[fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
Hello This is the first time I'm trying Fossil and I'm using the Windows version (d8221b9863 2011-05-12). I will be the only user, and the repository will be located on the same Windows host where the repository is saved. There are a few of questions to which I found no answer in the wiki: 1. Should the repository be located at the very top of the directory tree where files will be added and commited? For instance, if the files I'll be adding/committing live below C:\, should the repository be C:\myrepo, or is it OK to locate it anywhere on the hard drive, eg. D:\whatever\lmyrepo? 2. Is it OK to have spaces in the path leading to the repo and the files, eg. C:\This is a directory\myrepo, and D:\This is where my files are\some file.txt? 3. Is it possible _not_ to be prompted for a comment when committing a file? I'd just like to type fossil commit, and be done with it. 4. Is it possible to open the repository in a DOS box (C:\fossil.exe open c:\myrepo), and add/commit from a Windows application such as a text editor? When I tried this, I got this error: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout I guess all the commands should be issued within the DOS box. Thank you. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On May 25, 2011, at 13:29 , Gilles wrote: 1. Should the repository be located at the very top of the directory tree where files will be added and commited? No. I'd keep it somewhere else. 2. Is it OK to have spaces in the path leading to the repo and the files, eg. C:\This is a directory\myrepo, and D:\This is where my files are\some file.txt? Yes, but it's mighty inconvenient. But Fossil does not create any problems with that. 3. Is it possible _not_ to be prompted for a comment when committing a file? I'd just like to type fossil commit, and be done with it. It's a bad idea. But I guess that adding something like -m ' ' to the commit command should do the trick. 4. Is it possible to open the repository in a DOS box (C:\fossil.exe open c:\myrepo), and add/commit from a Windows application such as a text editor? When I tried this, I got this error: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout Because you first need to open a repo, look into fossil help open. I guess all the commands should be issued within the DOS box. Well, anyways you need something that's able to issue the commands. You can always try one of the GUI programs. Kind regards, Remigiusz Modrzejewski ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On 5/25/2011 7:29 AM, Gilles wrote: 1. Should the repository be located at the very top of the directory tree where files will be added and commited? For instance, if the files I'll be adding/committing live below C:\, should the repository be C:\myrepo, or is it OK to locate it anywhere on the hard drive, eg. D:\whatever\lmyrepo? It doesn't matter what drive or folder you put the repo database in, except that you don't want to put it inside your working copy. E.g., if your project is in c:\myproj, the only place your repo shouldn't be is in c:\myproj. Also, you want to avoid storing the repo on a network drive most of the time. 2. Is it OK to have spaces in the path leading to the repo and the files, eg. C:\This is a directory\myrepo, and D:\This is where my files are\some file.txt? Yeah, it's cool. 3. Is it possible _not_ to be prompted for a comment when committing a file? I'd just like to type fossil commit, and be done with it. Every commit has to have a comment, but you can specify it on the command line like this: fossil commit -m my comment 4. Is it possible to open the repository in a DOS box (C:\fossil.exe open c:\myrepo), and add/commit from a Windows application such as a text editor? When I tried this, I got this error: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout I don't really understand what you're trying to do there. At the very beginning of a project, do something like this: fossil new c:\fossil-repos\myproj.fossil cd c:\myproj fossil open c:\fossil-repos\myproj.fossil There is now a _FOSSIL_ file in c:\myproj and nothing else unless you had some files there already. (And it's ok if you did!) You won't need to do the above steps again until you start a new project (or a few other things, but relax for now). 'fossil open' is not a daily activity. Now, say you have some work you want to commit. Assuming you're still in c:\myproj... fossil add . to add all the not-yet-checked-in files here to your commit or... fossil add some-file some-other-file Then... fossil status Make sure that the output matches the branch you thought you were on and shows the files you thought you changed. (Not that fossil will ever be wrong about this, but that you might be.) fossil commit -m Lovely work. Wahoo! So I have no idea what you mean about adding or committing from a test editor. If you have a text editor that will give you a command prompt inside it, then I would expect fossil to work fine so long as you first cd to the project directory. -- Joshua Paine LetterBlock: Web Applications Built With Joy http://letterblock.com/ 301-576-1920 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 13:29:58 +0200, Gilles wrote: Hello This is the first time I'm trying Fossil and I'm using the Windows version (d8221b9863 2011-05-12). I will be the only user, and the repository will be located on the same Windows host where the repository is saved. There are a few of questions to which I found no answer in the wiki: 1. Should the repository be located at the very top of the directory tree where files will be added and commited? For instance, if the files I'll be adding/committing live below C:\, should the repository be C:\myrepo, or is it OK to locate it anywhere on the hard drive, eg. D:\whatever\lmyrepo? The repository should not be in the directory were you work! e.g mkdir c:\src\myproject fossil new c:\src\gilles.fossil cd c:\src\myproject fossil open ../gilles.fossil 2. Is it OK to have spaces in the path leading to the repo and the files, eg. C:\This is a directory\myrepo, and D:\This is where my files are\some file.txt? The directories leading up to your repository or your check-out it doesn't matter much But the file names and directories in you repo/checkout it is not recommended but possible. You need to add around the name. You might get into trouble when issuing fossil add * 3. Is it possible _not_ to be prompted for a comment when committing a file? I'd just like to type fossil commit, and be done with it. fossil commit -m nocomment not recommend though 4. Is it possible to open the repository in a DOS box (C:\fossil.exe open c:\myrepo), and add/commit from a Windows application such as a text editor? When I tried this, I got this error: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout The editor you used wasn't started in that directory. open a dos box and cd into c:\src\myproject start your editor I guess all the commands should be issued within the DOS box. Depends if I would be using the editor vim I could issue :cd c:\myproject (make sure I'm in the checkout directory) :!c:\fossil.exe commit -m Nocomment Thank you. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- Rene ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: Hello This is the first time I'm trying Fossil and I'm using the Windows version (d8221b9863 2011-05-12). I will be the only user, and the repository will be located on the same Windows host where the repository is saved. There are a few of questions to which I found no answer in the wiki: 1. Should the repository be located at the very top of the directory tree where files will be added and commited? For instance, if the files I'll be adding/committing live below C:\, should the repository be C:\myrepo, or is it OK to locate it anywhere on the hard drive, eg. D:\whatever\lmyrepo? The repo can be anywhere on your hard-drive. I tend to create a single folder some place and put all of my repos there. (I typically have dozens on any one machine.) That helps to keep things organized, but is certainly not required. 2. Is it OK to have spaces in the path leading to the repo and the files, eg. C:\This is a directory\myrepo, and D:\This is where my files are\some file.txt? Yes. 3. Is it possible _not_ to be prompted for a comment when committing a file? I'd just like to type fossil commit, and be done with it. Use the -m command-line option to commit to enter your comment on the command-line. Fossil requires a comment of some kind. You *should* enter a reasonable comment on every commit. You'll thank yourself years later when you are going back trying to figure out what you did. When I first started writing SQLite back in 2000, I was in the habit of making every check-in comment a smiley. See http://localhost:591/sqlite/timeline?c=2000-01-01 for example. That was a bad idea. Do not repeat my mistake. 4. Is it possible to open the repository in a DOS box (C:\fossil.exe open c:\myrepo), and add/commit from a Windows application such as a text editor? When I tried this, I got this error: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout The working directory of the process must be in the checkout. A unix program will normally preserve your working directory. But windows is different. If you want the command to work, you'll have to find a way to make your working directory fall somewhere within your checkout. I guess all the commands should be issued within the DOS box. Thank you. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: file to a repository after opening it in a DOS box, but I get the following error when I try to commit: = C:/SOMEDIR/myfile.txt contains CR/NL line endings; commit anyhow (yes/no/all)? C:\fossil.exe: Abandoning commit due to CR+NL line endings in C:/SOMEDIR/myfile.txt = That's not an error, but a warning. Simply tap aENTER and ignore it. You're on Windows, so files will tend to use CRNL endings. On Unix systems CRNL combinations are normally undesireable, and can in fact break certain file types (e.g. shell scripts, especially if the shebang line ends with a \r). Google didn't return any document about that error: Is there a way to provide Fossil with an answer to that question, so as not to be prompted? Google knows everything except perhaps what i have in my fridge (and he can guess that, given my personality profile). It's mostly a matter for formulating the question (which of course isn't always obvious when one isn't familiar with the topic): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newline -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 09:26:25 -0400, Tomek Kott tkott.s...@gmail.com wrote: You can specify whether to ignore the line endings (they're different for win vs. linux vs. osx, and windows does things oddly...I guess). Open up the ui (fossil ui in an open repository) and then go to the admin, then settings. Find the crnl-glob setting, and set it to *. This will ignore all windows CR/NL bad line endings. I don't know how horribly horrible this is for others, but I have that as a default setting on my computer (win7). Thanks, that did it. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 13:29:58 +0200, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: This is the first time I'm trying Fossil and I'm using the Windows version (d8221b9863 2011-05-12). I noticed something else: If my work directory, ie. where files from the repository are checked out, is on the C partition, Fossil won't let me add a file that is located on another partition. For instance, with the repository file at the root of C:\ (so I can add any file below that, even in sub-directories), trying to add D:\test.txt triggers the error message: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout. Is there a work-around, or does a repository only accept files located on the drive of work directory, and anywhere below it in the tree? Thank you. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: I noticed something else: If my work directory, ie. where files from the repository are checked out, is on the C partition, Fossil won't let me add a file that is located on another partition. Fossil requires all files in a given repo to share a common parent directory. BTW: that's not just fossil. i don't know of any SCM which allows one to add arbitrary paths to an arbitrary repository. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 16:06:42 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Fossil requires all files in a given repo to share a common parent directory. BTW: that's not just fossil. i don't know of any SCM which allows one to add arbitrary paths to an arbitrary repository. Thanks for the confirmation. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On 5/25/2011 9:59 AM, Gilles wrote: For instance, with the repository file at the root of C:\ (so I can add any file below that, even in sub-directories), trying to add D:\test.txt triggers the error message: C:\fossil.exe: not within an open checkout. This is correct behavior. If you took your repo and opened it on another computer, either in the c:\ root or in a folder, fossil could restore all the files in exactly the same relation to each other as you had them. They might have a different root or be on a completely different drive, but if you had a file in \foo that referred to ..\bar\otherfile, the reference would still work. But what if you were allowed to add d:\test.txt? What's fossil supposed to do when you open that repo again somewhere else? I don't have a D: drive. Lots of computers have a DVD drive under D:. And even if I have a D: drive, what if I open your repo twice in two different folders on my system? (E.g., assuming it's software, to keep one behaving normally and make my weird changes in the other copy to compare.) So, yeah, all your repo files have to have a common root. It's by design and can't be worked around except by moving files into a common root. (And check out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point) And you should really think about your entire-c-drive-is-my-working-copy thing. Maybe it makes sense for your use case, but it's at least a very unusual use of fossil. -- Joshua Paine LetterBlock: Web Applications Built With Joy http://letterblock.com/ 301-576-1920 ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 10:30:37 -0400, Joshua Paine jos...@letterblock.com wrote: This is correct behavior. Yes, makes perfect sense. And you should really think about your entire-c-drive-is-my-working-copy thing. Maybe it makes sense for your use case, but it's at least a very unusual use of fossil. I know it's unusual, but I only wanted a tiny SCM because the Windows editor doesn't support versioning internally. It's just so I can try things on small scripts and be able to cancel if they didn't work. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Gilles gilles.gana...@free.fr wrote: I know it's unusual Just don't do: fossil add . and if you do try it, just remember that you were warned. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] [newbie] Can't get started
On Wed, 25 May 2011 16:37:26 +0200, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote: Just don't do: fossil add . and if you do try it, just remember that you were warned. I will promptly forget what I just read ;-) ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
