Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-15 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 11:32:41AM +, Pietro Cerutti wrote:
> 
> Oh so it looks they don't offer proper mailing lists (the ones people 
> can subscribe and reply to) but only newsletters, which they call 
> mailing lists, so sorry for the noise and my confusion.

I also worked on a project for a MailChip client at one point and the
business practices around MailChimp turned out to be somewhat suspect in
terms of providing consistent service.  It handled mass email management
fine, but it did some rather weird stuff with how it changed its
services and notification of changes and so on that left me with a bad
taste in my mouth.

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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-15 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On Jun 15 2018, 07:51 UTC, Pietro Cerutti  wrote:

On Jun 14 2018, 13:05 UTC, Richard Hipp  wrote:

On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp  wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to
robot harassment.  I am working to come up with a fix or an
alternative now


Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting
subscriptions.  I have implemented measures to block the subscription
robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future
mischief.

I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to
implement and test a better log-term solution.  The current setup will
change.  But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at
least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the
improved solution proceeds.


Not sure whether (any of) you follow crypto-gram. This just came out 
today.  I'd say, if it's good enough for him...


"Important: Crypto-Gram Is Moving to MailChimp"
https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/2018/0615.html#1


Oh so it looks they don't offer proper mailing lists (the ones people 
can subscribe and reply to) but only newsletters, which they call 
mailing lists, so sorry for the noise and my confusion.


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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-15 Thread Pietro Cerutti

On Jun 14 2018, 13:05 UTC, Richard Hipp  wrote:

On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp  wrote:

Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to
robot harassment.  I am working to come up with a fix or an
alternative now


Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting
subscriptions.  I have implemented measures to block the subscription
robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future
mischief.

I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to
implement and test a better log-term solution.  The current setup will
change.  But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at
least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the
improved solution proceeds.


Not sure whether (any of) you follow crypto-gram. This just came out 
today.  I'd say, if it's good enough for him...


"Important: Crypto-Gram Is Moving to MailChimp"
https://www.schneier.com/crypto-gram/archives/2018/0615.html#1

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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/14/18, Richard Hipp  wrote:
> On 6/14/18, Chad Perrin  wrote:
>>
>> It looks like the mailing list page itself is still down for this list.
>>
>>
>> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
>
> It was working earlier today.  We've had some sign-ups.  And I haven't
> changed anything.  Trouble-shooting now

Should be working again now.

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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-14 Thread roarde
I just signed up. The web interface for sign-ups didn't work; displayed an 
error message. I used the mail interface.

Received TWO confirmation requests, replied to one of them. Got "waiting for 
moderator approval", then "Welcome" along with regular list mail shortly after.

On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:56:24 -0400
Richard Hipp  wrote:

> On 6/14/18, Chad Perrin  wrote:
> >
> > It looks like the mailing list page itself is still down for this list.
> >
> > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
> 
> It was working earlier today.  We've had some sign-ups.  And I haven't
> changed anything.  Trouble-shooting now
> 
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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/14/18, Chad Perrin  wrote:
>
> It looks like the mailing list page itself is still down for this list.
>
> http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

It was working earlier today.  We've had some sign-ups.  And I haven't
changed anything.  Trouble-shooting now

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Re: [fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-14 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 09:05:14AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote:
> On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp  wrote:
> > Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to
> > robot harassment.  I am working to come up with a fix or an
> > alternative now
> 
> Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting
> subscriptions.  I have implemented measures to block the subscription
> robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future
> mischief.
> 
> I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to
> implement and test a better log-term solution.  The current setup will
> change.  But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at
> least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the
> improved solution proceeds.

It looks like the mailing list page itself is still down for this list.

http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users

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[fossil-users] Back on-line. Was: Mailing list shutting down...

2018-06-14 Thread Richard Hipp
On 6/13/18, Richard Hipp  wrote:
> Unfortunately, I'm going to need to shut down this mailing list due to
> robot harassment.  I am working to come up with a fix or an
> alternative now

Mailing lists are now back on-line and once again accepting
subscriptions.  I have implemented measures to block the subscription
robots and to better log subscription activity to better detect future
mischief.

I consider this to be a stop-gap measure that will buy me some time to
implement and test a better log-term solution.  The current setup will
change.  But the temporary measure I implemented this morning do at
least get us back to a functional mailing list while work on the
improved solution proceeds.
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d...@sqlite.org
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