which have very debatable interfaces - feel free to debate them.

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Re: [fossil-users] JSON API docs

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.comwrote:

 http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fwiki/


These demos of that code are good starting points to see what the JSON API
can do:

http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fwiki/editor/wiki-editor-goco.html
http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fwiki/editor/wiki-editor.html
http://fossil.wanderinghorse.net/repos/fwiki/editor/fijet-scratchpad.html

IIRC those pages demonstrate more or less all of the JSON API features. Be
sure to turn on your browser's dev tools (Firebug or Chrome Dev Tools or
whatever) and watch the JSON traffic.

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Re: [fossil-users] JSON API docs

2013-05-29 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 10:23:50PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
 On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:41 PM, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote:
 
  What's the current canonical location of documentation for Fossil's JSON
  API?  Are there some handy howtos, tutorials,  examples, or other
  third-party sources of documentation for the JSON API?
 
 
 The current location of the API docs, updated as the code is updated:
 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fXViveNhDbiXgCuE7QDXQOKeFzf2qNUkBEgiUvoqFN4/view

Thanks.  For some reason, I had the impression that might be out of date
and/or no longer the canonical location.  I think I had some vague
recollection of the docs being moved to a wiki somewhere from earlier
list traffic, but didn't find it in my email archives.  I guess I was
mistaken.

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Re: [fossil-users] Handling renames on import

2013-05-29 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Isaac Jurado dipto...@gmail.com wrote:


 Does mv/rename improve the delta algorithm and/or file tracking in any
 way?


Unclear.  I think it does, but I'm not 100% sure.

Deltas in Fossil are decoupled from the rest of the system.  There is no
fixed delta schedule.  You can create new, completely compatible versions
of Fossil that delta differently.  So it is certainly possible to create a
version of Fossil that takes advantage of mv/rename to improve delta
encoding performance.  But whether or not the current implementation does
so is unclear.  Probably best to determine that by experimentation.

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Re: [fossil-users] JSON API docs

2013-05-29 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Chad Perrin c...@apotheon.net wrote:

 and/or no longer the canonical location.  I think I had some vague
 recollection of the docs being moved to a wiki somewhere from earlier
 list traffic, but didn't find it in my email archives.  I guess I was
 mistaken.


No, not mistaken, just not up to date - at some point i started porting it
into a wiki, but a wiki's structure is forever (or a pain to change) and i
didn't find a structure i liked. The remnants of that effort are still
around, though, should the muse strike me to try it again.

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