Re: [fossil-users] fossil-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 46

2017-11-26 Thread David Mason
On 26 November 2017 at 16:52, Ron W  wrote:

> I think there needs to be some indication that there is more information.
> From my experience, an ellipses is a very common tool for this purpose - as
> long as they are visible.
>

I agree. I really think tooltips (titles) should be used as well as the
ellipsis.

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Re: [fossil-users] fossil-users Digest, Vol 118, Issue 46

2017-11-26 Thread Ron W
On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 7:00 AM, 
wrote:
>
> Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2017 09:22:08 +0100
> From: Stephan Beal 
> Subject: Re: [fossil-users] More timeline changes
>
> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Tony Papadimitriou 
> wrote:
>
> > The idea looks very good to me.  But the ellipses are indeed barely
> > visible.
> > How about replacing ... with [*] as a generic (foot)note mark?
> >
>
> LOL! i didn't even notice that the ellipsis were there. i recommend doing
> away with them entirely, an simply making "click a timeline entry to expand
> its details" a new documented feature.
>

I think there needs to be some indication that there is more information.
>From my experience, an ellipses is a very common tool for this purpose - as
long as they are visible.
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Re: [fossil-users] More timeline changes

2017-11-26 Thread j. van den hoff

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 23:51:23 +0100, Marc Simpson  wrote:


One other (potential) problem: without the hash prefix, descriptions
run together.
Example: http://www.sqlite.org/src/timeline, 2017-11-24. The graph
nodes are flushed to the left, so descriptions appear as:
 Add the "^" syntax from fts3/4 to fts5. ...
  Enhance the configure script to detect zLib. ...
It's not immediately clear that these are separate commits given the
amount of horizontal space; adding a bit more vertical padding or
boxing descriptions (perhaps with alternating colours) might help?


+1

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Re: [fossil-users] More timeline changes

2017-11-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:06 PM, Tony Papadimitriou  wrote:

> The idea looks very good to me.  But the ellipses are indeed barely
> visible.
> How about replacing ... with [*] as a generic (foot)note mark?
>

LOL! i didn't even notice that the ellipsis were there. i recommend doing
away with them entirely, an simply making "click a timeline entry to expand
its details" a new documented feature.

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Re: [fossil-users] More timeline changes

2017-11-26 Thread Stephan Beal
On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 2:47 PM, Richard Hipp  wrote:

> In the latest code on https://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil/timeline and
> at https://sqlite.org/srcx/timeline has a "Declutter" button on the
> sub-menu bar to simplify the screen.  In the simplified timeline,
> there is a "Details" button to get all the details back again.
>

i was about to suggest that clicking on a single entry declutter only that
entry, but it seems you already did that :).

(2) Decluttered should be the default.  Currently Details is the
> default.  I spent a lot of time experimenting last night, and what I
> found myself doing every time I encountered a timeline was immediately
> pressing the "Declutter" button to get a high-level overview of the
> graph, then clicking on "Details" if I wanted to see more.  From that
> experience, I think coming up in Decluttered mode would be a much
> better approach.
>

"This should be the default" was my first impression.


> ...decluttered mode (showing only the check-in comment for each entry)
> but with ellipses or some other small icon at the end of each comment
> that you can click on to expand the details.
>

i like the way it works now, that you simply click anywhere on the row.
Granted, it's possibly not intuitive without some visual indicator to click
on ("..."), but it's visually elegant.

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Re: [fossil-users] Interface improvement ideas from GitHub

2017-11-26 Thread Stephan Beal
A short sidebar for those unfamiliar with this particular quirk of JS:

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:49 PM, David Mason  wrote:

> node.setAttribute('title','Click to '+(expand || 'expand'));
>

In JS the || operators evaluates to the first value of its left/right sides
which itself evaluates to true in a "boolean context". i.e.:

2 || 3

in almost every other language that evaluates to true, whereas in JS it
evaluates to 2. Likewise (0 || 7) evaluates to 7.

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