Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-15 Thread Mark Janssen
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have the same annoyance with scrape 'n paste. Would adding a space
 between the [ or ] and the hex string alleviate the annoyance but still
 provide the visual delineation?


How about taking a different approach and have fossil accept [..] as a
synonym to . ? Or in other words let fossil strip any brackets when
interpreting an SHA id.

Mark
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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Goth
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On 5/15/2014 4:46 AM, Mark Janssen wrote:
 How about taking a different approach and have fossil accept
 [..] as a synonym to . ? Or in other words let fossil strip
 any brackets when interpreting an SHA id.

Perhaps, but brackets are interpreted by the shell, so Fossil isn't
the only problem.  I think it's simplest to change the HTML.  I'd do
it myself and put it on a branch, but I have to concentrate on paid
work right this moment.  Hopefully I'll get to it this weekend, if no
one beats me to it.

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[fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Andy Goth
I'd like for the [bracket] characters to not be part of the a.../a 
links in Fossil web pages, at least when the link text is an artifact 
ID.  This change would make it easier to highlight just the artifact ID 
and omit the brackets so that I can paste it elsewhere without having to 
then delete the brackets manually.  Most web browsers make it very hard 
to start highlighting in the middle of link text, as they choose to 
interpret that as dragging an object.


Any thoughts?

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 8:38 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 elsewhere without having to then delete the brackets manually.  Most web
 browsers make it very hard to start highlighting in the middle of link
 text, as they choose to interpret that as dragging an object.

 Any thoughts?


i think it just might look nicer, too. i'm looking at a timeline now and
imagining what it would look like if the brackets we not part of the
link... yeah, i can see that.

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Joseph Prostko
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like for the [bracket] characters to not be part of the a.../a links
 in Fossil web pages, at least when the link text is an artifact ID.  This
 change would make it easier to highlight just the artifact ID and omit the
 brackets so that I can paste it elsewhere without having to then delete the
 brackets manually.  Most web browsers make it very hard to start
 highlighting in the middle of link text, as they choose to interpret that as
 dragging an object.

I've encountered the problem you mentioned about highlighting, but
admit I'm not sure if I'd like to see the brackets go away.  I almost
think it would still look cleaner with them present.  That said, I'd
love if somebody could assemble a side-by-side image showing the
difference, as I admit my curiosity is piqued as to how it would
actually look.  :)

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread B Harder
Andy, to be clear, are you suggesting:

  a) blah blah [a href=somethingcafebabe/a] blah blah blah

  b) blah blah a href=somethingcafebabe/a blah blah blah

?

-bch


On 5/14/14, Joseph Prostko joe.pros...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd like for the [bracket] characters to not be part of the a.../a
 links
 in Fossil web pages, at least when the link text is an artifact ID.  This
 change would make it easier to highlight just the artifact ID and omit
 the
 brackets so that I can paste it elsewhere without having to then delete
 the
 brackets manually.  Most web browsers make it very hard to start
 highlighting in the middle of link text, as they choose to interpret that
 as
 dragging an object.

 I've encountered the problem you mentioned about highlighting, but
 admit I'm not sure if I'd like to see the brackets go away.  I almost
 think it would still look cleaner with them present.  That said, I'd
 love if somebody could assemble a side-by-side image showing the
 difference, as I admit my curiosity is piqued as to how it would
 actually look.  :)

 - joe
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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, to be clear, are you suggesting:

   a) blah blah [a href=somethingcafebabe/a] blah blah blah


My comments assumed this interpretation. To my eyes that looks a tiny bit
cleaner, but i won't argue strongly one way or the other.

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread B Harder
That's what I was imagining/hoping too, but I'm not sure if that was
original proposal. I like the way the [ ] set off the string we
care about, but then I wondered if the ease of select/copy was because
the brackets were completely eliminated.

-bch


On 5/14/14, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, to be clear, are you suggesting:

   a) blah blah [a href=somethingcafebabe/a] blah blah blah


 My comments assumed this interpretation. To my eyes that looks a tiny bit
 cleaner, but i won't argue strongly one way or the other.

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 Wolf



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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Joel Bruick

Stephan Beal wrote:
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com 
mailto:brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:


Andy, to be clear, are you suggesting:

  a) blah blah [a href=somethingcafebabe/a] blah blah blah


My comments assumed this interpretation. To my eyes that looks a tiny 
bit cleaner, but i won't argue strongly one way or the other.


This is also how I interpreted it, and also what I support doing. 
Copy/pasting artifact IDs has annoyed me before, as well.
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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Matt Welland
I have the same annoyance with scrape 'n paste. Would adding a space
between the [ or ] and the hex string alleviate the annoyance but still
provide the visual delineation?



On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Joel Bruick j...@joelface.com wrote:

 Stephan Beal wrote:

 On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:22 PM, B Harder brad.har...@gmail.com wrote:

 Andy, to be clear, are you suggesting:

   a) blah blah [a href=somethingcafebabe/a] blah blah blah


 My comments assumed this interpretation. To my eyes that looks a tiny bit
 cleaner, but i won't argue strongly one way or the other.


 This is also how I interpreted it, and also what I support doing.
 Copy/pasting artifact IDs has annoyed me before, as well.

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Andy Bradford
Thus said Matt Welland on Wed, 14 May 2014 16:08:50 -0700:

 I have the  same annoyance with scrape 'n paste.  Would adding a space
 between the [ or ] and  the hex string alleviate the annoyance but
 still provide the visual delineation?

I think  the problem isn't  the amount of space  between the []  and the
UUID, but rather that most browsers cannot handle copy selection of text
that is  part of  an anchor  tag. Adding space  wouldn't make  it easier
because the  space would still be  part of the ``link.''  Placing the []
outside of the a  anchor tag is what I believe is  proposed to make it
easier to copy/paste.

Honestly, I'm surprised  that modern browser makers  haven't figured out
that copy selection of  just a portion of the anchor  text is actually a
desirable feature!

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Andy Goth
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On 5/14/2014 2:05 PM, Joseph Prostko wrote:
 I've encountered the problem you mentioned about highlighting, but 
 admit I'm not sure if I'd like to see the brackets go away.

I didn't suggest removing them from the display, only making them be
outside of the clickable link.

Current : a href=whatever[foo]/a
Proposed: [a href=whateverfoo/a]

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Joseph Prostko
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Andy Goth andrew.m.g...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5/14/2014 2:05 PM, Joseph Prostko wrote:
 I've encountered the problem you mentioned about highlighting, but
 admit I'm not sure if I'd like to see the brackets go away.

 I didn't suggest removing them from the display, only making them be
 outside of the clickable link.

 Current : a href=whatever[foo]/a
 Proposed: [a href=whateverfoo/a]

Indeed, I admit I got confused by Stephan's initial response, which
actually said exactly what you suggested initially.  I might have to
work on my reading comprehension skills, as I think it started a
cascade confusing everyone else.

I definitely like your suggestion and wouldn't mind it being
suggested.  In fact, I think I would prefer it.

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Re: [fossil-users] Excluding [brackets] from a.../a links

2014-05-14 Thread Joseph Prostko
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Joseph Prostko joe.pros...@gmail.com wrote:

 suggested.  In fact, I think I would prefer it.

suggested = implemented

I think I better head to sleep before I type anything else nonsensical
today.  I was going to come up with a patch for this, but I think I
better call it a night before I cause any more trouble.  :)

- joe
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